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Anyone know if it would be illegal for us to take photos at Liverpool games and post them on the site?
I'll get in contact with the LFC if no one knows for certain.
Thanks :)
IanTheRed
26-07-06, 09:18 AM
Anyone know if it would be illegal for us to take photos at Liverpool games and post them on the site?
I'll get in contact with the LFC if no one knows for certain.
Thanks :)
I remember reading the back of the match ticket a few years ago (don't ask...boring bus journey!) and it said that the use of photographic equipment was illegal during the game. This was back a few years ago, so not sure what the current regulation is. Don't the Premier League own the image rights?
Bah.... I knew it would be somethign like that!
IanTheRed
26-07-06, 09:31 AM
They didn't catch me. :p
Me neither, I've got pictures and a video of YNWA on my phone. I did a quick search on t'internet and several forums are reporting of heavy handed stewardship at grounds last season towards people taking photos.
They can't physically stop everyone taking them, but I wouldn't say that its legal to furthermore post them on this site.
Six_Crazy_Minutes
26-07-06, 11:05 AM
I am under the impression the imaging rights are for video capture and not still capture.
Basically the "live" rights are owned by current Sky contract although still cameras (eg mobile phone cameras) are used quite frequently at Anfield.
It is basically preventing people streaming/broadcasting live football.
hang ona second, the amount of games ive asked a steward to step aside so i could get a better picture and there has been no problem.
im sure its more to do with doing it for commercial purposes.
there wouldnt be any problem putting pics on here as long as you werent selling them.
would be a good idea for a new forum actually, people can send in there pics of matches this season
I think I'll get in contact with LFC,
yeah it would be good to have pics from the match, I'm hoping to buy a nice DSLR camera soon so should get some spectauclar shots from it.
joshyorkshire
26-07-06, 03:49 PM
Get a nikon D70s or D50! i have a D70s and it's amazing. Nikon lenses and sensor are better than canon! There are some good deal's on D50's at the mo...and i know of an excellent review site.
There was a lad at the car show on sat with a Nikon, he's got some pretty snazzy snaps, and I was impressed with the speed at which it takes pics....
Click, click, click... not like my current camera... pause.... button... another pause.... eventually click... pause.....
joshyorkshire
26-07-06, 03:55 PM
yeah you have to be careful with shutter lag on the pocket size one's but the dslr's really don't have that problem. You get some amazing shots due to sensor size and lenses. Me mate recently bought a d50 with 2 lenses, a low pro bag and a gig card for 550 squids at curries digital. i am going to step up to the big boys soon and buy a d200
don't worry about it, everybody's doing it so it cant be illegal, and even if it is...
... i wont tell, i promise:shake:
The Red Cardinal
26-07-06, 05:11 PM
Watch any game on Sky TV and see the hundreds/thousands of flashes from cameras at kick off... would suggest any prohibition is not enforced that heavily...
Do it!
SouthAfricaRed
26-07-06, 07:12 PM
I think I'll get in contact with LFC,
yeah it would be good to have pics from the match, I'm hoping to buy a nice DSLR camera soon so should get some spectauclar shots from it.
Would be a great addition. Nice quality Pics. I cant see a problem as long as you dont sell them :shake:
Red_Al_77
26-07-06, 08:02 PM
Anyone know if it would be illegal for us to take photos at Liverpool games and post them on the site?
I'll get in contact with the LFC if no one knows for certain.
Thanks :)
Yes it is illegal.
Red_Al_77
26-07-06, 08:06 PM
All mid-game
MrMichael
26-07-06, 09:09 PM
Al, couple of ones then ( I know nothing about this btw, I'm asking out of curiosity, nothing more)
1) What about crowd/stadium shots, flags etc?
2) It's technically illegal for anyone to put up in-game shots anywhere on t'net for others to view, whether stills or video etc, without a licence?
3) Does LFc have rights to certain external images like the Shankly gates etc?
leftpeg
26-07-06, 09:19 PM
While it may not be sanctioned, I can't imagine that LFC or any other entity such as the Premier League or UEFA would care about personal pictures posted on a non-commercial forum such as this. Suing little guys like us probably wouldn't make for very positive press for them.
In cases where they take serious offense, they would probably just ask for offending material to be taken down.
Red_Al_77
26-07-06, 09:28 PM
Al, couple of ones then ( I know nothing about this btw, I'm asking out of curiosity, nothing more)
1) What about crowd/stadium shots, flags etc?
2) It's technically illegal for anyone to put up in-game shots anywhere on t'net for others to view, whether stills or video etc, without a licence?
3) Does LFc have rights to certain external images like the Shankly gates etc?
1/ Fine no problem
2/ yes illegal
3/ No they have no copyright on those.
Good site to visit mate is www.zoopus.com/?page_id=13
Red_Al_77
26-07-06, 09:29 PM
While it may not be sanctioned, I can't imagine that LFC or any other entity such as the Premier League or UEFA would care about personal pictures posted on a non-commercial forum such as this. Suing little guys like us probably wouldn't make for very positive press for them.
In cases where they take serious offense, they would probably just ask for offending material to be taken down.
Sorry but they do. Netresult act on their behalf and have taken out loads of fansites over this and fixture lists.
Red_Al_77
26-07-06, 09:34 PM
.....and another thing. You can have fixtures as part of TV schedules. If you post the next PL fixture it has to be with introductory text (ala YNWA site). I spoke to Netresult re all this and they aren't too bothered on this particular point but are hot on just plain old fixtures. They were the ones who advised me re TV schedules.
leftpeg
26-07-06, 10:48 PM
Sorry but they do. Netresult act on their behalf and have taken out loads of fansites over this and fixture lists.
Really? Even over pics from people's mobiles and the like? That sounds a bit harsh, but I stand corrected. Cheers.
MrMichael
27-07-06, 04:05 AM
Thanks for that Al :handshake:
I love this bit from that link... "As an aside, much of the licensing of live action is worded to protect ‘digital and broadcast’ rights, so you could legitimately set up an Easel, paint a watercolour of a goal incident, and stick this on a website. I think you’d just about get away with this.".... best get out your crayons match goers :D
So it'd be crowd/flags/external stadium shots could be posted Paul.
The stuff about fixture lists and even textual match feeds is interesting, shows how far footy as gone away from the regular fans I guess. The action stuff is predictable but leads to more questions, and I'm thinking more about utube and the like than a certain other LFC website; is their legal standpoint that they are not responsible for the content? Surely its uploaded to their servers though?
IanTheRed
27-07-06, 08:47 AM
[QUOTE=Red_Al_77]All mid-game
Red_Al_77
27-07-06, 09:00 AM
[QUOTE=MrMichael]Thanks for that Al :handshake:
I love this bit from that link... "As an aside, much of the licensing of live action is worded to protect
Al.............is there anything you don`t know fcuk all about
Red_Al_77
27-07-06, 09:09 AM
I'm a bit unsighted on camping :crackoff:
I'm a bit unsighted on camping :crackoff:
:crackoff: :crackoff:
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