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Jaco_Pastorious
03-01-07, 06:20 PM
Just a quick poll to see who thinks the winner will be. Might be an idea before any upcoming big fights.

Hatton is defo the favourite, with experience on his side and a huge amount of ability and heart, but I have a sneaky feeling that Juan may upset the applecart in this one, so I am going for Juan to win in 11 rounds, in a barnstorming fight.

kurtangle01
03-01-07, 06:23 PM
Hatton will get Urango out of there by the tenth. I've probably not seen enough of Urango to make that assesment but I just have a feeling that Hatton will be to much for him.

I think Ricky has the Castillo fight in his sights and will do all it takes to make sure that fight happens.

Jaco_Pastorious
03-01-07, 06:28 PM
Hatton will get Urango out of there by the tenth. I've probably not seen enough of Urango to make that assesment but I just have a feeling that Hatton will be to much for him.

I think Ricky has the Castillo fight in his sights and will do all it takes to make sure that fight happens.


Rickey has to be the favourite, there are very few fighters out there that Hatton would be a genuine underdog to, imho. I was listening to Hatton being interviewed of late, and he seems to be focusing beyond this fight already, he kept talking about his options for fights after this one, and was talking about Castillo and Mayweather. I'm a firm believer in leaving the talk about future fights until after the one you have in front of you.

I have seen a lot of Urango down the years, and really fancy his chances of getting a shock win or a draw in this one.

I think conditioning will be the decider in this one, Urango will be in tip top condition for this one, it boils down to how Rickey has prepared himself imo.

Steve
03-01-07, 06:28 PM
I've not seen anything of Urango so I'm going to be patriotic and say Hatton.

kurtangle01
03-01-07, 06:34 PM
Rickey has to be the favourite, there are very few fighters out there that Hatton would be a genuine underdog against imho. I was listening to Hatton being interviewed of late, and he seems to be focusing beyond this fight already, he kept talking about his options for fights after this one, and was talking about Castillo and Mayweather. I'm a firm believer in leaving the talk about future fights until after the one you have in front of you.

I have seen a lot of Urango down the years, and really fancy his chances of getting a shock win or a draw in this one.

I think conditioning will be the decider in this one, Urango will be in tip top condition for this one, it boils down to how Rickey has prepared himself imo.


Hatton looks in great shape at the moment. He also looks very focused. As for his comments about future fights, I think that shows how much Ricky and his team rate Urango. i.e. not much. That could prove to be very dangerous but I still think that we'll see the real Ricky Hatton on the 20th and not the one we saw against Luis Collazo.

If Hatton boxes and doesn't steam forward like he has in his last 2 fights then I honestly think that he'll wear this guy down and get the stoppage. Or should I say "That's what I hope!!"

Jaco_Pastorious
03-01-07, 06:41 PM
Hatton looks in great shape at the moment. He also looks very focused. As for his comments about future fights, I think that shows how much Ricky and his team rate Urango. i.e. not much. That could prove to be very dangerous but I still think that we'll see the real Ricky Hatton on the 20th and not the one we saw against Luis Collazo.

If Hatton boxes and doesn't steam forward like he has in his last 2 fights then I honestly think that he'll wear this guy down and get the stoppage.



A focused Hatton has few peers in his division to be honest. If he wins, and the odds are favouring him to do so without too much trouble, it would be a very good win im my opinion, and one that the general public would not give him enough credit for, as Juan is a genuine live opponent.

I just have a little voice saying that Juan might nick it, a little niggling feeling that is telling me the bookies have their odds badly wrong for this fight.

Juan can box and he can fight, so regardless of what mindset they approach this fight with, I think it will be a humdinger. If both come to box, then we will get a technical treat, if one comes to fight and the other to box, there will be a nice contrast of styles, but if both come to fight, we could have a fight that matches Ward-Gatti 1 on our hands.

Howard_lfc
03-01-07, 09:36 PM
I've not seen anything of Urango so I'm going to be patriotic and say Hatton.

erm......what he said.

And hey jaco - ppl aint gonna visit my thread any more ya bastad. :grr:

:)

bazza76
04-01-07, 10:45 AM
Rickey has to be the favourite, there are very few fighters out there that Hatton would be a genuine underdog to, imho. I was listening to Hatton being interviewed of late, and he seems to be focusing beyond this fight already, he kept talking about his options for fights after this one, and was talking about Castillo and Mayweather. I'm a firm believer in leaving the talk about future fights until after the one you have in front of you.

I have seen a lot of Urango down the years, and really fancy his chances of getting a shock win or a draw in this one.

I think conditioning will be the decider in this one, Urango will be in tip top condition for this one, it boils down to how Rickey has prepared himself imo.
IMO Ricky looking past this fight is not a good thing, he needs to be totally focused on this fight only. Just ask Rafa.

Jaco_Pastorious
18-01-07, 04:13 PM
Ok at last count it is 5 to one in favour of Hatton. Any last minute changes in people's predictions? Any new predictions to be added?


I'm sticking with Urango to surprise a lot of people with how good he is. And I am still giving big kudos to Hatton for making this fight happen. Been impressed with the fighters that he is choosing to meet, especially when he could have taken easier options without criticism.

It's going to be a cracker methinks.

Big Dave
18-01-07, 05:22 PM
Ive gone for Hatton. I think that it's a fight that could well go into the late rounds though. Haven't seen anything of Urango before but he's got a good reputation and his record so far is pretty good. He also looks to be in superb shape, as does Hatton. The big advantage I think Hatton's got though is that he's fought against some very decent opponents and I just wonder if the step up might be too much for Urango.

Either way, I'm predicting a real barnstomer.

Steve
18-01-07, 05:36 PM
I'm sticking with Hatton and I'm outta here and off to the airport!

:rock: :rock:

Jaco_Pastorious
18-01-07, 06:10 PM
Just spotted another vote for Urango. Who is number 2?

Shaggy
18-01-07, 06:51 PM
Hatton in 9 for me.

spud_gun
18-01-07, 06:54 PM
Urango Urango they drink it in the Congo :finger:

spud_gun
18-01-07, 06:55 PM
I'm hoping Hatton knocks this guy da fuck out and puts a real show on for the Americans.

:handshake:

Shaggy
18-01-07, 07:04 PM
Urango Urango they drink it in the Congo :finger:

:rash:



:crackoff:

kurtangle01
18-01-07, 07:28 PM
I'm sticking with Ricky. I realy want him to win this on Saturday. Urango looks a real monster though and I could see the fight going into the middle - late rounds before there's any sign of a K.O.

Shaggy
18-01-07, 07:31 PM
A few questions...

Anyone know what time the fight is due to start? I'm dreading ordering the fight and waking up on the sofa with fucking Trans-World Sport on the telly. :shake:

Also, is it being repeated the following morning on normal Sky?

kurtangle01
18-01-07, 07:36 PM
A few questions...

Anyone know what time the fight is due to start? I'm dreading ordering the fight and waking up on the sofa with fucking Trans-World Sport on the telly. :shake:

Also, is it being repeated the following morning on normal Sky?


The event Starts at 10.00P.M. and the Hatton fight will be on at around 4.00A.M. I would have thought but there are plenty of decent fights to keep you interested before the Hatton fight.

The event is repeated on Sunday but again it's on Sky Box Office so you'll still have to pay.
The free re-run will be on next weekend.

Shaggy
18-01-07, 08:01 PM
The event Starts at 10.00P.M. and the Hatton fight will be on at around 4.00A.M. I would have thought but there are plenty of decent fights to keep you interested before the Hatton fight.

The event is repeated on Sunday but again it's on Sky Box Office so you'll still have to pay.
The free re-run will be on next weekend.

Cheers mate.

That's shit. I'll order it anyway, but I just KNOW I'll fall asleep before it starts. :shake:

Jaco_Pastorious
18-01-07, 08:13 PM
I'm sticking with Ricky. I realy want him to win this on Saturday. Urango looks a real monster though and I could see the fight going into the middle - late rounds before there's any sign of a K.O.




Urango has been looking very sharp in sparring. He knows that this is a chance at enhancing his reputation against a top notch fighter in Hatton. He is good position as he is not expected to beat Hatton, and the bookies have him as a long shot.

Hatton on the other hand, is odds on, and is being expected, by the casual fan, to do a number on Urango.

My first prediction in this thread was for Urango to win in the eleventh round by stoppage, but I now think he may do so a little earlier. That's not a dig at Hatton though, as I think he may be world class, just an indication of how high I rate Urango.

The only thing I see going against Urango is the vast gulf in experience between Hatton and him.

kurtangle01
18-01-07, 08:18 PM
Urango has been looking very sharp in sparring. He knows that this is a chance at enhancing his reputation against a top notch fighter in Hatton. He is good position as he is not expected to beat Hatton, and the bookies have him as a long shot.

Hatton on the other hand, is odds on, and is being expected, by the casual fan, to do a number on Urango.

I saw some of the odds today and they were truely laughable. Whilst I hope Hatton wins if I was a betting man all my money would be going on Urango due to the odds being offered.

This guy will undoubtedly cause Ricky problems but I'm hoping that experience will see Hatton through. I'm expecting a barnstormer on Saturday because both guys come to fight it's a question of who has the better chin IMHO.

Jaco_Pastorious
18-01-07, 08:40 PM
I saw some of the odds today and they were truely laughable. Whilst I hope Hatton wins if I was a betting man all my money would be going on Urango due to the odds being offered.

This guy will undoubtedly cause Ricky problems but I'm hoping that experience will see Hatton through. I'm expecting a barnstormer on Saturday because both guys come to fight it's a question of who has the better chin IMHO.


I would find it hard to guess as to which fighter has the better chin. Guess it will come down to which chin gets tapped the most. I am curious to see who would genuinely want to fight the winner of this fight, I'm sure there will be some blowing hot air saying they want the winner, but once the dust settles, I cannot see too many managers wanting to put their man in with the winner.

kurtangle01
18-01-07, 08:53 PM
I would find it hard to guess as to which fighter has the better chin. Guess it will come down to which chin gets tapped the most. I am curious to see who would genuinely want to fight the winner of this fight, I'm sure there will be some blowing hot air saying they want the winner, but once the dust settles, I cannot see too many managers wanting to put their man in with the winner.


Well Junior Witter has offered to fight Ricky in a winner takes all the cash fight.:rolleyes: Maybe, just maybe, if Junior started concentrating on his own fights and stop trying to belittle Hattons achievements and fight decent fighters himself he would get the respect he thinks he deserves.

Castillo seems nailed on should he and Hatton win on Saturday but after that I'm not sure who's out there for Ricky. Corrales, Witter(not going to happen IMHO), Cotto, Torres, Mayweather?

Red Chilli
18-01-07, 09:08 PM
Hatton without a doubt.

Jaco_Pastorious
18-01-07, 11:41 PM
Well Junior Witter has offered to fight Ricky in a winner takes all the cash fight.:rolleyes: Maybe, just maybe, if Junior started concentrating on his own fights and stop trying to belittle Hattons achievements and fight decent fighters himself he would get the respect he thinks he deserves.

Castillo seems nailed on should he and Hatton win on Saturday but after that I'm not sure who's out there for Ricky. Corrales, Witter(not going to happen IMHO), Cotto, Torres, Mayweather?





Witter talks too much. He prefers to concentrate on the pace of his verbal attacks rather than hone the speed of his fistic ability. I think Hatton would take him to school if they met, and I reckon Witter knows that as well. I would fancy Hatton to beat Castillo also, I think the fight this weekend is a tougher fight for Hatton that Castillo would be. Cotto would be an interesting opponent, but I think Mayweather would be a bridge to far for Hatton.

Even were Hatton to lose at the weekend, some, if not most, of the big fights would still be around for him, as a loss might encourage some fighters to want to fight him.

I would be curious to see who would want to fight Urango if he wins. He would not be a draw, moneywise, compared to the interest Hatton would bring, so many fighter's camps would choose to ignore/avoid him, as he would be high risk and low profit imho.

Red Chilli
18-01-07, 11:43 PM
Witter talks too much.

Ironic :D

Jaco_Pastorious
18-01-07, 11:49 PM
Ironic :D


Fuck off and find an Argentinian player thread. :bird:

Jaco_Pastorious
18-01-07, 11:50 PM
And while I'm at it, did you get permission from my badgers to have that avator? :crackoff:

Red Chilli
18-01-07, 11:50 PM
Fuck off and find an Argentinian player thread. :bird:

Waasn't a comment on you Jaco.

"Witter"? Talk too much? Get it?

Jaco_Pastorious
18-01-07, 11:53 PM
Waasn't a comment on you Jaco.

"Witter"? Talk too much? Get it?




And the badger? :) I have them boys copyrighted at this stage.

Red Chilli
18-01-07, 11:54 PM
And the badger? :) I have them boys copyrighted at this stage.

Just like dancing badgers. I'll change it if you want. :handshake:

Jaco_Pastorious
18-01-07, 11:54 PM
Four people have voted for Urango, and I know I only voted once.:haha:

Who are these mystery guys? Come join the chat lads, don't have me being a one man Urango band.

Jaco_Pastorious
18-01-07, 11:57 PM
Just like dancing badgers. I'll change it if you want. :handshake:


Damn straight you won't change him. :handshake:

I have that BadgerBadgerBadger song in my head everytime I see that av. Long live the badger av. I'm EST's only Badger Wrangler, so I have to keep an eye on all things Mustelidae. (MattShark would be proud:) )

Red Chilli
19-01-07, 12:01 AM
Is that better? :D

Jaco_Pastorious
19-01-07, 12:05 AM
Is that better? :D


Now that's cool. :respect:

Red Chilli
19-01-07, 12:07 AM
:D Love those dancing badgers :handshake:

kurtangle01
19-01-07, 12:36 AM
Witter talks too much. He prefers to concentrate on the pace of his verbal attacks rather than hone the speed of his fistic ability. I think Hatton would take him to school if they met, and I reckon Witter knows that as well. I would fancy Hatton to beat Castillo also, I think the fight this weekend is a tougher fight for Hatton that Castillo would be. Cotto would be an interesting opponent, but I think Mayweather would be a bridge to far for Hatton.

Even were Hatton to lose at the weekend, some, if not most, of the big fights would still be around for him, as a loss might encourage some fighters to want to fight him.

I would be curious to see who would want to fight Urango if he wins. He would not be a draw, moneywise, compared to the interest Hatton would bring, so many fighter's camps would choose to ignore/avoid him, as he would be high risk and low profit imho.

I think that if Mayweather beats Oscar he'll stick around for another few fights but if he loses he may well call it a day. I would have loved to see Ricky fight him but I think that option has gone due to Floyd moving up the weights and Hatton going back down to Light-Welter.

I've just watched a preview on Sky for the fight and on that they said that Ricky's game plan is to box Urango for the first few rounds just to feel him out like he did against Ben Tackie. If Hatton can box as well as he can then I think that he has all the tools to beat Urango and the fact that he won't go steaming in like he has in his last 2 fights shows the respect they have for Urango IMHO.

It should be a cracking fight and I can't wait now.:rock:

IrishPaul
19-01-07, 03:54 AM
Cheers mate.

That's shit. I'll order it anyway, but I just KNOW I'll fall asleep before it starts. :shake:

Hatton in 9th/10th for me :cool:

BTW Shaggy, what I sometimes do for fights that are on early in the morning (depending on if the undercard is a decent one or not) is get the auld head down for a couple of hours on the sofa and set me alarm to wake me an hour or so before the main event begins, I find that I can watch the big one without dozing and enjoy it more :handshake:

Come On Ricky Boy!!!!!! :rock:

bazza76
19-01-07, 09:25 AM
Hatton in 9th/10th for me :cool:

BTW Shaggy, what I sometimes do for fights that are on early in the morning (depending on if the undercard is a decent one or not) is get the auld head down for a couple of hours on the sofa and set me alarm to wake me an hour or so before the main event begins, I find that I can watch the big one without dozing and enjoy it more :handshake:

Come On Ricky Boy!!!!!! :rock:
:handshake: good idea.
Im always ready just to konk out just as the fight is starting

spud_gun
19-01-07, 10:09 AM
A few questions...

Anyone know what time the fight is due to start? I'm dreading ordering the fight and waking up on the sofa with fucking Trans-World Sport on the telly. :shake:

Also, is it being repeated the following morning on normal Sky?

Seeing as this fight is in Vegas and the Hatton fight is top of the card then i think you'll be looking at a 5am start UK time.

I remeber ordering the Lewis vs Tyson fight. Going out for the night and then a crowd of us going back to mine to watch it. That started around 5am

Red_Al_77
19-01-07, 09:59 PM
Hatton looked nervous today.

kurtangle01
19-01-07, 10:05 PM
Hatton looked nervous today.

At the weigh in?

Red_Al_77
19-01-07, 10:15 PM
Press conference. There is a lot of expectation on him and he seemed to be taken aback by Umbongo's perceived upper body strength.

IrishPaul
19-01-07, 10:20 PM
:handshake: good idea.
Im always ready just to konk out just as the fight is starting


:cool: :handshake:

Jaco_Pastorious
19-01-07, 10:28 PM
Hatton looked nervous today.


Don't think he was nervous myself, Hatton often has a disinterested/wish I was somewhere else look on his face at the press conferences and weigh ins. A look at the fighter's eyes just before the bell goes will give a better indication of their mindsets.

It is not as though he has not seen how Urango is built and watched the tapes of him fight. Urango is a little brick shithouse who hits hard with both hands and takes hits well. Hatton needs his A game against him, and I would be surprised if Hatton tries to bring anything less.

The same applies to Juan, he needs his best game to take Hatton.


Really up for this one now.

Red_Al_77
19-01-07, 10:30 PM
It's going to be a bloody,long, and vicious fight. Hatton on points.

Jaco_Pastorious
19-01-07, 10:32 PM
It's going to be a bloody,long, and vicious fight. Hatton on points.


I'm expecting a war, just a matter of how long it takes for the touchpaper to be lit. I think Hatton is going to try and impose himself early doors.

kurtangle01
19-01-07, 10:42 PM
I'm expecting a war, just a matter of how long it takes for the touchpaper to be lit. I think Hatton is going to try and impose himself early doors.


From what I've seen on tele Hatton apparently plans to box Urango for the first few rounds like he did against Tackie and Olivera just to feel Urango out before steaming in. That's sensible IMHO.

Jaco_Pastorious
19-01-07, 10:54 PM
From what I've seen on tele Hatton apparently plans to box Urango for the first few rounds like he did against Tackie and Olivera just to feel Urango out before steaming in. That's sensible IMHO.


I agree, which is why I think he will try to impose himself early. Working a jab and boxing off of it. Using it to frustrate Urango and set himself up as the main man so to speak.

Kaip
19-01-07, 10:57 PM
that Urango is fookin huge :oh:

Jaco_Pastorious
19-01-07, 10:59 PM
that Urango is fookin huge :oh:


Pick a winner, Man of Wales.

kurtangle01
19-01-07, 11:03 PM
that Urango is fookin huge :oh:

This might sound a bit daft but he's maybe a bit to big for a light-welter and having to squeeze himself down to 140lbs could possibly have an effect on his stamina as the fight progresses.

He's certainly a big guy though and will be a dangerous opponent. My biggest hope is that Hatton puts him in his place early on without getting any cuts. If Urango opens up a cut above either of Hattons eyes early on with one of those right or left hooks it could be a very long night for Ricky.

kurtangle01
19-01-07, 11:04 PM
Pick a winner, Man of Wales.


Who are you going for, jaco?

Kaip
19-01-07, 11:11 PM
how much weight as hatton had to lose to make the weight,cause to me he looked gaunt in the weigh-in

Jaco_Pastorious
19-01-07, 11:14 PM
Who are you going for, jaco?


Thought it was clear who I am picking. :) Urango to stop Hatton, I have been thinking that since the fight was announced and I have seen nothing to change my mind since.

Seen a lot of Urango down the years, mostly in the unpaid ranks, enough to make me think that he will be a world class fighter in time.

kurtangle01
19-01-07, 11:19 PM
how much weight as hatton had to lose to make the weight,cause to me he looked gaunt in the weigh-in


I'm not sure to be honest. Hatton was very big up until about 2-3 months ago but he always seems to be big in between fights. He weighed in at 9 stone 13 lbs at the weigh in so he's obviously made it it quite easily.

As for looking gaunt...I think Hatton looks in the best shape I've seen him for a long time.

kurtangle01
19-01-07, 11:21 PM
Thought it was clear who I am picking. :) Urango to stop Hatton, I have been thinking that since the fight was announced and I have seen nothing to change my mind since.

Seen a lot of Urango down the years, mostly in the unpaid ranks, enough to make me think that he will be a world class fighter in time.


Yes that's right now I remember. Urango looks a big lad and he will undoubtedly carry some power but from what I've seen, which I admit is very little, he looks quite slow. Would I be right in saying that?

kurtangle01
19-01-07, 11:22 PM
Urango has weighed in bang on 140lbs.

Kaip
19-01-07, 11:23 PM
I'm not sure to be honest. Hatton was very big up until about 2-3 months ago but he always seems to be big in between fights. He weighed in at 9 stone 13 lbs at the weigh in so he's obviously made it it quite easily.

As for looking gaunt...I think Hatton looks in the best shape I've seen him for a long time.



If you`re going for Urango............i`ll go for Hatton...............whoever wins gets to pick any drink he wants in March :handshake:

kurtangle01
19-01-07, 11:24 PM
If you`re going for Urango............i`ll go for Hatton...............whoever wins gets to pick any drink he wants in March :handshake:

But I'm going for Hatton so you'll have to go for Urango.:p

Kaip
19-01-07, 11:32 PM
But I'm going for Hatton so you'll have to go for Urango.:p




hahahaha................sorry fella,that was meant for mike................i`m pissed by the way :haha:

kurtangle01
19-01-07, 11:38 PM
hahahaha................sorry fella,that was meant for mike................i`m pissed by the way :haha:


Thought so.:haha:

kurtangle01
19-01-07, 11:42 PM
I posted a few minutes ago that Urango had weighed in at 140 bang on. That was according to SSN but a few of the web sites I've read have said that he was 139lbs, the same as Ricky. Castillo has also made the weight for his fight on the under card.

Jaco_Pastorious
20-01-07, 10:03 AM
I'm not sure to be honest. Hatton was very big up until about 2-3 months ago but he always seems to be big in between fights. He weighed in at 9 stone 13 lbs at the weigh in so he's obviously made it it quite easily.

As for looking gaunt...I think Hatton looks in the best shape I've seen him for a long time.






I would have to agree with you as Hatton looks to be in great nick. Looks really fit. No problems with losing too much weight too quickly for him this time out. Unlike the bookies and general public, Hatton is not taking the threat of Urango lightly.

Jaco_Pastorious
20-01-07, 10:07 AM
Yes that's right now I remember. Urango looks a big lad and he will undoubtedly carry some power but from what I've seen, which I admit is very little, he looks quite slow. Would I be right in saying that?


He would not normally be a slow fighter, he can fight at different paces and be comfortable. I'm curious to see the tactics he tries against Hatton, I have a feeling that they are both going to start with the same tactic, to try to outbox the other early before bringing the firepower to bear.

Was watching some footage this morning of Hatton in training and he looks sharp, better than I have seen him look in years to be honest.

kurtangle01
20-01-07, 11:54 AM
Here's a good Hatton article from one of the Las Vegas papers.

http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2007/Jan-20-Sat-2007/sports/12085090.html

BOXING: Faces tell entire story for tonight's Hatton-Urango fight

Juan Urango is built like a champion, but the IBF junior welterweight titleholder has little chance against Ricky Hatton.
Photo by Jane Kalinowsky.

There has to be a bodybuilding contest somewhere that Juan Urango can win. The guy is built like a 140-pound version of Mr. Olympia.

It's too bad there isn't one scheduled, because he would fare a lot better than he will tonight against Ricky Hatton.

The affable Brit is a 7-1 favorite for their IBF junior welterweight title fight at Paris Las Vegas, though Urango is the reigning champion.

There is a reason Hatton is 7-1 odds, even though Urango (17-0-1, 13 knockouts) is unbeaten.

You can see it in Hatton's face.

He has won money at the gaming tables. He has downed a few pints with friends and fans in the pubs. He has charmed everyone he has come into contact with and has given the Las Vegas Convention & Visitors Authority a year's worth of material in a few days.

The only problem Hatton may have is getting out of Las Vegas on Thursday and returning home to Manchester, England. He has become beloved here so quickly, he might not be allowed to leave.

His face tells the story of a confident, content young man poised to succeed Oscar De La Hoya as boxing's biggest star.

Not even De La Hoya has Hatton's combination of eye-grabbing style, self-deprecating humor and natural charisma.

His in-ring style is so entertaining that former lightweight champion Jose Luis Castillo, whose 2005 bout with Diego Corrales is perhaps the greatest fight ever, said of him, "He fights like a Mexican."

There is no bigger compliment coming from a Mexican fighter than to say one fights like a Mexican.

You can see the outcome of the fight in Urango's face, too. His face tells the story of a guy stuck in unfamiliar surroundings, awed by the hoopla, overcome by the moment.

He says all the requisite things -- he's in the best shape of his life, he's coming to win, not just to earn a payday -- but he doesn't sound convincing.

He doesn't have to convince anyone he's in shape, because that's obvious from looking at his chiseled physique.

But as the thousands of British fans who have descended upon Las Vegas have learned the hard way through Frank Bruno, a chiseled physique guarantees only that you'll look good while supine.

Don't expect Urango to wind up on his back, but don't expect an upset, either. He's a tough kid, but his style is Hatton's style. Hatton has the better chin, the shiftier feet and the wider assortment of punches.

Hatton is no Floyd Mayweather Jr., but he insists his boxing skills are underrated.

"It wouldn't make sense to box Floyd," Hatton said, "but ... "

But, he should have added, Urango is no Mayweather. Urango will be in front of him all night, relentlessly pressing forward while absorbing more and more punishment.

"I can box from distance if need be," said Hatton (41-0, 30 KOs). "But I usually don't take too many backward steps. Neither does Juan. This will be my kind of a fight."

After a while, that's going to take its toll on Urango.

It's clearly Ricky Hatton's show, even though he went to great pains to apologize to Urango for any slights when, breaking from boxing protocol, the champion was asked to speak first at Thursday's news conference.

Urango insisted he took no offense, though maybe it would have been nice to see fire from him.

He, you can bet, will see fire from Hatton. The challenger will be fighting his fourth consecutive world champion -- he has disposed of Kostya Tszyu, Carlos Maussa and Luis Collazo in his previous three outings -- and said, "I've got no need for those handpicked mandatories."

His trainer, Billy Graham, scoffed at the notion that Hatton has anything yet to prove.

"Those of you who are doubting him, you won't be for much longer," Graham said.

Hatton is far too smart to be drawn into a war of words with Mayweather. Hatton has enough of an ego to believe he could defeat the man most consider the world's best, and he has a unique way of getting his point across.

But he has become beloved in his homeland -- and now in Las Vegas -- by walking the fine line between confidence and bragging.

He gives Mayweather the credit due his vast skills but suggests Mayweather could never stir the passion in fans the way some fighters (notably Hatton) do.

"If you've seen Floyd once, you've seen him a million times," Hatton said. "Nothing changes. All his fights are the same. They're a bit like watching chess, I'd say. Chess is a great game, mind you, but I'd rather watch a fight."

Ricky Hatton is going to give 7,000 or so of his closest friends a fight tonight at Paris Las Vegas. Perhaps that's why Juan Urango looks so worried.

Kevin Iole's boxing column is published Saturday. He can be reached at 396-4428 or kiole@reviewjournal.com.

Jaco_Pastorious
20-01-07, 12:46 PM
Interesting piece. Seems the writer has pretty much written Urango off as well. Seems to me that the great unwashed are expecting a similar fight to the Calzaghe-Lacy one, in terms of a one way battle.

I hope Hatton does not share the attitude of the writer, that all he has to do is turn up to win. I really despise the ignorance shown to and about fighters at times. It shows a total lack of respect. The same press would shred Hatton if he does not put in a performance tonight or if he were to get beat.

kurtangle01
20-01-07, 03:14 PM
Interesting piece. Seems the writer has pretty much written Urango off as well. Seems to me that the great unwashed are expecting a similar fight to the Calzaghe-Lacy one, in terms of a one way battle.

I hope Hatton does not share the attitude of the writer, that all he has to do is turn up to win. I really despise the ignorance shown to and about fighters at times. It shows a total lack of respect. The same press would shred Hatton if he does not put in a performance tonight or if he were to get beat.

It seems easy for writers to write off an unknown fighter but I think that this article, despite being well written, is way off how the fight will go. I really want Hatton to win but in boxing everyone has a punchers chance whether they're world class or not. Urango is huge and I'm sure he'll have a good punch on him and I expect him to cause Ricky problems. I'm also certain that Hatton wont undermine Urango. He did that with Collazo and almost got caught out so I think that he'll be well prepared for this one.

I hope that he's well prepared any way.

kurtangle01
20-01-07, 03:47 PM
http://www.skysports.com/skysports/article/0,,12-1248155,00.html

Ricky Hatton weighed in at 9 stone 13 lbs for Saturday's IBF light-welterweight fight against Juan Urango.

Hatton, wearing a pair of Union Jack underpants, was cheered on by almost 1,000 fans at the Palace Casino in Las Vegas.

Champion Urango also weighed in at 9 stone 13 lbs, just 1lb inside the light-welterweight limit of 10 stone.

"I am really proud to be here and to get this sort of reception," said Hatton, who has been criticised in the build-up for his tendancy to let his weight balloon between fights.

"This belt is definitely coming back home with me."

Hatton put in some hard training to get himself in prime condition and he is even willing to forego his traditional pre-fight full English breakfast.

"I don't want to upset the Americans but nobody does the English breakfast like the English," he said.

"I want my bacon and sausage but over here it is just not the same.

"I have been through 12 weeks of training and eaten all the right stuff but now I am sick of all the pasta and vegetables and I can't wait to get a bit of grease back in my body."

Jaco_Pastorious
20-01-07, 04:01 PM
Sounds like Hatton is coming in focused on the job. Should be a cracker. One of those fights that I will have nothing but praise for the winner, as both fighters are taking on a tough sod. Although Juan will never have met a fighter as good as Hatton.

Marky
20-01-07, 05:24 PM
Sorry lads bit off topic but what time does this fight start do you know?

Jaco_Pastorious
20-01-07, 05:37 PM
Sorry lads bit off topic but what time does this fight start do you know?


between 4 and 5am.

kurtangle01
20-01-07, 05:40 PM
Sorry lads bit off topic but what time does this fight start do you know?


Probably about 4ish...

There's plenty of good quality fights to keep you interested before then though.:handshake:

kurtangle01
20-01-07, 05:41 PM
I can't wait now. We beat the chavs today and now all I need is a Hatton win and it'll have been a great weekend!:rock:

Shaggy
20-01-07, 06:03 PM
I can't wait now. We beat the chavs today and now all I need is a Hatton win and it'll have been a great weekend!:rock:

A win for Ricky AND then an Arsenal win tomorrow and I'll be skipping all the way to work on Monday.

Well, not quite....but you get my drift. :D :rock:

kurtangle01
20-01-07, 06:05 PM
A win for Ricky AND then an Arsenal win tomorrow and I'll be skipping all the way to work on Monday.

Well, not quite....but you get my drift. :D :rock:

I'm already skiping since the result against the chavs!:haha: Wait and see me if Hatton and the arse win!:rock:

kurtangle01
20-01-07, 10:03 PM
And the show begins. Can't wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

kurtangle01
20-01-07, 10:55 PM
Junior Witter has a cheek to criticise Ricky Hatton for "hand picking opponents" That guy there tonight was not even close to being world class. It was an easy fight selected because they knew it would be easy for him.

There's no doubt that Witter is a tricky customer but lets see hm in with real world class fighters before he starts criticising other peoples choice of opponents.

Boogar
20-01-07, 11:03 PM
Junior Witter has a cheek to criticise Ricky Hatton for "hand picking opponents" That guy there tonight was not even close to being world class. It was an easy fight selected because they knew it would be easy for him.

There's no doubt that Witter is a tricky customer but lets see hm in with real world class fighters before he starts criticising other peoples choice of opponents.

:handshake:
I can not stand Witter. That fight was picked for him to look good and he showed some class but he will get caught if he is that open with the big boies

Jaco_Pastorious
20-01-07, 11:05 PM
Junior Witter has a cheek to criticise Ricky Hatton for "hand picking opponents" That guy there tonight was not even close to being world class. It was an easy fight selected because they knew it would be easy for him.

There's no doubt that Witter is a tricky customer but lets see hm in with real world class fighters before he starts criticising other peoples choice of opponents.







I have already said what I think of Witter earlier in the thread, but he gets on my nerves with his comments. He is nowhere near world class, and he will make sure that he is not exposed by avoiding fighters like Hatton. Hatton gets into the ring with fighters that are a genuine threat, Witter gets into a ring when he knows he can win.

kurtangle01
21-01-07, 12:08 AM
That fight between Morrison and Daws was a real barnstormer. Cracking domestic fight so lets hope we can see a rematch!

kurtangle01
21-01-07, 12:12 AM
I have already said what I think of Witter earlier in the thread, but he gets on my nerves with his comments. He is nowhere near world class, and he will make sure that he is not exposed by avoiding fighters like Hatton. Hatton gets into the ring with fighters that are a genuine threat, Witter gets into a ring when he knows he can win.

What you say about Witters comments are spot on. He criticised Hatton for fighting Carlos Maussa in a unification match for the first defence of his IBF Light-Welterweight title yet Witters first defence was against a man who was beaten by Maussa.

Witter nearly put me to sleep tonight with that. If he'd dared to step in the ring with some one remotley dangerous he'd have been in big trouble. From what I've seen Ricky Hatton would demolish him.

ronan
21-01-07, 12:27 AM
lads anyone know of a stream of the fight anywhere

Cantankerous
21-01-07, 12:37 AM
Not sure if the boxing match mentioned on here will be the Hatton fight, but it could be...

http://www.myp2p.eu/Other.htm

chewyuk
21-01-07, 12:48 AM
Probably about 4ish...

There's plenty of good quality fights to keep you interested before then though.:handshake:Bugger - that it was about 2.45

kurtangle01
21-01-07, 12:55 AM
lads anyone know of a stream of the fight anywhere

www.streamtvnow.com

Give this a try. You'll have to pay a months sub which is about 1 0r 2 pounds. You might be lucky and get logged on here. Give it a try.

bazza76
21-01-07, 03:28 AM
Castilo hasnt impressed me too much in this fight, looks lightish. If he gets through this fight, and Hatton wins, Hatton will wlk right through him.

kurtangle01
21-01-07, 03:51 AM
Castilo hasnt impressed me too much in this fight, looks lightish. If he gets through this fight, and Hatton wins, Hatton will wlk right through him.

I was thinking the same as the fight went on. Hatton will have his hands full tonight though because this guy Urango is huge.

I'm really hoping that Hatton wins.

COME ON RICKY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

kurtangle01
21-01-07, 03:51 AM
Castillo has one so lets hope that Hatton wins and we will have a hge fight to look forward to in the summer.

kurtangle01
21-01-07, 04:22 AM
Ricky is boxing well but you can see that Urango has power.

kurtangle01
21-01-07, 04:30 AM
5th round Urango is starting to trouble Hatton with those body shots.

kurtangle01
21-01-07, 04:30 AM
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bazza76
21-01-07, 04:38 AM
looks like it will be a points win for Ricky. As long as he doesnt get knocked out or cut badly he should win.

kurtangle01
21-01-07, 04:43 AM
Hatton's getting caught a bit to much with the southpaw hook for my liking. He's still boxing well though.

kurtangle01
21-01-07, 04:43 AM
looks like it will be a points win for Ricky. As long as he doesnt get knocked out or cut badly he should win.

At the moment I agree but I think this guy could still have a big say in the fight.

kurtangle01
21-01-07, 04:47 AM
Urango has taken round 9 IMHO. He caught Hatton with a good few punches, to many infact!!!

kurtangle01
21-01-07, 04:55 AM
This Urango is one tough bastard. If all goes well Ricky should take this on points. He just has to stay away from this guys power.

kurtangle01
21-01-07, 04:59 AM
Props to Ricky for staying with this guy. He's one big bastard. If Ricky hasn't taken this on points it will be an injustice IMHO!!!

kurtangle01
21-01-07, 05:01 AM
Well done Ricky!!! 119-109 on all the score cards. He was never going to knock this guy out. What is it with Sky pindits? They always want to criticise people. No wonder Ricky was knackered having to try and control a guy the size of Urango.

kurtangle01
21-01-07, 05:05 AM
Hatton Vs Castillo is on!!!!!!:rock:

bazza76
21-01-07, 05:45 AM
was very upprised with the scoring of that fight, Urango is lacking some real world clas experience, as soon as he gets that and this fight will have done hi more good than harm, he could give hatton even more problems the next time. Good win for Ricky though, Castillo seemed to be in a similar place to hatton tonight, lets just see who can whip themselves into the better shape.

Jaco_Pastorious
21-01-07, 09:56 AM
Very very good win for Hatton, he just had too much ring savvy for Juan, and that experience counted. I had hoped that Juan would have shown more than he did, he normally mixes it up a bit more and brings a bit more variety to his performances, but I'll credit the lack of that to Hatton forcing the issue and dictating the pace and style of the fight.


I think the score of 119 -109 was a bit harsh though as there were a few nip and tuck rounds, but there is no doubt that Hatton clearly won.

Jaco_Pastorious
21-01-07, 09:59 AM
Well done Ricky!!! 119-109 on all the score cards. He was never going to knock this guy out. What is it with Sky pindits? They always want to criticise people. No wonder Ricky was knackered having to try and control a guy the size of Urango.



I hate the pundits and a lot of the press, it's like I said before, if Hatton did not flatten Urango, then people would be making critical comments about Hatton. People had no idea how strong and tough Urango is, and are not giving Hatton enough credit for beating such a fighter.

The Glove
21-01-07, 11:45 AM
I voted for Hatton :handshake:

Jaco_Pastorious
21-01-07, 01:14 PM
I voted for Hatton :handshake:


Well done. :bird:

Kaip
21-01-07, 01:16 PM
If you`re going for Urango............i`ll go for Hatton...............whoever wins gets to pick any drink he wants in March :handshake:





Mike.................make mine a fookin large one :handshake:

Jaco_Pastorious
21-01-07, 01:17 PM
Mike.................make mine a fookin large one :handshake:


Right or left? :crackoff:



Can see a litre of water being handed to Kaip.

Jaco_Pastorious
21-01-07, 01:19 PM
Just noticed that Hatton to win has gained three votes since the fight ended. :haha: :haha:

kurtangle01
21-01-07, 01:40 PM
I hate the pundits and a lot of the press, it's like I said before, if Hatton did not flatten Urango, then people would be making critical comments about Hatton. People had no idea how strong and tough Urango is, and are not giving Hatton enough credit for beating such a fighter.

They were critcising him for his post Tszyu fight tactics before the fight and then after the fight they were criticisng him for not using those tactics. It was a no win situation for Hatton.

Johnny Nelson took the buscuit when he said that Ricky should have been in Urango face throwing loads of punches. I'd like to see him in there with a naturally bigger guy going gung ho. The fact is that he wouldn't because he would know that there is a chance that he could be caught with a big punch.

Hatton employed the correct tactics last night and like Mayweather when he fought Baldomir Ricky knew that he wasn't going to KO Urango from about the second round IMHO so there was no point steaming in.

He boxed well and Urango never had the answers at the end up.

Kaip
21-01-07, 01:42 PM
Right or left? :crackoff:



Can see a litre of water being handed to Kaip.




I`ll have a martini...........shaken not stirred :handshake:

Jaco_Pastorious
21-01-07, 01:46 PM
They were critcising him for his post Tszyu fight tactics before the fight and then after the fight they were criticisng him for not using those tactics. It was a no win situation for Hatton.

Johnny Nelson took the buscuit when he said that Ricky should have been in Urango face throwing loads of punches. I'd like to see him in there with a naturally bigger guy going gung ho. The fact is that he wouldn't because he would know that there is a chance that he could be caught with a big punch.

Hatton employed the correct tactics last night and like Mayweather when he fought Baldomir Ricky knew that he wasn't going to KO Urango from about the second round IMHO so there was no point steaming in.

He boxed well and Urango never had the answers at the end up.








:handshake:



Johnny Nelson should know better, he saw how his ventures into heavyweight waters went, so he should not be quick to judge how a man should try to counteract a naturally stronger man.

Jaco_Pastorious
21-01-07, 01:51 PM
I`ll have a martini...........shaken not stirred :handshake:






Would Sir like an Aston Martin with his drink?