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Nicey
24-01-07, 04:10 AM
As that clever chappy Mr. Young recently said, how has this happened, were we all sleeping when the Corporations silently just took over things.

Some recent headlines from this week.

CEOs call for action against climate change

Of the current talks in Doha, meeting which started in 2001 for democratically elected government ministers I think there are 40 ministers and 200 CEO's

We move ever closer to a true definition of a fascist super state, authoritarian corporatism, warped collectivism fueled by fear of shadowy bogey men, individual rights must be given up for the good of the many, a form of cultural nationalism has swept the western world, one which has been carefully manufactured and is been gulped down with moronic glee.

The Stock Markets Rise and fall and we never see any of the benefits. Corporations dont give a flying fuck about the community, people, all they are about is the bottom line. Were ever is cheapest to produce, they produce, all your trendy apple gadgets ... cool and groovy right, right on company is that apple, made in Chinese slave labor shops .

There is such apathy around globe a form of global anesthetis.

But I suppose on the other hand the world is a much better place these days because we care about these issues and it is ironically for that reason that we can sometimes be forgiven to think the world is going down the shitter. When actually the truth of the matter is the world is a much better place, our standards of what is and what is not acceptable are actaully rising not falling, it just seems that way.

One thing is for sure, I nor any of you did not vote these companies into office. They do not represent me or my views or I hazard a guess yours and yet they have considerably more sway over the running of things than your average politician. But just like politicians ultimately its the people who give them there profit margins and I think its about time we all started to vote with are purchasing decisions.

That said my new Ipod Shuffle is the Nads ...... :handshake:

Guest
24-01-07, 04:19 AM
That said my new Ipod Shuffle is the Nads ...... :handshake:

You completely ruined your argument with that quote Mr. Nice mate. :handshake: :D

The power is in the hands of the people. If we realize that, we'll be fine.

Nicey
24-01-07, 04:23 AM
Yeah I know ... Trust me I am no template for Civic duty but at least I am becoming increasingly aware of my short comings

Guest
24-01-07, 04:30 AM
The problem we face is what to do with our lives. If we decide that we're going the 'ethical' route, we'll probably be left behind and tagged as some sort of clown.

Look at José Bové in France, he's been fighting all these big biotech corporations such as Monsanto, but some think he's an idiot. Clearly he's not though, he will be a candidate for France's next political elections.

But the world need men such as him, with the courage and willpower to fight it all alone, hoping to grab some attention and attract people to fight the cause alongside them. In doing that, surely your life won't be the same, as you'll be leaving that 'comfort zone' behind.

Neil Young
24-01-07, 01:17 PM
The power is in the hands of the people. If we realize that, we'll be fine.
I agree. It is up to us. However we have to recognise the threat first, the way things are. Also those in power tend not to relinquish voluntarily and without a struggle.

That last sentence could be from Kaip's calendar. Sorry. :(

dww
24-01-07, 02:21 PM
Look at José Bové in France, he's been fighting all these big biotech corporations such as Monsanto, but some think he's an idiot. Clearly he's not though, he will be a candidate for France's next political elections.

“That so few now dare to be eccentric marks the chief danger of the time” - John Stuart Mill

The incredible igor
26-01-07, 01:54 PM
The law treats a corporation as a legal "person" which has always been the case. They were highly regulated until the american civil war when the constitution was chaged to give all persons equaly rights. This was supposed to be end of slavery but corporations exploited this new law to give themselves almost limitless freedoms and now enslave millions around the world :D

Quote from http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/index.php/Corporations (http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/index.php/Corporations):
The law treats a corporation as a legal "person" that has standing to sue and be sued, distinct from its stockholders. The legal independence of a corporation prevents shareholders from being personally liable for corporate debts. It also allows stockholders to sue the corporation through a derivative suit and makes ownership in the company (shares) easily transferable. The legal "person" status of corporations gives the business perpetual life; deaths of officials or stockholders do not alter the corporation's structure.


Probably off topic but i need to go do some work now :haha:

Flake
26-01-07, 02:11 PM
you're living in the library today!!!