a little thing about lil luis garcia

[ronan]

most of us will admit to calling this little fella a ****house or a lazy little whatever on more than one occaison. his tendancy to give the ball away far too easily is something which fans of english football cannot come to terms with.Garcia will try his tricks and flicks continuasly hoping for that one bit of magic that will lead to a goal. and boy does he know how ,and when, to score them.
juve at home,THAT goal aginst chelsea at anfield, fa cup versus chelsea, 2 away at kaiserslauten a screamer against charlton the list goes on.
now if i told you we were after a midfielder who plied his trade at one of the worlds biggest clubs, had one the champions league and had scored 11 goals in 26 starts last year , i am quite sure you would be running a list of some of europes famous midfielders through your head to come up with who im talking about.
not a bad return is it.?
so, despite starting no less than 14 fewer games last season he almost equaled his tallly from his debut year in which he had a return of 13 goals in all comps from 40 starts.
so hopefully he will continue to frustrate us agin this season eh?

[PLY]

Somebody somewhere else has posted this before but basically with the skill he has allied with his ability to score goals , if he didn't give the ball away he would be as good as Ronaldinho and would have cost a lot more than

[Rosco]

I have to say I've never abused Luis Garcia in the way the original poster admits to. I understand that a player of his nature, a creative one who tries things, simply cannot work magic all the time.

I don't mind too much if Garcia is giving away the ball because generally when he does it's because he's trying to create something for a teammate. Incidentally in the league last year he gave away less possession than Peter Crouch.

[paulcooper4]

I have to say I've never abused Luis Garcia in the way the original poster admits to. I understand that a player of his nature, a creative one who tries things, simply cannot work magic all the time.

I don't mind too much if Garcia is giving away the ball because generally when he does it's because he's trying to create something for a teammate. Incidentally in the league last year he gave away less possession than Peter Crouch.

i think crouch played a lot more football though

[Rosco]

i think crouch played a lot more football though

Well Crouch played 32 (started 27) league games, Garcia played 30 (15 starts , 15 sub appearances).

It's still a precentage based stat though. Garcia was actually better at retaining possession than Crouch. He had a better goals to minutes ratio too.

[paulcooper4]

Well Crouch played 32 (started 27) league games, Garcia played 30 (15 starts , 15 sub appearances).

It's still a precentage based stat though. Garcia was actually better at retaining possession than Crouch. He had a better goals to minutes ratio too.

oh well, ive been statted good and proper! anyway, i like both players, even though both have there own annoying faults, they both more than make up for it in there good points. Prob harder to retain posession in crouchs position id say though with a centre half kicking ****e out of ya as soon as you get the ball.

[Rosco]

oh well, ive been statted good and proper! anyway, i like both players, even though both have there own annoying faults, they both more than make up for it in there good points. Prob harder to retain posession in crouchs position id say though with a centre half kicking ****e out of ya as soon as you get the ball.

Maybe it is, I just find it an amusing disproof of the conventional wisdom.
Crouch is lauded as the best striker at holding up and keeping possession (mainly to detract from his many faults) while Garcia is crucified for being wasteful but the truth of the matter is that Garcia gives possession away less often than Crouch.

P.S. In case you haven't already noticed I'm a huge Garcia fan, you can never have too many matchwinners in your squad.

[adammac19]

With Crouch I think the fact that in a lot of matches that he play he becomes Isolated and with 3 defenders closing in on him he will lose th ball 9 times out of 10 unlike Garcia who might have a better option to pass the ball off and instead trys some flick that works once every ten times rather than the simple play.

I like Garcia and he is the only player beside Gerrard that can open a match up and win it but the lad can be a bit fusterating to watch

[SouthAfricaRed]

I like Garcia and he is the only player beside Gerrard that can open a match up and win it but the lad can be a bit fusterating to watch

Up untill this season Yes. From what I've seen of Aurelio and Gonzalez, They are similar players.

Anyway, Nice to see that people here appreciate what Garcia brings to the Side. A lot of "Fans" want to cash in on Garcia

Garcia is not a RW. His Best position is playing of the strikers or even as a striker. This season he'll be used as a Super sub and people will see how effective he can be. He showed a bit last season against Arsenal at home.

[stevenage_kop]

luis is great. his flair has helped us out plus he loves to score in a big game. for all his flicks which dont work the ones what do are joyeous to watch.

long live king luis


........pass the sangria

[Rich]

How can people knock Lil' Luis Garcia?!?

He has proved time and time again what he brings to OUR club. Yes he gives the ball away, but his positives far outweight the negatives.

As for being a lazy SOB, I've never seen him NOT put the work in.

I predict we'll see more of the same from Luis this year....

[dww]

Maybe it is, I just find it an amusing disproof of the conventional wisdom.
Crouch is lauded as the best striker at holding up and keeping possession (mainly to detract from his many faults) while Garcia is crucified for being wasteful but the truth of the matter is that Garcia gives possession away less often than Crouch.

P.S. In case you haven't already noticed I'm a huge Garcia fan, you can never have too many matchwinners in your squad.

I like both players but I think the stats you quote while indicative of the fact that Garcia is not as bad as some make out are unfair on Crouch. The reason is that Crouch leads the line and thus recieves the ball when other players are not around. It has to be expected that in this situation it is harder to offload the ball and thus harder to not lose the ball.

[Shaggy]

Maybe it is, I just find it an amusing disproof of the conventional wisdom.
Crouch is lauded as the best striker at holding up and keeping possession (mainly to detract from his many faults) while Garcia is crucified for being wasteful but the truth of the matter is that Garcia gives possession away less often than Crouch.

P.S. In case you haven't already noticed I'm a huge Garcia fan, you can never have too many matchwinners in your squad.

What I also notice is that you seem to have a misguided vendetta against Peter Crouch based on some misleading stats? If that's the case, maybe you should have a word with Rafa as he seems to have a completely contrasting opinion to yours. Are you a football genius too?

Stats only tell a small part of the story as you should well know.

[Shaggy]

I like both players but I think the stats you quote while indicative of the fact that Garcia is not as bad as some make out are unfair on Crouch. The reason is that Crouch leads the line and thus recieves the ball when other players are not around. It has to be expected that in this situation it is harder to offload the ball and thus harder to not lose the ball.

Excellent point. Remember at the start of last season when we played 4-5-1? Crouchie was always so isolated; we failed abysmally to get players running beyond him or even alongside him. In fact there was often nobody anywhere near Crouchie. That was rectified when Rafa reverted to a 4-4-2.

This crap stat about "giving away possession" carries little weight.

[univofchicago]

most of us will admit to calling this little fella a ****house or a lazy little whatever on more than one occaison.

Not me!