View Full Version : "I wish he'd stayed at Anfield"
brendan
02-08-06, 04:20 PM
Which Liverpool player do you wish had stayed at Liverpool?
It could be a player that decided to move on (for cash, trophies, whatever)
It could be a player that left because of limited opportunities/ fell out with the manager/ injured/ we needed the cash/ everyone else thought was crap.
Which player do you always have a pang of regret about, and why?
I'll ignore my head saying Michael Owen and go for Beardsley.
Great, great player and his subsequent displays for the Blue Shite and then the hapless "Toon Army" made me wish he'd stayed at Anfield a bit longer.
Owen. McManaman, Cisse, Aldridge.
Jari Litmanen - never got a chance to show what he could do. He fell out with GH apparently, a truly class act.
:miffed:
first one that springs to mind...
At the time David Thompson, a local lad with plenty of potential and he added some extra 'bite' to the team, something I felt was lacking at times. Obviously since he left he hasn't gone on to achieve much but felt when he left he should of stayed.
I will be very sad to see Didi in a Citeh shirt (although not as sad as I would've been to see him in a Bolton shirt) but that's not exactly a case of "I wish he'd stayed at Anfield", because we probably did the right thing in letting him go.
We sold Beardsley far too soon...another indication of Souness trying too hard to make his own imprint on the club.
There was also a time when I wished we'd never let Brad Friedel go, as he performed heroically in the Premiership at a time when we struggled to find a keeper who could catch.
I wish Rushie had never left for Juventus, if only because when I read the news on Ceefax or Oracle I burst into tears. :cry:
I will be very sad to see Didi in a Citeh shirt (although not as sad as I would've been to see him in a Bolton shirt) but that's not exactly a case of "I wish he'd stayed at Anfield", because we probably did the right thing in letting him go.
We sold Beardsley far too soon...another indication of Souness trying too hard to make his own imprint on the club.
There was also a time when I wished we'd never let Brad Friedel go, as he performed heroically in the Premiership at a time when we struggled to find a keeper who could catch.
I wish Rushie had never left for Juventus, if only because when I read the news on Ceefax or Oracle I burst into tears. :cry:
brendan
02-08-06, 04:31 PM
Owen. McManaman, Cisse, Aldridge.
Aldo is a good shout. He scored goals everywhere he went.
When you think about it, there aren't THAT many players (in recent times)
that you can really have a tear in your eye about leaving (from a professional/ football stance anyway) , is there?
I suppose it's a testament to the club that most only go when we tell them to. Greats like Barnes, Rush, McMahon, Whelan, Hansen, Nicol, Grobs et al were thoroughly squeezed of all their "juices" before leaving/ retiring. In some cases, they stayed a bit TOO long, but anyway.
I'm hoping that this thread will also cough up a few "Well, everyone else thougt they were crap, but *I* liked them" players.
Like Murphy, or Morientes.
You've already done Cisse (which as you know, I agree with)
I'm hoping that this thread will also cough up a few "Well, everyone else thougt they were crap, but *I* liked them" players.
Like Murphy, or Morientes.
You've already done Cisse (which as you know, I agree with)
Thats one player I was glad to see the back off!
:haha:
What are you laughing at, you opprobrious fcukwit?
What are you laughing at, you opprobrious fcukwit?
No need for the name calling:shake:
No need for the name calling:shake:
Apologies, after his "overbearing twat" remarks, I had presumed it was open-season...
Le Chacal
02-08-06, 05:16 PM
Henchoz
Apologies, after his "overbearing twat" remarks, I had presumed it was open-season...
It was 'objectionable', actually. :crackoff:
What are you laughing at, you opprobrious fcukwit?
Oh aye, back to the beautifully posed question...
What am I laughing at? You. I find anyone who wishes Cisse was still at Anfield funny. What is it you'll miss? That first touch? That composure in front of goal? His fantastic desire to work hard and press? His subtle movement off the ball? :haha:
What are you laughing at, you opprobrious fcukwit?
:D :D
I thought Cisse only left on loan, therefore, technically he hasn't actually left Anfield.
Evening Kaip :D
I thought Cisse only left on loan, therefore, technically he hasn't actually left Anfield.
Well yeah but I don't think there's any chance he'll ever play for us again (thank fcuk for that); if he impresses in France, which shouldn't be too difficult for him despite his obvious limitations, it'll become a permanent move.
Well yeah but I don't think there's any chance he'll ever play for us again (thank fcuk for that); if he impresses in France, which shouldn't be too difficult for him despite his obvious limitations, it'll become a permanent move.
Only a bad run on injuries (God forbid) could see him returning to play for us as far as I can see.
I won't be sad to see him leave, he will never fit in with Rafa's plans so in my opinion it is more sad to see the lad frustrated on the bench. He has made 2 decent contributions to Rafa's 2 tournament victories, as part of the Istanbul winning team he deserves respect for what he's achieved ; but his time is up and it will be better for all concerned if he does move on permanently.
Only a bad run on injuries (God forbid) could see him returning to play for us as far as I can see.
I won't be sad to see him leave, he will never fit in with Rafa's plans so in my opinion it is more sad to see the lad frustrated on the bench. He has made 2 decent contributions to Rafa's 2 tournament victories, as part of the Istanbul winning team he deserves respect for what he's achieved ; but his time is up and it will be better for all concerned if he does move on permanently.
Agreed. Don't get me wrong, I was desperate for him to succeed and felt very very sorry for him on both occasions he broke his leg. I liked him a lot...for a bit.
Unfortunately Cisse talks a good game but that's where it ends. He talked of being oh so passionate about the club, but then put in some of the laziest performances ever seen from a Liverpool number nine. Ally that to the fact he can't control a football and has less composure than a 40 year old virgin in a brothel, then it was never gonna work for him.
I wish him luck in France though.
stevenage_kop
03-08-06, 06:44 PM
i wish mcmanaman never left. his mazey runs were awsome.
i will never forget his goal against celtic.....true genius.
also wish robbie didnt leave.....but hey hes back now :)
murder_inc
03-08-06, 09:10 PM
I remember cyring when Craig Johnston left to look after his sick sister, although i was about 9 when he went.
I wish Aldo never left. Not as skilled as beardo and Barnsey and not as fast as Rushie if i remember correctly but he was fucking lethal in front of goal.
Love his Radio City commentary stuff as well. Fucking Class.
El Jefecito
03-08-06, 09:35 PM
Souness. Greatest midfielder we ever had. Never really replaced him. How could you. Stevie G is the last chance, if you ask me.
madstock
03-08-06, 09:37 PM
McManaman, as we have still not replaced him (although I reckon that Pennant may well finally be the answer).
Gary Gillespie, as it was all downhill from then on :sigh:
El Jefecito
03-08-06, 09:40 PM
McManaman, as we have still not replaced him (although I reckon that Pennant may well finally be the answer).
Gary Gillespie, as it was all downhill from then on :sigh:
From what I have seen of Pennant in pre-season. It's a done deal. The ghost of mcmoneyman is laid to rest.
FoxForceFive
03-08-06, 10:22 PM
All of the obvious choices have been mentioned, so I'll pull one out of left field.
Gary Mac. *resists temptation to start singing*
Legend, & I truly believe that he would have helped us being an 'old head' even in his advanced years.
Yes Gary Mac is a good call. Such a shame he couldn't have stayed on even in a coaching capacity. He has so much to give back to the game, I'd love to see him at Melwood, even as a youth team coach one day. I think he'll make a top class manager one day, Scotsmen seem to do that. In terms of experience, professionalism, attitude, technique, fitness and mentality there are few better in my opinion.
Sprouty
03-08-06, 10:56 PM
I always thought Partridge would do well, and was surprised when he left.. Shame its not happened for him anywhere else either.
I always thought Partridge would do well, and was surprised when he left.. Shame its not happened for him anywhere else either.
Aye. John Welsh was another disappointment. Anyone know if he's doing the business for Hull?
darkstar
04-08-06, 01:14 AM
john newby was another disappointment.
McManaman, as we have still not replaced him (although I reckon that Pennant may well finally be the answer).
Gary Gillespie, as it was all downhill from then on :sigh:
Sure, THAT goal against Celtic in the UEFA cup was my highlight of the evans era.
"Ping it, Ping it, Pint it - just effing PING IT - GGGGGEEEEEEEETTTTTTTTTTIIIIIINNNNNNNN, YOOOOOOUUUUU FFFFFFFF###########IIIIIIIIIIINNNNGGGG BEAUTTTYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!
Beer, peanuts and coal bucket everywhere... I remember cleaning coal dust off my mum's venetian blinds before she got home. Geez how long ago was that!
Welhung
04-08-06, 01:25 AM
Was sad to see David Thompson go. He was a really good player. Local and not afraid to get stuck in. Macca leaving was really dissapointing, but I was more dissapionted with him than anything else (I hate Madrid).
But the hardest guy to see leave was Robbie. I just couldn't believe it. I worked with a guy who was a mad Leeds supporter. He was giving me stick about it for ages. It just wasn't the same watching the team play without him there.
As for Jari, he also never should have left. A class player who wasn't given a decent chance.
I'm not sorry Owen left. He was getting too big for his boots. Don't want to see him back either.
Oh, Cisse has the football brain of an eleven year old.
Tactically one of the worst footballers (at a so-called high level) that i've ever seen.
Truly terrible, every time i seen him on a pepsi stylee ad i cracked up in-cre-eble
:o
MrMichael
04-08-06, 02:05 AM
Mostly obvious ones really, Peter Beardsley played football the way it should be played, should've stayed forever. Steve Staunton... we went on to have a series of Dicks and Bjornebyes, not good.
Can I make a shout for Rob Jones though, I know it was really an injury retirement not a premature departure but he was the best right back England never really had.
Anelka, if we had got him instead of Diouf it could of been very different. He started a bit slow but once he settled he started playing some great Football.
That 3-0 demolition of Newcastle @ Anfield with him in the side is a performance I will never forget. We were on simply magical that night.
Peter Delvechio
04-08-06, 06:06 AM
There were quite a few I was sorry to see go but who subsequently did very little elsewhere.
I was gutted when Babbel left because I sooooo hoped he could be like the old Babbel again.
I was gutted when Keegan left ... where did he go Hamburg or something ! SHould have stayed ..
nebbers
04-08-06, 08:17 AM
Igor / McCallister / Barraghan
Oh aye, back to the beautifully posed question...
What am I laughing at? You. I find anyone who wishes Cisse was still at Anfield funny. What is it you'll miss? That first touch? That composure in front of goal? His fantastic desire to work hard and press? His subtle movement off the ball? :haha:
His goals.
More goals than Crouch in less games, from a wide position. And spare me the 'yeah but it was against shite opposition' boreathon. He outscored Crouch in the Champions League proper, in the League, and in total.
Wear it.
Jack D Rips
04-08-06, 08:55 AM
I was gutted when Keegan left ... where did he go Hamburg or something ! SHould have stayed ..
Keegan for me too.(Hamburg). Although we did buy a fella called Kenny when he left
El Diego
04-08-06, 09:10 AM
For me it had to be Collymore, Fowler, Barnes, McManaman I really wanted them to stay. Also I think I will be disappointed when Hammill leaves as I don't think Rafa likes what he did when he got subbed against Man City in the final of the youth cup
His goals.
More goals than Crouch in less games, from a wide position. And spare me the 'yeah but it was against shite opposition' boreathon. He outscored Crouch in the Champions League proper, in the League, and in total.
Wear it.
Compare Premiership and goals in important competitions and you'll find a very different story. Not to mention the overall contribution Crouch makes to the whole team. It COMPLETELY over shadows Cisse contribution to the team which was in fact very minimal.
As i've said before, Crouch started off slowly but once he got his first you'll find from that point his goals to games ratio was actually very good.
Put a list up of their goals then, and we'll compare and contrast.
Methinks you're talking bollox y'see.
Peter Crouch:
8 league goals
3 FA Cup goals
Djibril Cisse:
9 league goals
2 FA Cup goals
Even, so now look at the contribution each makes to the team in general. Crouch is FAR more important in terms of contributing to the team in terms of assists and his link up play.
Also by my calculations (may be a little off), it took Crouch 19 games to score for us and many could see he struggled a lot with confidence.
So his goal scoring ratio after that was pretty good for a player who will never be an out and out goal scorer.
brendan
04-08-06, 09:40 AM
Peter Crouch:
8 league goals
3 FA Cup goals
Djibril Cisse:
9 league goals
2 FA Cup goals
Even, so now look at the contribution each makes to the team in general. Crouch is FAR more important in terms of contributing to the team in terms of assists and his link up play.
Also by my calculations (may be a little off), it took Crouch 19 games to score for us and many could see he struggled a lot with confidence.
So his goal scoring ratio after that was pretty good for a player who will never be an out and out goal scorer.
Djibril played less games than Rodders, and even fewer as a striker. And STILL scored more goals. And I could have sworn he banged ina few in Europe, which you appear to have ignored.
In any case, this fucking bollox about his form after he went 19 games without scoring is just incredible. Are you implying that it should be *ignored* that he didn't score until after Xmas?
Peter Crouch:
8 league goals
3 FA Cup goals
Djibril Cisse:
9 league goals
2 FA Cup goals
Even, so now look at the contribution each makes to the team in general. Crouch is FAR more important in terms of contributing to the team in terms of assists and his link up play.
Also by my calculations (may be a little off), it took Crouch 19 games to score for us and many could see he struggled a lot with confidence.
So his goal scoring ratio after that was pretty good for a player who will never be an out and out goal scorer.
Backtracking I see.
It was you who claimed... "Compare Premiership and goals in important competitions and you'll find a very different story"
Any chance you could do that for me, like a good lad?
And while you're at it - Could you stick in Champions League goals too, Shouldn't take you too long, cos Crouch didn't fcuking get any.
anfieldanfield
04-08-06, 09:42 AM
Peter Crouch:
8 league goals
3 FA Cup goals
Djibril Cisse:
9 league goals
2 FA Cup goals
Even, so now look at the contribution each makes to the team in general. Crouch is FAR more important in terms of contributing to the team in terms of assists and his link up play.
Also by my calculations (may be a little off), it took Crouch 19 games to score for us and many could see he struggled a lot with confidence.
So his goal scoring ratio after that was pretty good for a player who will never be an out and out goal scorer.
How on earth does that support your argument ?
Ah well, Benitez must've got it completely wrong when he bombed Cisse out. Ryan had better go and tell him he's made a mistake and kept the wrong striker. :haha:
brendan
04-08-06, 10:12 AM
Ah well, Benitez must've got it completely wrong when he bombed Cisse out. Ryan had better go and tell him he's made a mistake and kept the wrong striker. :haha:
This rather dim, giggly post has one flaw: it presumes that Rafael Benitez has never made a mistake ever.
Do? You? See?
Also I think I will be disappointed when Hammill leaves as I don't think Rafa likes what he did when he got subbed against Man City in the final of the youth cup
What did he do?
murder_inc
04-08-06, 10:14 AM
i see were back to slagging players off again from the ussual suspects.
Were are the mods when you need them. :miffed:
Brendan, Crouch is Crouch not Rodders, l-u-r-c-h or any other names you decide to call him. A lot of us here actually like and rate Crouchie so spare us the derogatory name calling please mate. :handshake:
Ah well, Benitez must've got it completely wrong when he bombed Cisse out. Ryan had better go and tell him he's made a mistake and kept the wrong striker. :haha:
Rafa also felt...
Fernando Morientes was worth £6.5M, and...
Josemi would replace Steve Finnan, and...
Mauricio Pellegrino was good enough to replace Sami Hyypia, and worthy of a year-and-a-half contract, and...
Djimi Traore should be offered a 4-year contract.
He makes mistakes Dilbert, like the one you made when enetering into this discussion armed with nothing but your monotone wit, and a few fcukin "haha's"...
NEXT!
brendan
04-08-06, 10:16 AM
i see were back to slagging players off again from the ussual suspects.
Were are the mods when you need them. :miffed:
Brendan, Crouch is Crouch not Rodders, l-u-r-c-h or any other names you decide to call him. A lot of us here actually like and rate Crouchie so spare us the derogatory name calling please mate. :handshake:
It isn't derogatory.
Thats one player I was glad to see the back off!
I was quite sad to see Murphy go. Thought it might have been worth keeping him for another year. I know some people never liked him but he was pretty effective even though he wasn't spectacular and he was always worth having in the squad.
murder_inc
04-08-06, 10:24 AM
Hey Ryan, i thought you were warned by the mods.
Keep it up with the hostile remarks my friend, you will soon have to go back to kacktalk with your hat in hand begging to be let back in because every forum on here has got your numbers and wont let you in, then you will have a very hard time because you can't be hostile in the real world because you will get your face mashed.
So please calm the fuck down lad it is getting tiresome and boring and putting people off posting in here.
Hey Ryan, i thought you were warned by the mods.
Keep it up with the hostile remarks my friend, you will soon have to go back to kacktalk with your hat in hand begging to be let back in because every forum on here has got your numbers and wont let you in, then you will have a very hard time because you can't be hostile in the real world because you will get your face mashed.
So please calm the fuck down lad it is getting tiresome and boring and putting people off posting in here.
I have to read the majority of your posts through the gaps in between my fingers.
Ity's cringeworthy how bad you are at this.
murder_inc
04-08-06, 10:28 AM
ok Bren, i took it like that mate. soz.
Anyway, who were you sad to see go and why? You started the thread kidder, contribute :cool:
:rock: :rock: :rock:
murder_inc
04-08-06, 10:29 AM
well put me on ignore and you wont have to. your going on my list as well as a complaint to the mods.
cya.
Rafa also felt...
Fernando Morientes was worth £6.5M, and...
Josemi would replace Steve Finnan, and...
Mauricio Pellegrino was good enough to replace Sami Hyypia, and worthy of a year-and-a-half contract, and...
Djimi Traore should be offered a 4-year contract.
He makes mistakes Dilbert, like the one you made when enetering into this discussion armed with nothing but your monotone wit, and a few fcukin "haha's"...
NEXT!
Yes and Benitez quickly realises when he's made a mistake, and wastes no time rectifying it.
Yet Crouch is still at the club and will be for some time. Does that tell you something?
Next!
brendan
04-08-06, 10:33 AM
Hey Ryan, i thought you were warned by the mods.
Keep it up with the hostile remarks my friend, you will soon have to go back to kacktalk with your hat in hand begging to be let back in because every forum on here has got your numbers and wont let you in, then you will have a very hard time because you can't be hostile in the real world because you will get your face mashed.
So please calm the fuck down lad it is getting tiresome and boring and putting people off posting in here.
Hahaha. I don't think anyone has forgotten the fabulously deranged and splenetic rant that you posted on here recently and had to apologise for. Wind your neck in.
Peter Delvechio
04-08-06, 10:33 AM
How in hell do you know how long he's going to be with the club?
Are you Dunk or something?
Can we keep it on discussion and not start with a slanging match please!!! :)
Respect people's opinions - and maybe, just maybe agree to disagree.
Neuklon
04-08-06, 10:37 AM
Anelka. Could have cried when we released Nic but kept friggin Heskey.
Also I'd have kept Murphy.
Going back I'd have not sold Peter Beardsley.
How in hell do you know how long he's going to be with the club?
Are you Dunk or something?
The most pertinent point I made was that he is still at the club - how do you explain that one then? Of the mistakes you listed made by Benitez, they have all been rectified bar the continued presence of Djimi Traore - although as we all know he's been told he can leave...making it a clean sweep.
So?
Hahaha. I don't think anyone has forgotten the fabulously deranged and splenetic rant that you posted on here recently and had to apologise for. Wind your neck in.
Exactly what I was thinking.
Although I think I admired him a touch more during his temper-fuelled "You're a wanker" rants than I did when trawling through his snivelling, grovelling "lets be friends" apologies...
Rafa also felt...
Fernando Morientes was worth £6.5M, and...
Josemi would replace Steve Finnan, and...
Mauricio Pellegrino was good enough to replace Sami Hyypia, and worthy of a year-and-a-half contract, and...
Djimi Traore should be offered a 4-year contract.
He makes mistakes Dilbert, like the one you made when enetering into this discussion armed with nothing but your monotone wit, and a few fcukin "haha's"...
NEXT!
Morientes was worth the £6.3m transfer fee, he was an established striker that had played at the top level for several years - sadly never got to grips with the EPL. Rafa saw this, and shipped him back to Spain pronto.
Josemi - started off well, had had some good reviews from his time in Malaga and I remember reading he was knocking on the door of the Spanish squad. We bought him for £2m, and then swapped him for a better player in Kromkamp. I'd say that was a success by Rafa.
Pellegrino - helped with the zonal marking and also gave Hyypia a rest before big European games - which must have helped our cause in those games. Yes, his legs were gone and thankfully he never signed that 18month contract, however, I don't look at his time at the club as a failure.
Djimi Traore - I have no comment about this one - truly a strange decision.... :handshake: I bet we'd cry if we knew what he was earning a week too...
Can we keep it on discussion and not start with a slanging match please!!! :)
Respect people's opinions - and maybe, just maybe agree to disagree.
Not everyone will agree with each other's opinions, thats life, shit happens.
If anyone disagrees with a comment try and argue it properly with valid points etc rather than just dismissing/abusing each other like what happens in playgrounds all over the country. If you don't like what someone says and can't debate/argue reasonably, just ignore the post. It's not difficult.
:handshake:
Peter Delvechio
04-08-06, 10:46 AM
The most pertinent point I made was that he is still at the club - how do you explain that one then? Of the mistakes you listed made by Benitez, they have all been rectified bar the continued presence of Djimi Traore - although as we all know he's been told he can leave...making it a clean sweep.
So?
So, I think he's still at the club for any number of reasons.
1. Rafa is going to give him one more season to prove he can also score goals regularly.
2. Rafa feels that he wouldn't generate enough funds from the sale to fund a replacement.
3. Rafa is as blind to his limitations as many of my fellow fans are.
I don't know if it's any of these, all of them or something else. What I do know is that you don't know how long he'll be at the club.
Rumsfeld would call it "a known unknown".
So, I think he's still at the club for any number of reasons.
1. Rafa is going to give him one more season to prove he can also score goals regularly.
2. Rafa feels that he wouldn't generate enough funds from the sale to fund a replacement.
3. Rafa is as blind to his limitations as many of my fellow fans are.
I don't know if it's any of these, all of them or something else. What I do know is that you don't know how long he'll be at the club.
Rumsfeld would call it "a known unknown".
At last, someone who can debate matters without acting like a jumped up kid in a playground.
Correct, I don't know how long he'll be at the club but I'd bet good money he'll be here for a while yet.
Also, people will have differing views on what is an acceptable amount of goals for Crouch to score. Personally, if he scores 15 league goals this season I'll be happy with him.
brendan
04-08-06, 10:54 AM
At last, someone who can debate matters without acting like a jumped up kid in a playground.
*collapses under incredible weight of irony*
Also, people will have differing views on what is an acceptable amount of goals for Crouch to score. Personally, if he scores 15 league goals this season I'll be happy with him.
If Rodders scores 15 Premiership goals this season, I will eat my big, fucking metaphorical hat.
*collapses under incredible weight of irony*
If Rodders scores 15 Premiership goals this season, I will eat my big, fucking metaphorical hat.
Can we save this post? ;)
...not that Crouch is going to net 15 league goals, mind. :o :D
slartibartfast
04-08-06, 11:01 AM
The most pertinent point I made was that he is still at the club - how do you explain that one then? Of the mistakes you listed made by Benitez, they have all been rectified bar the continued presence of Djimi Traore - although as we all know he's been told he can leave...making it a clean sweep.
So?
I think he'd have also be leaving for nothing if we hadn't renewed his contract. Not that we'll get much for him anyway but it's better than a kick in the dick. Also we weren't in a position to replace him last year.
Can we save this post? ;)
...not that Crouch is going to net 15 league goals, mind. :o :D
Crouch is more than capable of scoring 15 league goals. He did it for Southampton. He needs to make sure he has none of these ludicrous barren spells of 7, 8 games or more without a goal. If he can do that, he should end the season around the 15 goal mark.
Crouch is more than capable of scoring 15 league goals. He did it for Southampton. He needs to make sure he has none of these ludicrous barren spells of 7, 8 games or more without a goal. If he can do that, he should end the season around the 15 goal mark.
Way to dress it up Dilbert!
Try 17, 18, 19 games when referring to Crouchie's "barren spells"...
brendan
04-08-06, 11:03 AM
Crouch is more than capable of scoring 15 league goals. He did it for Southampton.
No he didn't.
Next.
Crouch is more than capable of scoring 15 league goals. He did it for Southampton. He needs to make sure he has none of these ludicrous barren spells of 7, 8 games or more without a goal. If he can do that, he should end the season around the 15 goal mark.
I do admire Crouch, and I believe he can be an effective player. I'm just not convinced he can score consistantly. Mind you, I hope I'm wrong.
I don't even think Rafa will have given Crouch a 15 league goal target either - it's my opinion that each striker (assuming there are four strikers) will be given a 15 goal target. Along with Gerrard who can also hit the 15 goal mark, we'll have 75 goals. Add in all the other usual and unusual suspects and we'll be hitting 100 goals or thereabouts - which, with our defence, should be enough for us to get close in all competitions.
No he didn't.
Next.
Pedantic. 12 in 18 starts then, or whatever it was. The point is he's capable of it.
brendan
04-08-06, 11:08 AM
Pedantic. 12 in 18 starts then, or whatever it was. The point is he's capable of it.
Not pedantic at all.
You said he scored 15 Premiership goals for Southampton. He didn't.
Hamburger FC.
He came back the following season - some european match and we stuffed them 5-0, my great uncle liam took me to that match everyone was singing "you should have stayed at anfield". We absolutely murdered them.
Hi Tom,
Was that meant for this thread!!! :)
Not pedantic at all.
You said he scored 15 Premiership goals for Southampton. He didn't.
12 goals in 18 starts suggests he's capable of scoring 15 goals over the course of an entire season, that is all.
Frankly, I couldn't care less how many goals he scores so long as we get closer to Chelsea, or win it, and win another trophy. I think he contributes and I think he'll continue to do so. Some obviously don't. Hey ho.
Jack D Rips
04-08-06, 11:36 AM
Hi Tom,
Was that meant for this thread!!! :)
Yeh. Its in answer to a question months ago before the row started:D
murder_inc
04-08-06, 11:45 AM
Hahaha. I don't think anyone has forgotten the fabulously deranged and splenetic rant that you posted on here recently and had to apologise for. Wind your neck in.
Actually Brendan i think you will find i didnt have to do anything.
I am actually man enough to appologise when i am in the wrong and i was in the wrong. I went too far so i appologised, what is wrong with that? I wasnt "made to appologise" or "had to appologise", you can verify this from mrmichael if you want(which i dont really think you do so whats the point).
I will not however, appologise for my passion for Liverpool Football Club and its players, coaches, staff, tea lady etc etc. So if i seem a little ott when it comes to defending them well, tough shit. Thats me.
I, like you im sure have seen this club go from the very top under paisley, fagan and kenny (i dont remember shanks, im only 28) to mediocracy under souey and the great football at times under Evans to the boring but effective Houllier to Rafa and the CL win. Its been one hell of a ride and i dont regret supporting LFC one little bit. So with you telling me to wind my neck in, why the fuck should i? If you call my wife a fat slag or say my kids are ugly would you expect me to agree with you or throw everything i have at you? This club comes second in my life to my wife and kids so i will defend it with all i have.
And btw Brendan, i have no beef with you so why are interfering?
Actually Brendan i think you will find i didnt have to do anything.
I am actually man enough to appologise when i am in the wrong and i was in the wrong. I went too far so i appologised, what is wrong with that? I wasnt "made to appologise" or "had to appologise", you can verify this from mrmichael if you want(which i dont really think you do so whats the point).
I will not however, appologise for my passion for Liverpool Football Club and its players, coaches, staff, tea lady etc etc. So if i seem a little ott when it comes to defending them well, tough shit. Thats me.
I, like you im sure have seen this club go from the very top under paisley, fagan and kenny (i dont remember shanks, im only 28) to mediocracy under souey and the great football at times under Evans to the boring but effective Houllier to Rafa and the CL win. Its been one hell of a ride and i dont regret supporting LFC one little bit. So with you telling me to wind my neck in, why the fuck should i? If you call my wife a fat slag or say my kids are ugly would you expect me to agree with you or throw everything i have at you? This club comes second in my life to my wife and kids so i will defend it with all i have.
And btw Brendan, i have no beef with you so why are interfering?
Great post. The problem with Internet fora is that too many so-called Reds only show the same level of passion against, rather than for, the club. Criticism is one thing, getting high on, and addicted to, negativity is another.
Actually Brendan i think you will find i didnt have to do anything.
I am actually man enough to appologise when i am in the wrong and i was in the wrong. I went too far so i appologised, what is wrong with that? I wasnt "made to appologise" or "had to appologise", you can verify this from mrmichael if you want(which i dont really think you do so whats the point).
I will not however, appologise for my passion for Liverpool Football Club and its players, coaches, staff, tea lady etc etc. So if i seem a little ott when it comes to defending them well, tough shit. Thats me.
I, like you im sure have seen this club go from the very top under paisley, fagan and kenny (i dont remember shanks, im only 28) to mediocracy under souey and the great football at times under Evans to the boring but effective Houllier to Rafa and the CL win. Its been one hell of a ride and i dont regret supporting LFC one little bit. So with you telling me to wind my neck in, why the fuck should i? If you call my wife a fat slag or say my kids are ugly would you expect me to agree with you or throw everything i have at you? This club comes second in my life to my wife and kids so i will defend it with all i have.
And btw Brendan, i have no beef with you so why are interfering?
Some people can take Brendan at face value, even to the point of being slightly amused. I suggest you on the otherhand dont reply to his personal tirades. It'll get you nowhere - its all differing personalities mate. :handshake:
3. Rafa is as blind to his limitations as many of my fellow fans are.
Or alternatively he believes that the things he bring are enough to justify his place in the team. Crouch has limitations but I have yet to see anyone suggest a replacement who doesn't. Therefore Crouch remains here because he is the best option.
anfieldanfield
04-08-06, 03:08 PM
Actually Brendan i think you will find i didnt have to do anything.
I am actually man enough to appologise when i am in the wrong and i was in the wrong. I went too far so i appologised, what is wrong with that? I wasnt "made to appologise" or "had to appologise", you can verify this from mrmichael if you want(which i dont really think you do so whats the point).
I will not however, appologise for my passion for Liverpool Football Club and its players, coaches, staff, tea lady etc etc. So if i seem a little ott when it comes to defending them well, tough shit. Thats me.
I, like you im sure have seen this club go from the very top under paisley, fagan and kenny (i dont remember shanks, im only 28) to mediocracy under souey and the great football at times under Evans to the boring but effective Houllier to Rafa and the CL win. Its been one hell of a ride and i dont regret supporting LFC one little bit. So with you telling me to wind my neck in, why the fuck should i? If you call my wife a fat slag or say my kids are ugly would you expect me to agree with you or throw everything i have at you? This club comes second in my life to my wife and kids so i will defend it with all i have.
And btw Brendan, i have no beef with you so why are interfering?
I've gone to the trouble of putting the most cringey bits of this woefully scattered car crash of a post, in bold, to save everyone some time.
I've gone to the trouble of putting the most cringey bits of this woefully scattered car crash of a post, in bold, to save everyone some time.
My my, you bitches are having a field day aren't you?
Seriously, if you are just going to post to have a bitch about another poster - or are attempting to get a rise out of somebody - just don't bother. It's tedious and dull.
Leonard Crowley
04-08-06, 03:49 PM
Nothing is so beautiful as spring
When weeds in wheels shoot long and lovely and lush
anfieldanfield
04-08-06, 03:50 PM
Nothing is so beautiful as spring
When weeds in wheels shoot long and lovely and lush
Skullflower ?
Nothing is so beautiful as spring
When weeds in wheels shoot long and lovely and lush
i concur
Leonard Crowley
04-08-06, 03:53 PM
Thrush's eggs look little low heavens, and thrush
Through the echoing timber does so rinse and wring
The ear, it strikes like lightnings to hear him sing
sppuuddy
04-08-06, 04:04 PM
Back to the topic, what about good ole Sean Dundee the only man to never put a foot wrong for us, i can never remember him having a bad game for us. An absolute legend:rolleyes:
Leonard Crowley
04-08-06, 04:08 PM
This website is in the spring of its life-cycle and it's pretty and raw and gauche. I'm in love.
murder_inc
04-08-06, 06:41 PM
I've gone to the trouble of putting the most cringey bits of this woefully scattered car crash of a post, in bold, to save everyone some time.
Know one asked you "jamo".
At least im not a sad twat who goes around claiming im David Fucking James. Old butterfingers if there ever was one and an arrogant cock weasel to boot, and dont deny it you sad lonely fruit cake.
Now go crawl back under your stone "Jamo" :haha: :haha:
Jan-Erik
04-08-06, 06:49 PM
Easy...Fowler.
Leonard Crowley
04-08-06, 08:04 PM
Know one asked you "jamo".
At least im not a sad twat who goes around claiming im David Fucking James. Old butterfingers if there ever was one and an arrogant cock weasel to boot, and dont deny it you sad lonely fruit cake.
Now go crawl back under your stone "Jamo" :haha: :haha:
As a newcomer, can I be forgiven for seeking clarification on whether this sort of post is allowed?
I hope it is.
Le Chacal
04-08-06, 08:12 PM
You're right Leo, it shouldnt be allowed...You can report it to mods...I cant be arsed...
Leonard Crowley
04-08-06, 08:24 PM
Le Chacal,
Setting aside the fact that you're simply too central-European to understand most of what's being said here - don't you have a cuckoo clock to fix or some yodelling to do?
Y'know... the change to a new forum could be an opportunity for you to be a little less tiresome and vapid.
murder_inc
04-08-06, 09:33 PM
hey lenny, i like you already mate.
Welcome. :handshake:
anfieldanfield
04-08-06, 10:53 PM
Know one asked you "jamo".
At least im not a sad twat who goes around claiming im David Fucking James. Old butterfingers if there ever was one and an arrogant cock weasel to boot, and dont deny it you sad lonely fruit cake.
Now go crawl back under your stone "Jamo" :haha: :haha:
Two posters were 'suspended' today for much, much less than this.
Leonard Crowley
04-08-06, 11:04 PM
Who? Who?
murder_inc
05-08-06, 12:55 AM
but im sorry "jamo" if you cant take it, dont dish it out. Its as simple as that mate. Don't insult me, and i wont insult you. Quite fair really and seen as how you were mocking my post i decided to mock someone who claimed he was the real "jamo" then got caught out on a rather large lie if i recall.
murder_inc
05-08-06, 12:57 AM
anyway "jamo" im here to talk about LFC not bitch so stop it with your snidey comments and we will get on famously.
MrMichael
05-08-06, 01:18 AM
Two posters were 'suspended' today for much, much less than this.
They haven't been suspended, they've been yellow carded, which means pre-moderation of their posts will take place for a limited period. This has been done for consistently aggressive and repetatively deliberate shit-stirring over the entire course of the time they have been here, not an isolated post or two. Both were sin-binned previously for such posting, and have continued apace IMO, this is a LFc forum not a zoo, and we're not having good posters leave in their droves because 2 poeple want to swagger about here having a pop at everyone who crosses their path. Please see, and comment on, the proposed "common sense guideline" in the feedback forum
Murder Inc, consider yourself duely slapped for the post above. You don't want to end up in the sin bin with only its regular occupants (and Scully) to talk to do you? :haha:
murder_inc
05-08-06, 01:46 AM
fair do's mm.
Duelly slapped? is that like two slaps btw? :D :D
MrMichael
05-08-06, 02:06 AM
No way, you might start to like it if I do it too often :D :crackoff:
saveferris
05-08-06, 03:26 AM
In hindsight Mark Wright was a loss to the team as we had a a period when we had costly defenders who didnt play as well as they could have. I dont think he was properly replaced until Sami and Stephane Henchoz came.
Despite the circumstances and rumours around his departure I think Michael Owen's departure was a great loss. Hopefully we can have a striker this season who can hit the net with regularity than he did.
univofchicago
05-08-06, 03:44 AM
In hindsight Mark Wright was a loss to the team as we had a a period when we had costly defenders who didnt play as well as they could have. I dont think he was properly replaced until Sami and Stephane Henchoz came.
I think we let go because of his injuries. By the 1997/98 season, injuries had taken its toll and, as much as Evans valued the player, it was impossible to expect him to play regularly.
My pick would be: 1) Beardsley 2) McManaman 3) Camara 4) Aldridge 5) Hamann
------yellow cards, who got carded earlier,sorry missed that?
murder_inc
05-08-06, 10:48 AM
brendan and ryan i think Tom.
Le Chacal
05-08-06, 02:58 PM
Le Chacal,
Setting aside the fact that you're simply too central-European to understand most of what's being said here - don't you have a cuckoo clock to fix or some yodelling to do?
Y'know... the change to a new forum could be an opportunity for you to be a little less tiresome and vapid.
talk about football and LFC young boy, I have a lot to teach you in these areas....
Jimmy Case left too early IMHO.
Riddler
06-08-06, 09:55 AM
Barmby for me , he was class , I could never understand why he left.
Keegan for me too.(Hamburg). Although we did buy a fella called Kenny when he left
Too true mate but I always got the nagging feeling that KK left before he'd really hit his prime for us. He'd had a great understanding with Toshack .. and I don't reckon he ever played as well again for any of his other clubs ...
Barmby for me , he was class , I could never understand why he left.
Seriously? What's he done since? Gone to Hull!
Helios Creed
06-08-06, 04:00 PM
Seriously? What's he done since? Gone to Hull!
in a handcart...
RedSwede
06-08-06, 06:13 PM
Wasn“t around in the Keegan days so I cant say him. Owen is one, Litmanen wasnt given a chance. McManaman was one of my first favourites so I was really gutted to see him leave. Always liked Stan the Man to, great talent but he had to go. And of course Didi, true legend !
Wasn“t around in the Keegan days so I cant say him. Owen is one, Litmanen wasnt given a chance. McManaman was one of my first favourites so I was really gutted to see him leave. Always liked Stan the Man to, great talent but he had to go. And of course Didi, true legend !
Thre will never be a time when it was right for Didi to go. I've seen yates and gerry byrne king kenny, tosh, keegan, in fact all the legends above (inc cally and peter thompson) since 1973 and Didi is right up there with them all.
murder_inc
07-08-06, 01:03 AM
A-fucking-men to that JRG. :handshake:
the Kaiser will be spoken about in decades to come as one of our greatest ever players. A true legend.
:rock:
brendan and ryan i think Tom.
Can't speak for Brendan, but yes I did get yellow carded.
Apparently, goading and "stirring" is frowned upon moreso than your continual hate-filled, abuse-ridden, splenetic rages.
One might think you couldn't make it up, au contraire...
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