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Cleo
04-08-06, 10:30 PM
As a Dane I'm really embarrassed about having to ask this question but...
Where is Daniel Agger??
I've been away on holiday for the last three weeks so I haven't been able to follow our preseason closely but I still seem to have spotted that he hasn't taken part in any of the friendlies?!?!

kurtangle01
04-08-06, 10:32 PM
i've been thinking the same thing myself.

injured, again!?

or simply not rated as highly as first thought?

TheStig
04-08-06, 10:33 PM
When others have asked this question (on KT) the response has always been that he's injured. We haven't been told anything about it though.

anfieldanfield
04-08-06, 10:33 PM
Injured.

Cleo
04-08-06, 10:40 PM
Injured.

Thanks for the replies...
He took part in the U21 European Championships and now I seem to remember something about him not being fully fit but still making himself avaliable for selection at LFC at the end of the season because he wanted to play and show his worth
It's been discussed a lot of times but it's gonna be really interesting to see how Rafa's going to use Carragher, Hyypia, Paletta and Agger this season

kurtangle01
04-08-06, 10:42 PM
Thanks for the replies...
He took part in the U21 European Championships and now I seem to remember something about him not being fully fit but still making himself avaliable for selection at LFC at the end of the season because he wanted to play and show his worth
It's been discussed a lot of times but it's gonna be really interesting to see how Rafa's going to use Carragher, Hyypia, Paletta and Agger this season


with tonights defensive display under our belts i'm sure rafa has a lot to tink about in regards to the defence!

Jan-Erik
04-08-06, 10:46 PM
According to Liverpool.no, Agger has been injured, but is now back in training. Before today's game, they even suggested he might get a few minutes on the pitch.

Cleo
04-08-06, 10:50 PM
with tonights defensive display under our belts i'm sure rafa has a lot to tink about in regards to the defence!

Yeah - it looks that way :shake:

By the way - regarding your first post and the rating of him...
Perhaps he's fallen down the pecking order but that can only be due to all his injuries.
Having seen him in the Danish league and on our national team I still really pleased that we got him and I have all the confidence in the world that he'll come good - he's got the right attitude, is humble and wants to win!!!

And by the way - I haven't seen Paletta play one minute of football yet but the positive reviews of his start has actually made the summer for me.
First Momo, then Gonzalez and now him - hopefully we're back on track in regards to finding young talent

kurtangle01
04-08-06, 10:59 PM
Yeah - it looks that way :shake:

By the way - regarding your first post and the rating of him...
Perhaps he's fallen down the pecking order but that can only be due to all his injuries.
Having seen him in the Danish league and on our national team I still really pleased that we got him and I have all the confidence in the world that he'll come good - he's got the right attitude, is humble and wants to win!!!

And by the way - I haven't seen Paletta play one minute of football yet but the positive reviews of his start has actually made the summer for me.
First Momo, then Gonzalez and now him - hopefully we're back on track in regards to finding young talent


i rate agger highly, the little i've seen of him, and palleta has looked equally as good when i've seen him.

Cleo
04-08-06, 11:00 PM
i rate agger highly, the little i've seen of him, and palleta has looked equally as good when i've seen him.

Is he fast? - that gift would bring a whole new dimension to our defense...

Jan-Erik
04-08-06, 11:02 PM
Paletta has looked good, but has done a couple of bad mistakes. Agger has also done good, and that's been in league games. Looking forward to see Paletta in the PL.

Jan-Erik
04-08-06, 11:04 PM
Is he fast? - that gift would bring a whole new dimension to our defense...


Paletta is pretty fast. And a great tackler.

kurtangle01
04-08-06, 11:07 PM
Is he fast? - that gift would bring a whole new dimension to our defense...

no he's not fast. he reminds me of sami. takes up good positions and reads the game well.

Cleo
04-08-06, 11:10 PM
Paletta is pretty fast. And a great tackler.

I knew about the last thing - heard that he almost broke a Crewe player in two with a tackle during the friendly.
I really hope he gets to play against Robben - that little cheat deserves to get hurt after all his theatrical diving!!!

Jan-Erik
04-08-06, 11:12 PM
no he's not fast. he reminds me of sami. takes up good positions and reads the game well.

From what I've seen, he looks like he's got ok pace. I wouldnt say his pace is one of his better attributes, but he's not slow. Or?

Jan-Erik
04-08-06, 11:14 PM
I knew about the last thing - heard that he almost broke a Crewe player in two with a tackle during the friendly.
I really hope he gets to play against Robben - that little cheat deserves to get hurt after all his theatrical diving!!!

That would be great, yes.:handshake:

kurtangle01
04-08-06, 11:20 PM
From what I've seen, he looks like he's got ok pace. I wouldnt say his pace is one of his better attributes, but he's not slow. Or?


to be fair he could be quick but perhaps i haven't noticed yet!:oh:

Cleo
04-08-06, 11:24 PM
to be fair he could be quick but perhaps i haven't noticed yet!:oh:

Well discussion of pace is difficult since it's always an subjective view.
And to quote Carlos Gamarra - the veteran Paraguayan defender:

"Being quick is not a question of running faster, it's a matter of getting there first. And that depends on where are you positioned"

kurtangle01
04-08-06, 11:26 PM
Well discussion of pace is difficult since it's always an subjective view.
And to quote Carlos Gamarra - the veteran Paraguayan defender:

"Being quick is not a question of running faster, it's a matter of getting there first. And that depends on where are you positioned"

that's very true mate. he does remind me of hyppia though in terms of movement etc...

Jan-Erik
04-08-06, 11:27 PM
to be fair he could be quick but perhaps i haven't noticed yet!:oh:

Well lets just say he's not slow but not quick either.

The Glove
04-08-06, 11:29 PM
Agger has shin splints apparently and they are meant to be a fucker to cure.

kurtangle01
04-08-06, 11:30 PM
Agger has shin splints apparently and they are meant to be a fucker to cure.

didn't kieron dyer have them?

Cleo
04-08-06, 11:33 PM
Agger has shin splints apparently and they are meant to be a fucker to cure.

How on earth do you get such things??

Ste M
04-08-06, 11:36 PM
I can't really add too much, bar agreeing with others in saying that he is apparently injured. Again. He was in the stands against Grasshoppers though, so he is still alive.

FowlerLeftFoot
05-08-06, 12:22 AM
Wow lucky you to have picked the right time for a holiday, and you havent missed anything!


As a Dane I'm really embarrassed about having to ask this question but...
Where is Daniel Agger??
I've been away on holiday for the last three weeks so I haven't been able to follow our preseason closely but I still seem to have spotted that he hasn't taken part in any of the friendlies?!?!

Rich
05-08-06, 12:25 AM
Isn't shin splints were the muscle detaches itself from the shin bone and is really painful when you run?

kurtangle01
05-08-06, 12:30 AM
Isn't shin splints were the muscle detaches itself from the shin bone and is really painful when you run?

yeah i think that's right. by all accounts it can be hard to cure and can take months and months of physiotherapy and other forms of treatment to cure. although i'm not sure it van be cured completely.

FowlerLeftFoot
05-08-06, 12:37 AM
Shin splints refers to pain in the anterior and medial areas of the lower leg. It is any pain below the knee, above the ankle, other than in the calf.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shin_splints

not sure if its as ugly as muscle detaches from the bone as u said it!! :D


Isn't shin splints were the muscle detaches itself from the shin bone and is really painful when you run?

Rich
05-08-06, 12:42 AM
OK, maybe I'm wrong!!! :D:D:D

SouthAfricaRed
05-08-06, 04:30 AM
Isn't shin splints were the muscle detaches itself from the shin bone and is really painful when you run?


What are shin splints?

Shin splints are injuries to the front of the outer leg. While the exact injury is not known, shin splints seem to result from inflammation from injury to the tendon (posterior peroneal tendon) and adjacent tissues in the front of the outer leg.

Shin splints represent one member of a group of injuries called "overuse injuries." Shin splints occur most commonly in runners or aggressive walkers.

What are the symptoms of shin splints?

Shin splints cause pain in the front of the outer leg below the knee. The pain of shin splints is characteristically located on the outer edge of the mid region of the leg next to the shin bone (tibia). An area of discomfort measuring 4-6 inches (10-15 cm) in length is frequently present. Pain is often noted at the early portion of the workout, then lessens only to reappear near the end of the training session. Shin splint discomfort is often described as dull at first. However, with continuing trauma, the pain can become so extreme as to cause the athlete to stop workouts altogether.

What causes shin splints?

A primary culprit causing shin splints is a sudden increase in distance or intensity of a workout schedule. This increase in muscle work can be associated with inflammation of the lower leg muscles, those muscles used in lifting the foot (the motion during which the foot pivots toward the tibia). Such a situation can be aggravated by a tendency to pronate the foot (roll it excessively inward onto the arch).

Similarly, a tight Achilles tendon or weak ankle muscles are also often implicated in the development of shin splints.

How is the are shin splints diagnosed?

The diagnosis of shin splints is usually made during examination. It depends upon a careful review of the patient's history and a focused physical exam (an exam focused on the shins and legs where local tenderness is noted).

Specialized (and costly) tests (e.g., bone scans) are generally only necessary if the diagnosis is unclear. Radiology tests, such as x-rays, bone scan or MRI scan, in this setting can be helpful to detect stress fracture of the tibia bone

How were shin splints treated?

Previously, two different treatment management strategies were used: total rest or a "run through it" approach. The total rest was often an unacceptable option to the athlete. The "run through it" approach was even worse. It often led to worsening of the injury and of the symptoms.

Currently, a multifaceted approach of "relative rest" is successfully utilized to restore the athlete to a pain-free level of competition.

What is the multifaceted "relative rest" approach?

This multifaceted approach includes:

Workouts such as stationary bicycling or pool running - these will allow maintenance of cardiovascular fitness.
Icing - to reduce inflammation.
Anti-inflammatory medications, such as ibuprofen (Advil/Motrin); naproxen (Aleve/Naprosyn) - are also a central part of rehabilitation.
A 4-inch wide Ace bandage wrapped around the region - to also help reduce discomfort.
Calf and anterior (front of) leg stretching and strengthening - to address the biomechanical problems discussed above and reduce pain.
Careful attention to selecting the correct running shoe based upon the foot type (flexible pronator vs. rigid supinator) - this is extremely important. In selected cases shoe inserts (orthotics) may be necessary.
Stretching and strengthening exercises are done twice a day.
Running - only when symptoms have generally resolved (often about 2 weeks), AND with several restrictions:
A level and soft terrain is best.
Distance is limited to 50% of that tolerated preinjury.
Intensity (pace) is similarly cut by one half.
Over a 3-6 week period, a gradual increase in distance is allowed.
Only then can a gradual increase in pace be attempted.
Caveat!

The amount of injury that occurs prior to any rehabilitation program plays a significant role in determining the time frame necessary for complete recovery.

Shin Splints At A Glance
Shin splints are a type of "overuse injury" to the legs.
The pain is characteristic and located on the outer edge of the mid region of the leg next to the shin bone (tibia). It can be extreme and halt workouts.
The diagnosis requires a careful focused examination.
A multifaceted approach of "relative rest" can restore a pain- free level of activity and a return to competition.
The "relative rest" approach includes a change in the workout, ice, rest, antiinflammation medications, stretching exercises, possible change in footwear, and gradual increase in running activities.

Hope this Helps ;)

FowlerLeftFoot
05-08-06, 05:18 AM
southafricared, have u applied for a position as physio for the club yet? :)

SouthAfricaRed
05-08-06, 05:44 AM
southafricared, have u applied for a position as physio for the club yet? :)

For The Ladies team :D

Cant wait to work with

http://www.lfcladies.net/hannah%20beard.jpg

http://www.lfcladies.net/micha%20deane.jpg

http://www.lfcladies.net/hannah%20williams.jpg

http://www.lfcladies.net/aimee%20todd.jpg

SouthAfricaRed
05-08-06, 05:45 AM
or

http://www.lfcladies.net/jade%20thomas.jpg

http://www.lfcladies.net/daniellesheen.JPG

http://www.lfcladies.net/sian%20webster.jpg

http://www.lfcladies.net/louise%20worral.jpg

http://www.lfcladies.net/jenna%20miller.jpg

FowlerLeftFoot
05-08-06, 06:23 AM
hahaha....how u wish!!!
girl in pic no.4 is gorgeous!!

scully
05-08-06, 06:59 AM
http://www.lfcladies.net/daniellesheen.JPG


She's the only one I rate out of the lot. We really do need to get some prettier ladies in our Ladies team, otherwise how can we fellows take the sport seriously?

Back to the subject (ish) though, I get shin splints and they are bloody painful, especially if you run on concrete. The pain goes all up the front of my shins and starts to feel like the bones are splitting in half length-wise. No way would I like to be a footballer with the condition, so I hope they can sort Agger out.

ronan
05-08-06, 09:54 AM
shin splints are a fucker to get rid of, i missed nearly a whole season with them one year when i was younger.turned out to be the fucking boots the club had bought us were doing the damage
its like having somebody constantly kicking you in the shins with each step you take

Cleo
05-08-06, 11:14 AM
Wow - I've just returned and wanted to see if anyone knew anything about the shin splints and I'm really impressed about the knowledge and the will to dig deep in order to find medical explanations in here...

The Glove
05-08-06, 11:35 AM
http://www.lfcladies.net/hannah%20beard.jpg Yes

http://www.lfcladies.net/micha%20deane.jpg No

http://www.lfcladies.net/hannah%20williams.jpg No

http://www.lfcladies.net/aimee%20todd.jpg Yes

The Glove
05-08-06, 11:36 AM
http://www.lfcladies.net/jade%20thomas.jpg Yes

http://www.lfcladies.net/daniellesheen.JPG Yes

http://www.lfcladies.net/sian%20webster.jpg No

http://www.lfcladies.net/louise%20worral.jpg No

http://www.lfcladies.net/jenna%20miller.jpg No

kopdan
05-08-06, 11:39 AM
Isn't shin splints were the muscle detaches itself from the shin bone and is really painful when you run?

its one of a few causes yes. It hurts like fuck trust me

Bob
05-08-06, 11:39 AM
http://www.lfcladies.net/jade%20thomas.jpg

4 was ok till i seen 5 :dribble:

In fairness good luck to you. The goalie (3) looks about twelve. Do you know what they do to kiddie-fiddlers in the clink. Under the guise of physios or not ;)

Kaip
05-08-06, 11:40 AM
yes x 11

The Glove
05-08-06, 11:40 AM
Thats Mickey Thomas' daughter. You know, the bloke that printed his own money? She must have her mothers looks.

Bob
05-08-06, 11:40 AM
wonders how brave benny will be when RH rears her head

The Glove
05-08-06, 11:41 AM
yes x 11



:haha: :haha:


What about subsitutes?

kopdan
05-08-06, 11:48 AM
http://www.lfcladies.net/jade%20thomas.jpg

4 was ok till i seen 5 :dribble:

In fairness good luck to you. The goalie (3) looks about twelve. Do you know what they do to kiddie-fiddlers in the clink. Under the guise of physios or not ;)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v611/kopdan/richt_lfc.jpg

Kaip
05-08-06, 11:50 AM
:haha: :haha:


What about subsitutes?




Are they pretty :eyebrow:

Kaip
05-08-06, 11:50 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v611/kopdan/richt_lfc.jpg




Hahaha

kurtangle01
05-08-06, 11:52 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v611/kopdan/richt_lfc.jpg

:haha: :haha:

classic!!

SouthAfricaRed
05-08-06, 11:53 AM
http://www.lfcladies.net/jade%20thomas.jpg

4 was ok till i seen 5 :dribble:

In fairness good luck to you. The goalie (3) looks about twelve. Do you know what they do to kiddie-fiddlers in the clink. Under the guise of physios or not ;)

She does look young, but will actually be 18 in Oct. The Youngest one is .......














































http://www.lfcladies.net/daniellesheen.JPG She was 16 in June this year :shake:

Shaggy
05-08-06, 11:59 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v611/kopdan/richt_lfc.jpg


:haha:

ronan
05-08-06, 12:04 PM
[QUOTE=robmccreary]http://www.lfcladies.net/jade%20thomas.jpg

she looks like that she man off big brother.

Bob
05-08-06, 12:05 PM
She does look young, but will actually be 18 in Oct. The Youngest one is .......


http://www.lfcladies.net/daniellesheen.JPG She was 16 in June this year :shake:

Bad scully - trust him.

Dan very good!

Bob
05-08-06, 12:06 PM
[QUOTE=robmccreary]she looks like that she man off big brother.

Shut up.

:crackoff:

scully
06-08-06, 08:02 AM
Bad scully - trust him.

Dan very good!

Well it's not my fault she looks 21 goddammit!

I can ban you, you know.

desertscouser
06-08-06, 08:13 AM
i've been thinking the same thing myself.

injured, again!?

or simply not rated as highly as first thought?

Agger has taken over Kirkland's mantle as the new human poppadom.

FowlerLeftFoot
06-08-06, 09:14 AM
http://www.lfcladies.net/hannah%20williams.jpg No




Sorry, a BIG YES for me. Cum'on! :crackoff:

ronan
06-08-06, 04:12 PM
[QUOTE=ronan]

Shut up.

:crackoff:


feeling a bit dirty now that you cracked one off to her/him/it/whatever :D

El Diego
06-08-06, 05:08 PM
Shin splints refers to pain in the anterior and medial areas of the lower leg. It is any pain below the knee, above the ankle, other than in the calf.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shin_splints

not sure if its as ugly as muscle detaches from the bone as u said it!! :D


I have just started to get shin splints as I run on the running machine at my gym but have changed my trainers and they seem better. The doctor told me to rest but I ignored her.

sh#t waffle
06-08-06, 06:35 PM
Was it shin splints that ended Rob Jones' career?

red g
06-08-06, 06:38 PM
Was it shin splints that ended Rob Jones' career?

yes it was, sad loss.....fantastic player.

SouthAfricaRed
06-08-06, 08:30 PM
yes it was, sad loss.....fantastic player.

No it wasn't. He had Back problems and eventually an injury to his Left Knee Ended his Career.

I agree Trigger was a Very Good Player. Sad that he never got to Fulfill his potential

Shaggy
06-08-06, 10:51 PM
I'm starting to get a little bit worried about Agger. Banter-wise, I could be "for it".

A Bluenose I've known for years (won't call him a mate, he is a tit) took a good going over from me over the 'Kroldrup affair', with Moyes on the receiving end of most of my mocking.

Naturally, he's now starting to fire back at me that "Agger is the new Kroldrup". I hope I didn't taunt too soon. :o

rebel23
06-08-06, 11:59 PM
I think Agger picked up an injury when playing for the Danes in the u21 tournament in May ?? I think that could be why he's been injured for like 12 weeks or so, I think he'll be back soon, we need cover

nothing on physioroom.com when i last looked though

univofchicago
07-08-06, 04:20 AM
Agger has shin splints apparently and they are meant to be a fucker to cure.

It is an ankle injury:

"Daniel Agger, who has missed all of Liverpool's friendlies with an ankle injury, may be given a run-out while Fabio Aurelio has a calf strain and Robbie Fowler hopes to covercome a minor knee problem."

(Liverpool Daily Post)

Sprouty
07-08-06, 05:44 AM
http://www.lfcladies.net/hannah%20williams.jpg
Sorry, a BIG YES for me. Cum'on! :crackoff:

By far the best of the lot..:crackoff:

Ryan
07-08-06, 09:04 AM
So, Daniel Agger then?