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Anyone fancy one? If enough people are up for it then say so here and we can discuss a set of rules etc. I've just seen a game on another forum and we could potentially just nab their 'system' and go with that.
Here are the rules for the aforemention comp I spotted on a Celtic forum...
It's a bit complex so any suggestions of a simpler format would be welcomed.
The competition will start on Tuesday March 13th and will finish with the final race on Friday 16th
The rules. Please read carefully
1. Each day every entrant will be allocated 600 points.
2. All your points must be allocated that day. You can’t carry any points forward.
3. You can only pick one horse in each race.
4. You don't have to pick a horse in each race but you will limited to a single bet limit of 300 points on one horse per day. If you put more than 300 pts on one horse the selection will be settled on 300 pts and you will lose anything above that stake This rule applies to all days except Friday when in quiet desperation you can put your daily allocation on one horse if you so desire and do what is now known as a 'Finner'. For the new bhoys this phrase was coined when Finnerbache came from almost last to first after staking all his 600 pts on his selection and his choice romped home to give him the Tipster prize.
5. There is also a bonus system in operation.
4-6 winners - extra 1,000pts
7-9 winners - extra 1,500pts
Over 9 winners - extra 2,000pts
6. You can back each way. The following rules will apply to each way betting.
· In races of 5 runners or less no each way backing will be allowed
· In races of 6 runners each way will apply to first 2 horses home
· In races of 8 to 15 runners each way will apply to first 3 horses home.
· In races with 16 runners or more each way will apply to first 4 horses home.
· Each way bets will be settled at 1/4 the odds.
For those that are not familiar with each way betting I've provided an example below.
You back Horse A with 100 points each way which is a total stake of 200 points
Horse A's odds are 10/1 in a 16-runner race
If Horse won you would get a return of 1450 points (1100 for win and 350 for the place)
If Horse A was 2nd, 3rd or 4th you would get a return of 350pts.
7. Only single selections allowed no multiple bets (i.e. doubles, trebles etc.)
8. NON –RUNNERS – The rule is:
Replacement selections of non-runners will be allowed until the start of the first race. After this the points staked on any non-runners will be carry on to your next selection. If you have no further selections then the points will then go onto the favourite of the race your original selection was in (If joint favourites then your points will go on lowest racecard number) . Given I could potentially mess this part up feel free to point out where this is happening to you so I pick them up.
9. Dead heat - if your horse is involved in a dead heat then it will be settled at half the stake of your selection as per betting shops rules.
10. At the end of each day you will either have a pot of winning points or zero if you haven't had any winners or placed horses.
11. Points won will not be carried forward into your points pool for the next day. So if you win 1,000 pts on the day you won't be able to use them in addition to your daily allocation.
12. The winner of the competition will be the person who has the most accumulative points at the end of the last race on Friday.
13. All selections should be entered before the first race each day. Any entries after this will not be accepted.
14. Please only post selections in this thread to make it easier for me to tally the results. If you wish to discuss the racing there will be a separate thread.
15. Please no spoilers there will be separate thread for discussing results.
Entries should appear like so including the gaps.
1.20 Your selection 100pts
1.55 Your selection 50pts
2.30 No selection
3.05 Your selection 100 pts EW = 200pts
3.40 Your selection 50pts
4.15 Your selection 200pts
Any problems or anything you don’t understand PM me and I’ll try and sort it out.
Cheers and good luck.
Jayesh87
12-03-07, 05:19 PM
Hi Shaggy :handshake:
Er, hi Milky. You up for a tipping comp?
Jayesh87
12-03-07, 05:21 PM
Sure, what do i have to do?
Great idea mate - I'm up for it (if I get the time to post my selections in here)!
Jayesh87
12-03-07, 06:00 PM
2.00- Granit Jack: 100pts
2.35- Don't push it: 100pts
3:15- Brave Inca: 100pts each way = 200pts
4.00- Juveigneur: 50pts each way= 100 pts
4.40- Spot Thedifference: 100pts
5:20- No Selection
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Did i do thhat right?
Did i pick decent horses :confused: :confused:
:rock:
Well at this stage there'll be no comp - not for three people! :haha:
Jayesh87
12-03-07, 08:29 PM
I win then :handshake:
I win then :handshake:
Congrats mate on winning before the bloomin thing got off the ground! :haha: :handshake:
I'm still interested if it's a goer mate!
Aye, we'll see by about mid-morning tomorrow. If there's no more than, I dunno, say about 10, then there's little point. No worries either way, but I do love a good tipping contest. :rock:
I doubt even 10 people frequent the gambling forums on here Shaggy!
calvoboy
13-03-07, 10:08 AM
OK then - my selections for today are:
2:00 Granit Jack 100pts
2:35 My Way de Solzen 100pts
3:15 Brave Inca 200pts
4:00 Juveigneur 200pts
No selection in the others.
Outside of the tipping contest I am backing Brave Inca and Juveigneur and am including all four in an each way yankee (even though the odds won't be great).
Good luck everyone!
Looks like the tipping comp won't get off the ground but we can still post our selections in here to see who does well and who doesn't...!!
Supreme Novices - Wins Now, Tipperary All Star
Arkle - My Way Du Solzen (Nb)
Champion Hurdle - Hardy Eustace (NAP)
William Hill Trophy - New Alco
Sporting Index - Ivoire De Beaulieu
Fred Winter - Jayo
2pm - Granit Jack
2.35pm - Lennon
3.15pm - Hardy Eustace. Asian Maze (e/w)
4pm - Little Brick
calvoboy
13-03-07, 11:13 AM
Looks like the tipping comp won't get off the ground but we can still post our selections in here to see who does well and who doesn't...!!
Supreme Novices - Wins Now, Tipperary All Star
Arkle - My Way Du Solzen (Nb)
Champion Hurdle - Hardy Eustace (NAP)
William Hill Trophy - New Alco
Sporting Index - Ivoire De Beaulieu
Fred Winter - Jayo
You've just swung it for me - I'm having a small EW bet on Jayo too. It's the Independent's Nap for today.
Need a good first day - it's always easier when you are playing with the bookies money for days 2,3 and 4 rather than chasing your losses!
JohnnyLambert
13-03-07, 11:13 AM
2.00 - Wins Now/Granit Jack
2.35 - My Way De Solzen
3.15 - Hardy Eustace
4.00 - Juveigneur
4.40 - L'Aventure
5.20 - Gaspara
DeeGame
13-03-07, 11:15 AM
whats the races?
Jayesh87
13-03-07, 11:15 AM
Looks like the tipping comp won't get off the ground but we can still post our selections in here to see who does well and who doesn't...!!
Supreme Novices - Wins Now, Tipperary All Star
Arkle - My Way Du Solzen (Nb)
Champion Hurdle - Hardy Eustace (NAP)
William Hill Trophy - New Alco
Sporting Index - Ivoire De Beaulieu
Fred Winter - Jayo
Obviously the best horse in the world :source:
Just got back from the bookies. I normally punt online these days but for Cheltenham I just HAVE to smell the betting shop.
Studied the form in more detail there and I've changed my mind in the opener. Wins Now, Tipp All Star and Tyson are all tempting, but I've steamed in on Granit Jack.
Jayesh87
13-03-07, 12:26 PM
Just got back from the bookies. I normally punt online these days but for Cheltenham I just HAVE to smell the betting shop.
Studied the form in more detail there and I've changed my mind in the opener. Wins Now, Tipp All Star and Tyson are all tempting, but I've steamed in on Granit Jack.
To win or each way?
The Glove
13-03-07, 12:26 PM
Right so Im off the bookies with money to waste, whats todays banker?
To win or each way?
I've backed it to win mate.
Right so Im off the bookies with money to waste, whats todays banker?
My nap is Hardy Eustace but any one of three could win that race. It's a good betting heat. :finger:
Jayesh87
13-03-07, 12:29 PM
My nap is Hardy Eustace but any one of three could win that race. It's a good betting heat. :finger:
Whats nap stand for? :confused:
It just means your best bet of the day. 'nb' means 'next best'.
The Glove
13-03-07, 12:31 PM
Shaggy, do a bit of modding between this and the other thread so we've all the tips in one place. I cant be arsed going between 2 threads for it, Im sure you appreciate there are some lazy bastards about this site.
Well this thread is mainly specific to today's racing, so I've edited the title given that there aren't enough punters for a tipping comp.
The Glove
13-03-07, 12:36 PM
Lazy fucker. :crackoff:
Supreme novices - Hide the evidence E/W
Arkle chase - Havn't decided yet beetwen My Way De Solzen and Fair Along. Might back both or do a reverse forecast. Tidal Fury E/W
Champion Hurdle - Brave Inca and Asian Maze E/W
William Hill - Juveigneur
Sporting Index - Royal Auclair E/W
Any horses over 4/1, I'll be backing Eachway to try aand at least get my money back. The bigger priced EW's I mentiond above, I will have a smaller flutter on as well as my main bet.
Jayesh87
13-03-07, 01:38 PM
I got a few quid on Tyson in the first race at 15's each way :source:
Watch it come last now :shake:
Money in the ring for Tyson!
10 of the last 11 winners of this race had won their previous outing - and Granit Jack, Tyson and the favourite all come in to that category.
Jayesh87
13-03-07, 01:41 PM
Money in the ring for Tyson!
10 of the last 11 winners of this race had won their previous outing - and Granit Jack, Tyson and the favourite all come in to that category.
I just like the name :)
Not your money Milky - there is real, actual money for Tyson.
Jayesh87
13-03-07, 01:43 PM
Not your money Milky - there is real, actual money for Tyson.
I'll ave you kno i have a whole £4 on it :haha:
The Glove
13-03-07, 01:48 PM
Ive got shiney golden pounds on Granit Jack, My way de solzen, Hardy Eustice and New Alco. All to win and have gone with an e/w Lucky 15 on them all as well.
Jayesh87
13-03-07, 01:49 PM
Ive got shiney golden pounds on Granit Jack, My way de solzen, Hardy Eustice and New Alco. All to win and have gone with an e/w Lucky 15 on them all as well.
Good luck :handshake:
Ive got shiney golden pounds on Granit Jack, My way de solzen, Hardy Eustice and New Alco. All to win and have gone with an e/w Lucky 15 on them all as well.
Haha. Me n thee'll hopefully be celebrating later - I've got those four in a Lucky 15 :D :rock:
2.00 Granit Jack (e/w), Hide The Evidence (e/w)
2.35 My Way The Solzen, Tidal Fury (e/w)
3.15 Sublimity (e/w), Detroit City
4.00 Mon Mome (e/w)
4.40 Heads on the Ground (e/w), Silver Birch (e/w)
5.20 Ned Ludd (e/w), Garpara
Jayesh87
13-03-07, 02:07 PM
the winner was at 50's :oh: :oh:
The Glove
13-03-07, 02:08 PM
Where has Jackie boy come??
BASTARD!
Granit Jack 2nd. Ebaziyan wins it. The favourite Amaretto Rose looked all over the winner as she absolutely cantered upsides the leaders two out, but found nothing off the bridle.
Granit Jack was well placed throughout, and had a right chance coming up the hill. Just found one too good.
the winner was at 50's :oh: :oh:
40/1.
Jayesh87
13-03-07, 02:09 PM
40/1.
50's on skybet :source:
The Glove
13-03-07, 02:10 PM
2nd pays out on the Lucky so atleast thats something.
Twatty nag. :(
Fuck Skybet, it's the SP that matters. It returned a 40/1 shot.
Just interviewd the winning owner and even he didn't fancy it. :shake:
Thank fuck I took Granite Jack as part of an e/w accumulator. Cannot believe the result of the first race - lets hope its not going to be one of those festivals.
Granit Jack one for the notebooks I think - future chaser.
Lennon in the next each way for me.
Eye catching name or do you genuinely fancy it? :D
I backed My Way De Solzen at last year's festival and it obliged at around 8/1, so I'm staying loyal. I fancy his stamina will get him up the hill again, and the stiff finish should compensate for the slightly short trip.
Anyone at work can watch online here:
mms://wm.broadcast.tneg.de/racebets_england
calvoboy
13-03-07, 02:32 PM
Granit Jack one for the notebooks I think - future chaser.
I don't know - it seemed to want to run through every hurdle instead of going over the top of them. Still, I am slightly up on the first race, having had it each way, so come on De Solzen in the second!
Eye catching name or do you genuinely fancy it? :D
I backed My Way De Solzen at last year's festival and it obliged at around 8/1, so I'm staying loyal. I fancy his stamina will get him up the hill again, and the stiff finish should compensate for the slightly short trip.
:handshake: Well I do like the name being a Beatles fan and all that as you know Shaggy, but it was genuinely tipped as well by a mate of mine so I'll see how we go.
I fookin' love Cheltenham week!! Only one race in and I'm loving it already :D
I do, proper love Cheltenham. It makes me wish I was still a full-time punter, but your Southwells, Plumptons and Ludlows can't hold a candle to meetings like Cheltenham and Aintree. At least you know they're all trying, for a start.
:handshake: Well I do like the name being a Beatles fan and all that as you know Shaggy, but it was genuinely tipped as well by a mate of mine so I'll see how we go.
I fookin' love Cheltenham week!! Only one race in and I'm loving it already :D
Oops. False start and Lennon got more revved up than any of the others. Took a keen hold and they're having 2 minutes respite to allow them to get their breath back.
ANOTHER false start!
My Way De Solzen wins by about 10 lengths. Pissed in.
Oops. False start and Lennon got more revved up than any of the others. Took a keen hold and they're having 2 minutes respite to allow them to get their breath back.
ANOTHER false start!
Lennon! :o
The Glove
13-03-07, 02:46 PM
My Way De Solzen wins by about 10 lengths. Pissed in.
Happy days! :rock:
What price?
anyone know where I can listen to the races ?
calvoboy
13-03-07, 02:47 PM
Get in there!
That's at least some return on my yankee then, to go with a win on de solzen and a small return on Granit Jack. Come on Brave Inca next! (though I think I'm on my own for this race?)
Happy days! :rock:
What price?
I got 4.7 :finger: (just under 15/4 ;) )
The Glove
13-03-07, 02:54 PM
I got 4.7 :finger: (just under 15/4 ;) )
Dont start with that bollocks. :D
anyone know where I can listen to the races ?
The Champion Hurdle will be on 5Live but I posted a link earlier in this thread where you can watch the racing online.
Jayesh87
13-03-07, 02:55 PM
who you think will win the next race?
The Glove
13-03-07, 02:56 PM
Won at 7/2.
Thank you. Roll on Hardy Eustice now. That wins and Im up for the day. :handshake:
who you think will win the next race?
I really fancy Hardy Eustace - he never got the run of the race when beaten by Detroit City last time, got beat by about a length and is 4lb better off at the weights this time around.
With a bit of luck in running I'm confident he'll turn the form round.
Jayesh87
13-03-07, 03:08 PM
I really fancy Hardy Eustace - he never got the run of the race when beaten by Detroit City last time, got beat by about a length and is 4lb better off at the weights this time around.
With a bit of luck in running I'm confident he'll turn the form round.
Fingers crossed!
JOCKEEEEYYYYYYYYYYYYS!!!!!!!
Thye're off!
Bastard.
Sublimity wins at 16s. Wasn't expecting that. Brave Inca 2nd, Hardy Eustace 3rd, Detroit City nowhere.
The Glove
13-03-07, 03:23 PM
Cuntbastardflap.
3rd might count on the lucky 15 though which probably means Ive broke even for the day with one race left for me.
Afsoun has been credited as 3rd
Fuck me, the winner was a listed winner for Stoutey on the flat.
Afsoun has been credited as 3rd
Has it? Did Hardy get done on the line?
calvoboy
13-03-07, 03:25 PM
Good race - though I don't think anyone saw that one coming! Better than even for the day with the EW return in the yankee. Need Juveigneur to do the business now if I'm going to be a decent amount up though.
This has not been a great first day for me!
According to Sporting life fast results, Afsoun 3rd
Carberry was looking round on the winner about three out, absolutely fucking wazzed in.
First entire to win the Champion Hurdle since Alderbrook :respect:
The Glove
13-03-07, 03:28 PM
Afsoun has been credited as 3rd
Mother fucker.
New Alco needs to up its game to make Glovey a happy boy.
Mother fucker.
New Alco needs to up its game to make Glovey a happy boy.
:handshake:
Yep, I need New Alco to win for me to end the day in profit.
2nd, 1st and 4th so far. Getting good runs for my money.
Sublimity puts me in a good profit for the day!!!
Had a nice crispy fiver on it at 18/1 - to go well with an each-way on Granit Jack in the first, a winner in the second in My Way de Solzen, and a tasty little late each-way in the third with Afsoun!!
Should give me some dosh to play with for the rest of the week!!! :rock:
Long way to go yet though, but it's a start!
Sublimity puts me in a good profit for the day!!!
Had a nice crispy fiver on it at 18/1 - to go well with an each-way on Granit Jack in the first, a winner in the second in My Way de Solzen, and a tasty little late each-way in the third with Afsoun!!
Should give me some dosh to play with for the rest of the week!!! :rock:
Long way to go yet though, but it's a start!
That's a fucking GREAT start mate! :rock:
Sublimity puts me in a good profit for the day!!!
Had a nice crispy fiver on it at 18/1 - to go well with an each-way on Granit Jack in the first, a winner in the second in My Way de Solzen, and a tasty little late each-way in the third with Afsoun!!
Should give me some dosh to play with for the rest of the week!!! :rock:
Long way to go yet though, but it's a start!
You've done great there Taffy. Please post your tips early tomorrow! :handshake:
What a finish that was. Distant Thunder and Juveigneur looked to have it between them, but Joe's Edge absolutely sprouted wings to come steaming upsides to seemingly nab it. Three-way photo.
New Alco about 6th.
Joe's Edge wins it - fucking 50s.
The Glove
13-03-07, 04:13 PM
Minge.
calvoboy
13-03-07, 04:15 PM
Noooooooo....beaten in the photo! Had it each way, but it could have been so much better.
Oh well. Three seconds and a winner out of four selections is not a bad return for the first day.
Well done though Taffy - you must have been the only one on sublimity!
I keep refreshing my balance on Betfair, but it doesn't seem to be going up? :eyebrow:
Jayesh87
13-03-07, 04:22 PM
Can someone tell me where Le Duc finishes in the 4:40 please! Don't have the racing channel.
Ta :handshake:
I keep refreshing my balance on Betfair, but it doesn't seem to be going up? :eyebrow:
:haha:
I'm having a similar experience with Ladbrokes. Must be a problem with the websites.....!
DeeGame
13-03-07, 04:26 PM
Can someone tell me where Le Duc finishes in the 4:40 please! Don't have the racing channel.
Ta :handshake:
its not 4.40 yet :handshake:
Thanks guys!
Mon Mome got me another e/w place by finishing 4th in the latest race, but I was looking at Joe's Edge earlier this morning and decided against it in the end after it failed for me in the National last year! 50/1!! :rolleyes:
Anyway, every race so far has got me a return and there's two to go, but I'm not so sure about these next ones - the day's been a success though and it gives me something to play with for the remainder of the festival! :rock:
Heads on the Ground is my big hope in the next, but a Silver Birch success will go down well too!
Hmmmm, one of those days today!! I should make the most of it! :rock:
Another winner and a place too! What am I doing different today?! Wish I knew!!
Long may it continue!!
JohnnyLambert
13-03-07, 05:00 PM
Fuk me taffy wat you getting on in the last??
Jayesh87
13-03-07, 05:02 PM
GOt a few quid on Jayo each way in the last :rock: what a cool name :rock:
Fuk me taffy wat you getting on in the last??
From my post this lunchtime:
2.00 Granit Jack (e/w), Hide The Evidence (e/w)
2.35 My Way The Solzen, Tidal Fury (e/w)
3.15 Sublimity (e/w), Detroit City
4.00 Mon Mome (e/w)
4.40 Heads on the Ground (e/w), Silver Birch (e/w)
5.20 Ned Ludd (e/w), Gaspara
Has to fail sometime though, but it hasn't yet! If you're on these though don't go silly - I ain't usually this lucky! Jayo seems a decent e/w chance too (hope you get lucky Milky!).
The last looks a wide open affair with Gaspara and Puvoir the two to beat.
I like the look of Ned Ludd, Madroos and Jayo as outsiders though.
It's been one of those days today and tomorrow's another day - probably a totally different day for me I suppose, knowing my usual luck!
RedJedi
13-03-07, 05:10 PM
From my post this lunchtime:
2.00 Granit Jack (e/w), Hide The Evidence (e/w)
2.35 My Way The Solzen, Tidal Fury (e/w)
3.15 Sublimity (e/w), Detroit City
4.00 Mon Mome (e/w)
4.40 Heads on the Ground (e/w), Silver Birch (e/w)
5.20 Ned Ludd (e/w), Gaspara
Has to fail sometime though, but it hasn't yet! If you're on these though don't go silly - I ain't usually this lucky! Jayo seems a decent e/w chance too (hope you get lucky Milky!).
Well done mate :handshake: , shame ive only just read them. :wall:
It's Gaspara or Jayo for me, but I'll take a watching brief.
Jayo is from Willie Mullins' yard, who had the first winner of the day, so the stable's in-form.
DeeGame
13-03-07, 05:32 PM
1st (4) Gaspara 9-2 Jt Fav
2nd (13) Altilhar 12-1
3rd (5) Laustra Bad 16-1
4th (1) Zilcash 50-1
Jayo still running :crackoff:
Well, Gaspara does it at the last for me making me a profit of over £170 today!!
I'll have to bet sensibly tomorrow otherwise I'll probably lose the lot by Friday!
Tomorrow's another day - but I'd take more of the same please! :rock:
calvoboy
13-03-07, 05:42 PM
Jayo made a mistake at the second last when coming up to challenge for third place according to the radio.
Happy with my day today, ended up doubling my money. Not quite in your league though Taffy. Still, having just arrived back from Rome, at least the Welsh are winning something this week!
Yep I'm happy with today, more than doubled my money...although as usual I'm feeling greedy and want to win substantially more. :D
Roll on tomorrow.
I followed Fagan's tips (apart from Nina's nap :rant: ) and am down. Nina's nap would have seen me break even-ish. :o
Jayo made a mistake at the second last when coming up to challenge for third place according to the radio.
Happy with my day today, ended up doubling my money. Not quite in your league though Taffy. Still, having just arrived back from Rome, at least the Welsh are winning something this week!
:finger: :rock:
Did some sums earlier on and I ended up over £200 up on the day! Had four winners out of the six races (40/1 and 50/1 were the other winners I missed out on - can't have everything I suppose ;) ) and had 6 e/w winners also!
Also did a 'lucky15s' for the day with two winners of the four coming in netting me over £42 off a £7.50 stake - all four would have got me over a grand and a half, but that would have been just too greedy!
Tomorrow's another day but I hope for much of the same, I wish, but the last three races don't look too good so far and will need a lot of luck to find some winners there. Well Chief and Denman are almost certain 'bankers' for tomorrow - if there ever is such a thing at Cheltenham I suppose, and Aran Concerto looks the one to beat early in the afternoon too!
Shall have a closer look tomorrow morning in work - well I must do something to help the working day go by, and will try to post my bets up earlier than today, however, one lucky day at the Festival is all I can really hope for as it's usually doom and gloom by the end of the week for me going on past records!
I shall savour today, and hope for more of the same, but I've learnt that it doesn't usually go like that in this game very often and will have to be careful not to throw it all back at Joe Coral and his mates by the end of the week - I've a weekend away hoping to finally see a Welsh win coming up so a few quid to spend there would be good!
I followed Fagan's tips (apart from Nina's nap :rant: ) and am down. Nina's nap would have seen me break even-ish. :o
:haha:
Sorry about that mate! most of them were placed but not worth backing each way
if it makes you feel better i had my way de solzen with a double on hardy eustace so got nothing from it and was down a couple of hundred at that stage
thankfully nina's tip bagged me a cool 900 quid!
so i aint too sore about it
The Glove
14-03-07, 08:41 AM
I finished yesterday up so I'll take today as it comes. :D
Denman and Well Cheif so far for me.
Sublimity puts me in a good profit for the day!!!
Had a nice crispy fiver on it at 18/1 - to go well with an each-way on Granit Jack in the first, a winner in the second in My Way de Solzen, and a tasty little late each-way in the third with Afsoun!!
Should give me some dosh to play with for the rest of the week!!! :rock:
Long way to go yet though, but it's a start!
I put a small £4 EW bet on Sublimity just before the race started. Had a reverses forecast of My Way De Solzen and Fair Along in Race 2. Had Gaspara win in race 6 and EW on Juviegneur in Race 4 who was beaten into second by a snout.
I put a small £4 EW bet on Sublimity just before the race started. Had a reverses forecast of My Way De Solzen and Fair Along in Race 2. Had Gaspara win in race 6 and EW on Juviegneur in Race 4 who was beaten into second by a snout.
:handshake:
Cracking first day - let's hope today's just as profitable (but I doubt it!).
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