View Full Version : John Bolton - what a ****
Neil Young
22-03-07, 11:36 AM
Did anyone else see this rabid neo-con liar on Newsnight last night?
Did anyone else see this rabid neo-con liar on Newsnight last night?
I turned over, I knew it would make me angry. :haha:
Did he still bang on about Iraq being the right decision?
This John Bolton ?
http://www.johnbolton.com/
Neil Young
22-03-07, 11:45 AM
No, this one:
http://home.earthlink.net/~platter/common/images/0605-04.jpg
It's important because it shows what the neo-cons will do differently if they are ever given the chance to invade another country.
The gist of his argument about Iraq was that the invasion was completely right and that Iraq would be better if they'd just got out as soon as they'd toppled Saddam.
It is chilling that a man with as many personality problems as him should have any influence on policy anywhere ever.
Here's a link to the Newsnight page. The interview was on about 30 minutes into the programme.
link (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/6476641.stm)
Redlife
22-03-07, 01:30 PM
Not on Newsnight, but the Daily Show.
Jon Stewart did a great job on him.
Neil Young
22-03-07, 01:51 PM
Not on Newsnight, but the Daily Show.
Jon Stewart did a great job on him.
Got a link? I'm happy to watch anything that paints that apology for a human being in his true colours.
What's that ring on his finger? :source:
Neil Young
22-03-07, 01:53 PM
What's that ring on his finger? :source:
Straight to the main issue as ever eh Caco?
:crackoff:
I was thinking more of a Nicey secret sect member :source:
Redlife
22-03-07, 02:18 PM
Got a link? I'm happy to watch anything that paints that apology for a human being in his true colours.
http://www.comedycentral.com/shows/the_daily_show/index.jhtml
Go the menu underneath the video and select the Bolton one.
The bit Stewart is referring to at the very beginning of the interview is the fact that when he announced that Bolton was a guest on tonight's show, the audience booed :D
Neil Young
22-03-07, 02:35 PM
Cheers Redlife.
His solution to the Iraq problem was that after the invasion eceryting should have been turned oevr to the Iraqis, and by implication, the coalition should have left the Iraqis to it.
I was gobsmakcked when I listened to him, after all that's ahppend he even had the gall to defend the WMD issue. Scary
Neil Young
23-03-07, 10:01 AM
His solution to the Iraq problem was that after the invasion eceryting should have been turned oevr to the Iraqis, and by implication, the coalition should have left the Iraqis to it.
I was gobsmakcked when I listened to him, after all that's ahppend he even had the gall to defend the WMD issue. Scary
And a barefaced liar too as the next edition of The Daily Show demonstrated.
I thought his performance on Newsnight was terrible in every conceivable way.
Neil Young
23-03-07, 10:04 AM
His solution to the Iraq problem was that after the invasion eceryting should have been turned oevr to the Iraqis, and by implication, the coalition should have left the Iraqis to it.
I was gobsmakcked when I listened to him, after all that's ahppend he even had the gall to defend the WMD issue. Scary
How was the book by the way?
More wise words from Bolton:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6479377.stm
A former top American diplomat says the US deliberately resisted calls for a immediate ceasefire during the conflict in Lebanon in the summer of 2006.
Former ambassador to the UN John Bolton told the BBC that before any ceasefire Washington wanted Israel to eliminate Hezbollah's military capability.
Mr Bolton said an early ceasefire would have been "dangerous and misguided".
He said the US decided to join efforts to end the conflict only when it was clear Israel's campaign wasn't working.
The former envoy, who stepped down in December 2006, was interviewed for a BBC radio documentary, The Summer War in Lebanon, to be broadcast in April.
Mr Bolton said the US was deeply disappointed at Israel's failure to remove the threat from Hezbollah and the subsequent lack of any attempt to disarm its forces.
Britain joined the US in refusing to call for an immediate ceasefire.
'Damn proud'
The war began when Hezbollah captured two Israeli soldiers, but it quickly escalated into a full-scale conflict.
BBC diplomatic correspondent Bridget Kendall says the US-UK refusal to join calls for a ceasefire was one of the most controversial aspects of the diplomacy.
At the time US officials argued a ceasefire was insufficient and agreement was needed to address the underlying tensions and balance of power in the region.
Mr Bolton now describes it as "perfectly legitimate... and good politics" for the Israelis to seek to defeat their enemy militarily, especially as Hezbollah had attacked Israel first and it was acting "in its own self-defence".
Mr Bolton, a controversial and blunt-speaking figure, said he was "damned proud of what we did" to prevent an early ceasefire.
Also in the BBC programme, several key players claim that, privately, there were Arab leaders who also wanted Israel to destroy Hezbollah.
"There were many not - how should I put it - resistant to the thought that the Israelis should thoroughly defeat Hezbollah, who... increasingly by Arab states were seen as an Iranian proxy," said UN special envoy Terje Roed Larsen.
More than 1,000 Lebanese civilians and an unknown number of Hezbollah fighters were killed in the conflict.
Israel lost 116 soldiers in the fighting, while 43 of its civilians were killed in Hezbollah rocket attacks.
Snigger
23-03-07, 05:20 PM
I saw it - I knew what he's say before he even opened his mouth, he's cont and a stupid looking cont at that.
Neil Young
24-03-07, 08:08 AM
More wise words from Bolton:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6479377.stm
A former top American diplomat says the US deliberately resisted calls for a immediate ceasefire during the conflict in Lebanon in the summer of 2006.
Former ambassador to the UN John Bolton told the BBC that before any ceasefire Washington wanted Israel to eliminate Hezbollah's military capability.
Mr Bolton said an early ceasefire would have been "dangerous and misguided".
He said the US decided to join efforts to end the conflict only when it was clear Israel's campaign wasn't working.
The former envoy, who stepped down in December 2006, was interviewed for a BBC radio documentary, The Summer War in Lebanon, to be broadcast in April.
Mr Bolton said the US was deeply disappointed at Israel's failure to remove the threat from Hezbollah and the subsequent lack of any attempt to disarm its forces.
Britain joined the US in refusing to call for an immediate ceasefire.
'Damn proud'
The war began when Hezbollah captured two Israeli soldiers, but it quickly escalated into a full-scale conflict.
BBC diplomatic correspondent Bridget Kendall says the US-UK refusal to join calls for a ceasefire was one of the most controversial aspects of the diplomacy.
At the time US officials argued a ceasefire was insufficient and agreement was needed to address the underlying tensions and balance of power in the region.
Mr Bolton now describes it as "perfectly legitimate... and good politics" for the Israelis to seek to defeat their enemy militarily, especially as Hezbollah had attacked Israel first and it was acting "in its own self-defence".
Mr Bolton, a controversial and blunt-speaking figure, said he was "damned proud of what we did" to prevent an early ceasefire.
Also in the BBC programme, several key players claim that, privately, there were Arab leaders who also wanted Israel to destroy Hezbollah.
"There were many not - how should I put it - resistant to the thought that the Israelis should thoroughly defeat Hezbollah, who... increasingly by Arab states were seen as an Iranian proxy," said UN special envoy Terje Roed Larsen.
More than 1,000 Lebanese civilians and an unknown number of Hezbollah fighters were killed in the conflict.
Israel lost 116 soldiers in the fighting, while 43 of its civilians were killed in Hezbollah rocket attacks.
I heard that. The only surprising thing is that someone admitted it. It was obvious what the US were doing although I hadn't realised that they gave it up because Israel was failing.
Perhaps if the neo-cons were so keen to get back at Iranian proxies they shouldn't have allowed themselves to be duped by the Iraqi National Congress in the run-up to the Iraq war. After all, thanks to the Bush and Blair (and Howard) governments, the Iranians actually were the winners. And even better, they didn't actually take part.
How was the book by the way?
Still working its way up the pile of books that I must read during my period of unemployment.
It is sobering to see the calibre of these neo cons and their twisted view of the woprld. Their sons should be conscripted into the military, that way we may get them to think twice about the use of gun boat diplomacy - assuming they are capable of thought.
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