View Full Version : Roy Keane is Sunderlands new boss
The Glove
23-08-06, 09:06 PM
Erm, thats it really.
paulcooper4
23-08-06, 09:08 PM
Erm, thats it really.
straight up? hahaha is this that fuckin "world class manager" quinns been bangin on about bringing in?:haha:
The Glove
23-08-06, 09:12 PM
Im watching the mancs on Sky and Gorilla man said at Half time that he is the new manager.
Fuckin hell tho, me nan would be a world class manager comparied to Niall Quinn tho.
I pity both parties.
Sunderland need an experienced manager at the helm, someone who knows the football league inside out.
Keane needs good players to be able to suceed there considering he has limited experience and he'll struggle to attract anyone up there.
I pity both parties.
Sunderland need an experienced manager at the helm, someone who knows the football league inside out.
Keane needs good players to be able to suceed there considering he has limited experience and he'll struggle to attract anyone up there.
My heart bleeds, for both sides :)
Maestro
23-08-06, 09:17 PM
I can't believe that Keane would work for Quinn - that is bizarre!!!
paulcooper4
23-08-06, 09:17 PM
i will be so upset to see roy keane fall flat on his arse
Could be series 2 of Ron Manager :haha:
El Diego
23-08-06, 09:22 PM
That's bollocks there's no way Quinn and Keane would work together.
kurtangle01
23-08-06, 09:25 PM
They'll be lucky to stay up if this is true.
I wonder how Niall Quinn managed to be fooled into thinking that Keane is a world class manager?!
paulcooper4
23-08-06, 09:26 PM
That's bollocks there's no way Quinn and Keane would work together.
would seem they are my man. although, why the fuck anyone would wanna work with roy "mr personality" keane i have no idea. the man is up his own arsehole and talks complete and utter shoite:crackoff:
He's worked under some World class managers so he must have picked something up. eg: Cloughie, Fergie-Scum and Mick McCarthy ;)
El Diego
23-08-06, 10:25 PM
It seems as if it could be true, I am very very shocked.
leftpeg
23-08-06, 10:36 PM
I reckon he'll have to take some man management courses.
The Glove
23-08-06, 10:37 PM
You dont think beating the shit out of them and yelling will work then?
Don't Quinn and Keane hate each other? I heard they couldn't stand each other before the infamous WC 2002 bust up, but that obviously exacerbated the problem further.
Truly bizarre if this turns out to be true.
Red_hot
23-08-06, 10:41 PM
You dont think beating the shit out of them and yelling will work then?
:haha: :haha: :haha:
on the beeb (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/sunderland/5280226.stm) website too
Sunderland are expected to unveil Roy Keane as their new manager, BBC Radio Five Live understands.
Sunderland chairman and temporary boss Niall Quinn claimed he was on the verge of appointing a new manager on Tuesday and Keane, 35, looks to be his choice.
Sunderland did not confirm the move but said in a statement: "No new managerial appointment has been made at this time.
"The club is in discussions with a high-profile figure and is hopeful of an announcement in the near future."
Former Manchester United assistant boss Brian Kidd is set to take up the same role in the new managerial team.
Keane played with Quinn during their international careers with the Republic of Ireland and they also share the same lawyer and agent in Michael Kennedy.
If Keane is appointed it would be the former Nottingham Forest, Manchester United and Celtic midfielder's first steps into management after he ended his glittering playing career in June 2006.
He also faces a tough challenge at Sunderland with the club lying bottom of the Championship after four consecutive league defeats after their relegation last season.
The club were also knocked out of the Carling Cup after a 2-0 loss to lowly Bury.
leftpeg
23-08-06, 10:42 PM
You dont think beating the shit out of them and yelling will work then?
Well, I suppose they couldn't do any worse than they already have in their first 4 games of the season, even if they have all had their legs broken in training.
Poor long suffering Mackems : Peter Reid, Howard Wilko, Mick McCarthy, Neil Quinn and Roy Keane :o
SouthAfricaRed
23-08-06, 10:46 PM
You dont think beating the shit out of them and yelling will work then?
Hasn't worked for Souness :D
Red_hot
23-08-06, 10:50 PM
Poor long suffering Mackems : Peter Reid, Howard Wilko, Mick McCarthy, Neil Quinn and Roy Keane :o
There was nothing wrong with Peter Reid!! The mackems loved him.
I don't know, they were bitter about the fact that he didn't capitalise on their one good season, bought Tore Andre Flo and Marcus Stewart for 11 million and then took them down :haha:
It all went sour at the end, I remember he getting egged at the end of games.
Red_hot
23-08-06, 10:55 PM
I like Reidy!
I don't mind Reidy, but i don't rate him as a manager.
Red_hot
23-08-06, 10:56 PM
He's got a monkey heeeeeeeeeed!
enema of the state
23-08-06, 11:55 PM
should be interesting
FowlerLeftFoot
24-08-06, 02:38 AM
and i reckon he would be used as an example in all the classes dealing with the topic "how to deal with an asshole player". :p
I reckon he'll have to take some man management courses.
Don't Quinn and Keane hate each other? I heard they couldn't stand each other before the infamous WC 2002 bust up, but that obviously exacerbated the problem further.
Truly bizarre if this turns out to be true.
Why do they hate each other?
It was Mick McCarthy wasn't it?:confused:
Why do they hate each other?
It was Mick McCarthy wasn't it?:confused:
they dont hate each other. It was McCarthy and Keane who had the argument about 'prfessionalism' will be interesting to see what happens when a player stands upto him!
they dont hate each other. It was McCarthy and Keane who had the argument about 'prfessionalism' will be interesting to see what happens when a player stands upto him!
They do. Or at least they did. If you remember Quinn was very vocal about Keane's behaviour in Sapporo and they became embroiled in a few public slanging matches. Keane always hated Quinn and saw him as a creep, an arse licker and too much of a nice guy.
Sunderland v Wolves should be fun this season!!!!
Maestro
24-08-06, 01:18 PM
they dont hate each other. It was McCarthy and Keane who had the argument about 'prfessionalism' will be interesting to see what happens when a player stands upto him!
They did not get on in the wake of Saipan - Keane criticised Quinn in his book for supporting McCarthy in the press conference after Keane was sent home. They haven't spoken since. Quinn would definitely have no animosity towards Keane, but I am gobsmacked that Keane would work for Quinn - he's never been one to let bygones be bygones, has he? Also, I'm surprised he decided to go for Sunderland as his first job…apparently he turned down some premiership clubs, saying he wanted to learn the ropes lower down - but Sunderland is a huge, high profile club in an utterly shite position.
You couldn't ask for a bigger challenge - if he fails, no one will ever let him forget it….
univofchicago
24-08-06, 03:05 PM
Also, I'm surprised he decided to go for Sunderland as his first job…….
Whether he does well or not at Sunderland, I don't think Keane is in for the long haul...If he does well, some other big club will take him up in a flash...If he does poorly...well...it won't last long (common sense..)
As players or personalities, Niall Quinn and Roy Keane share few similarities.
But it seems the former Republic of Ireland team-mates, who had a spectacular falling out before the 2002 World Cup finals, are about to become unlikely bed-fellows at the Stadium of Light.
With Sunderland chairman Quinn set to appoint Keane as the manager to turn his struggling club around, BBC Sport takes a look at the history of the Black Cats' proposed pairing.
PERSONALITY CLASH
Quinn is the genial giant who has laughed and joked his way through life. Keane is the angry ant who even when things were going well was never far away from a scowl.
During his spell as a Sunderland player, Quinn could often be found in a pub chatting to the locals about everything from horse racing to politics.
In contrast, Keane wanted nothing more than to be left alone to walk his dogs.
As a player, Quinn gained success through a deft touch and a fine reading of the game, happy to admit that he was never one of the most dedicated when it came to cross-country runs.
Keane was the fierce competitor, not content unless his team-mates were also squeezing out every last drop of effort.
Off the field, Quinn, seen as one of the brightest and most articulate of footballers, rarely had a bad word for anyone or anything, and few have had a bad word about him.
Keane is a man of few kind words, from managers to the media, from team-mates to opponents.
Even his own fans did not escape his wrath, with his famous "prawn sandwich" tirade about Manchester United's supporters.
WORLD CUP FINALS FALL-OUT
In the summer of 2002, Keane attracted criticism for skipping Quinn's testimonial in Sunderland.
The midfielder, who had refused to contribute to the programme notes for the game over a spat with a journalist, was injured but still expected to show his face.
In turn, Quinn was one of the senior players that Keane felt had refused to back him in his quest to improve Ireland's facilities.
But all that was just the eye of the storm that was to follow when Keane and Republic of Ireland manager Mick McCarthy fell out ahead of the World Cup finals in Japan.
Quinn found himself stuck in the middle of the Saipan controversy.
Quinn and Keane share an agent in Michael Kennedy and the big striker became a mediator in trying to broker a peace deal.
And when Quinn was ultimately forced to take sides he threw his backing behind manager McCarthy.
In Keane's eyes you are either with him or against him - and Quinn was very much against him.
THE AFTERMATH
Both Quinn and Keane aired their views through the media over the saga that split a nation.
Here's what they had to say about each other:
Keane on Quinn:
"Niall Quinn going on TV and saying that he was shattered from it, saying he hadn't slept. Did he think it was a walk in the park for me coming back to Ireland, what my family and kids had to go through?
"He's sitting on TV pretending to wipe a tear from his eye. He deserves an Oscar that fella, making out to be Mother Teresa. People don't know half of it."
Quinn on Keane:
"How do you measure professionalism? By how much pasta you eat? Bleep tests? Abstinence? The ability to get on with it no matter what the circumstances?
"Walking out on your team before the greatest games of their lives?
"We all take responsibility for ourselves. Roy left us in Saipan, not the other way round. And he punished himself more than any of us by not coming back."
But in his autobiography, Quinn's admiration for Keane shone through, even for the way he dismantled McCarthy in front of the Irish squad.
"People talk about Irish patriot Robert Emmet's speech from the dock. They talk about the oratory of Brendan Behan, Eamon de Valera, Michael Collins.
"But Roy Keane's 10-minute oration can be mentioned in the same breath. It was clinical, fierce, earth-shattering to the person on the end of it and it ultimately caused a huge controversy in Irish society."
In August 2002, Keane and Quinn had agreed to shake hands in front of the world when Manchester United visited Sunderland.
But their attempt to make a public reconciliation fell flat when Keane was sent off after being wound-up by Jason McAteer.
Quinn attempted to speak to Keane only to receive the hairdryer treatment from United boss Sir Alex Ferguson, who had misread the situation.
UPSTAIRS-DOWNSTAIRS
Quinn once said of Keane: "His weakness is his unforgiving attitude to his team-mates. That's where Roy and I will always differ."
But with the hatchet now seemingly buried, the two opposites appear to be an attractive proposition for a club who have suffered a dramatic demise.
Keane and Quinn will either prove to be the ideal good cop-bad cop partnership that Sunderland need or a high-stakes gamble with the potential to go spectacularly wrong.
McAteer once admitted that players raise their game for fear of upsetting Keane.
It will certainly offer something for Sunderland's under-performing players to think about in the coming weeks.
If anything, it promises to be an interesting period for all concerned, in particular when Sunderland make the trip to face Mick McCarthy's Wolves side on 25 November.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/sunderland/5281188.stm
spud_gun
24-08-06, 10:39 PM
...but he's still a ****.
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