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Howard_lfc
02-08-07, 10:29 PM
Gordon Smith (ex footy player) has had his idea of retrospective punishment for simulation accepted by the SPL. It will run from the first day of the season under a trial basis until January when it will be accepted and used for all televised games.

Basically, if a player feigns injury/foul or plain 'dives' when no contact is made then he can be awarded a yellow card after the game when the referee reviews the full 90 minutes of the game. Similarly, the ref can also rescind yellow cards upon reviewing the incident.

From the beginning of the season the new idea will be put in place but no cards will be issued. However - come january the plan comes into effect and retrospective yellow cards will be issued for events that the referee may have missed during the game.

It will be interesting to see if/how this trial evolves.

The Glove
02-08-07, 10:36 PM
Really tho, if someone dives and wins a pen and that team win 1-0 they arent going to give a shit if they get a yellow card after the points are in the bag or worse still, a trophy is won.

Red Chilli
02-08-07, 10:37 PM
FIFA have said this will not be approved, so basically a good idea that will not be followd up :haha:

ronan
03-08-07, 09:58 AM
Really tho, if someone dives and wins a pen and that team win 1-0 they arent going to give a shit if they get a yellow card after the points are in the bag or worse still, a trophy is won.

its the same few who do it every game so they will give a shit as it wouldnt take long to get a sending off. if theyve picked up a yellow already in the game i take it it means they miss the next game as well.
plus it will highlight for everyone who's doing it.
and this weeks divers are...
a sort of name and shame type thing.

Gordy Boy
03-08-07, 10:04 AM
It's definitely a step in the right direction.

The only way you'll stamp it out completely is to start banning them. Once managers are losing their best players week in and week out they'll soon start putting the message across to the players to stay on their feet.

donpisci
03-08-07, 10:56 AM
It's definitely a step in the right direction.

The only way you'll stamp it out completely is to start banning them. Once managers are losing their best players week in and week out they'll soon start putting the message across to the players to stay on their feet.

Exactly, but FIFA don't have the balls to make such a change because it will have a major impact on the game.

At the moment, it's up to the FAs to take the initiative and get this introduced.

Something needs to be done because it really is getting out of hand. I think that if a player is caught diving, he should get an automatic 3/ 5 match ban. It needs to be severe to prevent it.

TheStig
03-08-07, 02:13 PM
FIFA have said this will not be approved, so basically a good idea that will not be followd up :haha:

As usual FIFA fuck it up :rolleyes:.

Great idea and I've been saying this for ages. A yellow card isn't enough though, they need to start handing out bans.

dww
03-08-07, 02:19 PM
I actually kind of see FIFAs point here - they want to preserve the position of referees. Which would be fair enough if they stood up for them and attempted to make sure they were of an appropriate standard and that the rules were all enforceable by a referee and two assistants as are currently used.

I think the way round it is for the SFA to suggest that the referee himself has to do a report watching the video of the match to highlight any incidents they think they missed/saw incorrectly during the match. If the referee had to do this and evaluate their own performance then they might well also improve their own performances.

I also think managers should be forced by regulations to apologise if video evidence shows they have incorrectly claimed a referee made a mistake that affected the game. It really annoys me that referees come in for so much stick when 9 out of 10 times they are trying to do an honest job.

TheStig
03-08-07, 02:34 PM
I actually kind of see FIFAs point here - they want to preserve the position of referees. Which would be fair enough if they stood up for them and attempted to make sure they were of an appropriate standard and that the rules were all enforceable by a referee and two assistants as are currently used.

I think the way round it is for the SFA to suggest that the referee himself has to do a report watching the video of the match to highlight any incidents they think they missed/saw incorrectly during the match. If the referee had to do this and evaluate their own performance then they might well also improve their own performances.

I also think managers should be forced by regulations to apologise if video evidence shows they have incorrectly claimed a referee made a mistake that affected the game. It really annoys me that referees come in for so much stick when 9 out of 10 times they are trying to do an honest job.

I feel sorry for refs. Most of the time they are doing an honest job, but the game has become so cheat riddled that it's really difficult to tell whether someone is cheating or not. Retroactive punishment is the only way forward, we have the tech I don't understand why we don't use it.

Football is positively ancient compared to just about any other sport in the world in this regard.