Cattermole

[ronan]

starting tonight for boro.
i really like this young fella
worth watching tonights game if you havent seen him before

[G_Man]

Yeah he's got a lot of potential, a born winner. However, Boro won't sell and he'll never fulfill his potential unless he's smart enough to see out his contract.

[CharlieMansonsSquint]

starting tonight for boro.
i really like this young fella
worth watching tonights game if you havent seen him before

Reo-Coker's better I reckon. We should go for him next summer when Zenden's contract is up.

[paulcooper4]

Reo-Coker's better I reckon. We should go for him next summer when Zenden's contract is up.
:handshake:

[G_Man]

True, I think we'd have more chance of getting him too. Gibson would never sell Cattermole to us.

[paulcooper4]

True, I think we'd have more chance of getting him too. Gibson would never sell Cattermole to us.
wouldnt give the twat a penny either after all that ziege bollocks. I hope the twats go down, and i reckon they might too with that long faced ugly manc loving prick in charge

[Howard_lfc]

Reo-Coker's better I reckon. We should go for him next summer when Zenden's contract is up.

Good call that mate.
Last season - NRC was the stand out player on the pitch at Anfield for me. I said it at the time and got ripped for it !! Now though - people are recognising that he's a very decent player indeed. I reckon he'd be perfect for Man Utd and he'll end up there. Just a hunch though

[dww]

wouldnt give the twat a penny either after all that ziege bollocks. I hope the twats go down, and i reckon they might too with that long faced ugly manc loving prick in charge

I don't see why it is bollocks. He fought to get money for his club because we broke the rules - If anotherteam poached one of our players we would be up in arms.

Any particular reason for your Boro hatred?

[paulcooper4]

I don't see why it is bollocks. He fought to get money for his club because we broke the rules - If anotherteam poached one of our players we would be up in arms.

Any particular reason for your Boro hatred?
none other than the reasons stated.
What did we do wrong by the way? they were stupid enough to write the 5 million get out clause in his contract, we just met the conditions of said buy out clause:handshake:

[dww]

I'm sure it goes on all the time but we talked to the agent before making a bid. He gave us information about the contract. PL league rules state that we needed to have permission to talk to the agent. We bid the exact release clause value - which we could only have known via talking to the agent without their permission, so Gibson complained.

I don't think what we did was nice, but like I said I suspect similar things happen with many transfers. We were just stupid enough to allow Middlesborough to know what we did. I have no problem with a Chairman defending his teams interests and i don't think he did anything malicious.

[paulcooper4]

I'm sure it goes on all the time but we talked to the agent before making a bid. He gave us information about the contract. PL league rules state that we needed to have permission to talk to the agent. We bid the exact release clause value - which we could only have known via talking to the agent without their permission, so Gibson complained.

I don't think what we did was nice, but like I said I suspect similar things happen with many transfers. We were just stupid enough to allow Middlesborough to know what we did. I have no problem with a Chairman defending his teams interests and i don't think he did anything malicious.
still dont see what we done wrong to be honest. If boro are daft enough to put a release cluse in, they cant start whingeing when someone meets the clause value. Of course the agent let us know, its there job to do so. Ive no doubt he let a lot of clubs know. But, unfortunately, the bag of shite decided to join us:handshake:

[Rich]

Reo-Coker would be a good shout, but he certainly wouldn't be cheap (unless he has one of those brilliant clauses in his contract!:D)

Skillful, level-headed, fast, good tackler. He's a very good player and probably should be in the England squad.

[Morse]

still dont see what we done wrong to be honest. If boro are daft enough to put a release cluse in, they cant start whingeing when someone meets the clause value. Of course the agent let us know, its there job to do so. Ive no doubt he let a lot of clubs know. But, unfortunately, the bag of shite decided to join us:handshake:


Didn't Bellamy have a similar buy out clause...we all knew about that too didn't we?

[Ben_Itez]

Apparently Reo-Coker does have one of those 'magic clauses' in his contract.

It stipulates that he is allowed to talk to any PL team that finished in the top 3 positions the previous year. Not sure if there's a value attached to it though.

Both Manure and Arsenal have been heavily linked with him this week but i'd doubt West Ham would sell to Arsenal except for silly money (finished 4th) and it may depend on how much is stipulated in this clause as to whether Manure come in for him......if they're willing to pay 17m for Hargreaves and 18m for Trezeguet then who knows!

IMO he's a very solid player but would cost way too much to be our 4th choice CM.

[Howard_lfc]

These clubs make me laugh when they moan about an escape clause being activated; isn't that the fecking idea of them? If a club is stupid enough to sign a player and then agree to the player or agent including said clause then they get exactly what they deserve.

Correct me if I'm wrong here - but I haven't heard of any LFC representatives being present when Ziege and Bellamy signed their contracts at Boro and Blackburn. So then, who actually leaked the details of the clauses in their contracts? It's either the player, the agent or the club. Period.

A buying club can activate a clause unwittingly but that's highly unlikely. The probable cause of the leak is the agent involved; it makes sense. So if any blame has to be apportioned then it's in the direction of the agent - not the club activating the clause.

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[paulcooper4]

These clubs make me laugh when they moan about an escape clause being activated; isn't that the fecking idea of them? If a club is stupid enough to sign a player and then agree to the player or agent including said clause then they get exactly what they deserve.

Correct me if I'm wrong here - but I haven't heard of any LFC representatives being present when Ziege and Bellamy signed their contracts at Boro and Blackburn. So then, who actually leaked the details of the clauses in their contracts? It's either the player, the agent or the club. Period.

A buying club can activate a clause unwittingly but that's highly unlikely. The probable cause of the leak is the agent involved; it makes sense. So if any blame has to be apportioned then it's in the direction of the agent - not the club activating the clause.

H
:handshake:

[G_Man]

I thought the accusation from Boro was that LFC got Hamann to approach Ziege at the world cup (or Euros-can't remember) and tap him up and Ziege volunteered the information to Hamann. didi then told Houllier.
At the end of the day we were found guilty of an illegal approach so you can't really blame Boro for having a good moan.

[dww]

I think the rules are a bit odd. I wish that they just allowed tapping up as it clearly goes on with or without the legislation about it. As the rules stand I think clubs are right to demand compensation etc. But ultimately I don't see what benefit the regulation is and it clearly infinges a players rights to choose who they work for.

I accept that football has different rules than rugular employment but if a player wants to leave they should be allowed. Maybe the FA should demand all transfer clauses are made public and then no one could complain.

[Shanks]

From a TIA tweet.

Just received an email to say Purslow has been in talks with Sunderland over Lee Cattermole - who was also a target last summer.

No link yet though..

Anyone heard anything?


May need to move to Spec thread.. :(

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[red g]

cant see it, they just lost cana and another one of there other young mids is injured to.

He is a local boy too.

Will be back in Uk next week and will no more as have some good links there.

[Slinky Skills]

From a TIA tweet.



No link yet though..

Anyone heard anything?


May need to move to Spec thread.. :(

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Why the sad face, he's a good player.

Is the sad face because you think he may be a replacement for Gerrard?

[Shanks]

Why the sad face, he's a good player.

Is the sad face because you think he may be a replacement for Gerrard?

No.. I used the search bar for Cattermole, then realised it was the footie forum I'd posted in and not the transfer spec.. :haha:




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[Slinky Skills]

No.. I used the search bar for Cattermole, then realised it was the footie forum I'd posted in and not the transfer spec.. :haha:




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:haha:


FAIL.

[Craig_H]

Good player, if a little dirty in the tackle.

Cant help but think he'd be stupidly overpriced though, by virtue of being english, young and one of Sunderland's few remaining decent midfielders.

His wiki picture makes him look like the kind of thing ITV news puts up on the screen when they're reporting news of someone who is on the run from the police and 'should not be approached'.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a2/LeeCattermole.PNG

[Mike]

Christ! Got to rip me dad about this tomorrow :haha:

Good call that mate.
Last season - NRC was the stand out player on the pitch at Anfield for me. I said it at the time and got ripped for it !! Now though - people are recognising that he's a very decent player indeed. I reckon he'd be perfect for Man Utd and he'll end up there. Just a hunch though

[foresterbloke]

Go
Cant help but think he'd be stupidly overpriced though, by virtue of being english, young and one of Sunderland's few remaining decent midfielders.

Yeah but English players are shit as witnessed in the World Cup!

[Matt]

I'm just glad this wasn't bumped because we were in for Nigel Mediocre.

[Shanks]

Something tells me we wont be doing business with Steve Bruce anytime soon..
We pissed him off didn't we? :sigh:


http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/transfer-gossip/bruce-states-cattermole-no-go


Steve Bruce has dismissed reports linking Lee Cattermole with a move away from Sunderland and stated that he is not available at any price.

With new Reds boss Roy Hodgson currently overseeing some transition in the squad, Cattermole has been seen as a successor to by Javier Mascherano should he leave Anfield.

Bruce however has already lost Cattermole's midfield partner Lorik Cana after a shock exit to Galatasaray for £5million, and insisted that he is not about to lose one of his key players.

"I don't know anything about that, and I have absolutely no intention of letting Lee leave this club - none whatsoever."


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[Chazza1978]

Bump :D

Cattermole banned from every pub in the district

Sunderland star Lee Cattermole has had his ban from pubs and clubs in a region of the North-East extended for another year.

The midfielder has been spotted by licensees trying to get into venues.

Cattermole, 22, was originally banned in December 2008 after he was arrested for disorder on a night out in Yarm, North Yorkshire.

Stockton Pubwatch members – licensees who act to keep out troublemakers – voted to extend the ban.

Pubwatch chair Steve Paling said: “Members have voted unanimously. As licensees we are not prepared to take it any longer.”

The ban would have run out in December this year, but will now be extended until December 2012.

Cleveland police said: “Breach of pub barring is a civil offence. Police do not necessarily need to know about this or be involved.”

Sunderland FC said Cattermole declined to comment on the decision.

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Sunderland-Lee-Cattermole-has-had-his-ban-from-pubs-and-clubs-in-his-neighbourhood-extended-for-another-year-article714336.html

[Shaggy]

:haha::haha: What a dick.

[Pablo1981]

Rudo? :source:

[Rudo]

Bump :D

Cattermole banned from every pub in the district

Sunderland star Lee Cattermole has had his ban from pubs and clubs in a region of the North-East extended for another year.

The midfielder has been spotted by licensees trying to get into venues.

Cattermole, 22, was originally banned in December 2008 after he was arrested for disorder on a night out in Yarm, North Yorkshire.

Stockton Pubwatch members – licensees who act to keep out troublemakers – voted to extend the ban.

Pubwatch chair Steve Paling said: “Members have voted unanimously. As licensees we are not prepared to take it any longer.”

The ban would have run out in December this year, but will now be extended until December 2012.

Cleveland police said: “Breach of pub barring is a civil offence. Police do not necessarily need to know about this or be involved.”

Sunderland FC said Cattermole declined to comment on the decision.

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Sunderland-Lee-Cattermole-has-had-his-ban-from-pubs-and-clubs-in-his-neighbourhood-extended-for-another-year-article714336.html

So he had one night of shame and he's barred from every Club in the North-Est for two years? something's not adding up there.

[Reece]

Sound a bit familiar does it?

[Rudo]

Not in the slightest son, my act of madness didn't result in an arrest, but even still you don't have to do an awful to spend a night in the cells.

If this info is correct then i have sympathy for Cattermole - barred from every single Club in the North-East for two whole years? by god that's harsh.

[little dave hedgehog]

Rudo? :source:

So he had one night of shame and he's barred from every Club in the North-Est for two years? something's not adding up there.

he does not disappoint, you must give him that. :haha:

[Pablo1981]

:haha:

[Chazza1978]

Not in the slightest son, my act of madness didn't result in an arrest, but even still you don't have to do an awful to spend a night in the cells.

If this info is correct then i have sympathy for Cattermole - barred from every single Club in the North-East for two whole years? by god that's harsh.

Its not every club in the north east, its every pub and club involved on Stockton Pubwatch

The original story

Footballers Cattermole and Bates given pub ban
Dec 17 2008 by Naomi Corrigan, Evening Gazette

BORO defender Matthew Bates and former midfielder Lee Cattermole have been banned from pubs and clubs across Stockton borough, it was confirmed today.

The pair were added to Pubwatch’s blacklist of troublemakers after being arrested for disorder during a night out in Yarm last month.

Cattermole, who received a previous warning for bad behaviour in the town, has been barred for three years and Bates for two years.

It means neither can enter most nightspots in central Stockton Yarm, Billingham or Thornaby.

If they breach the ban they could face an anti-social behaviour order (Asbo).

The decision to bar the players was made by Pubwatch’s committee following an incident outside The Keys nightclub on Yarm High Street on November 15.

Police were called by door staff about 11.40pm and the pair, along with Cattermole’s brother Gavin, were subsequently arrested. Each were given fixed penalties for a public order offence.

Chris Neil, chairman of Stockton Pubwatch and owner of the George and Dragon in Yarm, said the committee had heard that door staff were verbally abused and some members of the group became aggressive towards police.

“There is a steering group which meets with Pubwatch from the four areas to discuss any issues,” he said. “We have a set of guidelines regarding bans which depend on the seriousness of the offence.”

In December 2007 while still on Boro’s books, Cattermole was told to watch his behaviour in Stockton’s pubs and clubs or face a three-year ban.

The warning came after landlords raised complaints of a rowdy night out in Yarm involving Lee and around 15 friends. A meeting of Pubwatch was told Cattermole and others were thrown out of four pubs in the town on November 25 2007, for allegedly being abusive.

On that occasion, Pubwatch decided not to bar the Boro Academy graduate but issued the player, and two unnamed others, with “a warning”.

“One of the factors in Lee Cattermole’s case was that he had already been given a warning,” said Mr Neil today.

Pubwatch meets every three months to discuss cases of drunken, loutish and violent behaviour.

Under the scheme, a ban imposed by one pub is a ban from all Pubwatch premises in the town, and can range from six months to life.

Stockton Police licensing unit, said they monitor cases reported to them by Pubwatch but are not part of decisions regarding barring procedures - that was down to the landlords and licensees.

Sergeant Keith Daley of Stockton’s licensing unit said: “The Pubwatch scheme works very well in the Stockton area, and there are a number of people on Pubwatch bans who are fully compliant with these bans.

He said should anyone breach a Pubwatch ban, it may result in an application for an anti-social behaviour order.

Mr Neil said those barred have a right to appeal.

Both Wigan Athletic and Middlesbrough FC were contacted in regard to the barring but neither returned with comment from either the players or the clubs.

http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/2008/12/17/footballers-cattermole-and-bates-given-pub-ban-84229-22496981/