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arse raped right now at the US Open. 0-5 down in the fifth set.:sigh: :o
dirty_sanchez
06-09-06, 04:44 PM
Stupid haired jock twat.
Not you Parm. You're not Scottish :p
lfc4ever
06-09-06, 04:47 PM
Murray is never up for the first set, never mind in this case it's a carry over, his mind & body is still in the locker room preparing for the match, something he has to seriously eradicate, quickly.
CharlieMansonsSquint
06-09-06, 04:54 PM
He annoys me to be honest. Whiney face, voice and acts like a brat. He's like McEnroe without the talent.
Murray is never up for the first set, never mind in this case it's a carry over, his mind & body is still in the locker room preparing for the match, something he has to seriously eradicate, quickly.
it was the fifth set and he went down 6-0.
all that money for Brad Gilbert to tunr him into a 4th rounder!!:o
Stupid haired jock twat.
Not you Parm. You're not Scottish :p
:handshake:
lfc4ever
06-09-06, 05:05 PM
it was the fifth set and he went down 6-0.
all that money for Brad Gilbert to tunr him into a 4th rounder!!:o
But the first set he played today, just like the first set he played yesterday, terrible. He just doesn't turn up till the second set, but no-one told him there wasn't one today! :D
He's gonna be a great player but he needs to sort out this desperate inability to start well and also his attitude (at times). He needs to do it quickly though - Boris Becker won Wimbledon at 17 so he's not quite the "young phenomenon" some would have us believe.
lfc4ever
06-09-06, 06:28 PM
Agreed, Nedal is the same age iirc
Nedal 3 June 1986
Murray 15 May 1987
2005 was Nadal's breakthrough year. At the Australian Open, Nadal was able to progress to the fourth round and pushed the eventual runner-up, Lleyton Hewitt, to five sets before eventually losing. He continued his strong performance a couple of months later in March by reaching the final of the Miami Masters tournament, in which he, despite being three points away from victory in straight sets, was eventually defeated in five sets by the world's #1 player, Roger Federer. Shifting to the clay-court season, Nadal proceeded to win two ATP Masters Series events in Monte Carlo and Rome. At one point in the year, Nadal won 24 consecutive matches, the longest winning streak of any teenager in the Open Era, topping Andre Agassi's run of 23 matches in 1988. By May 2005, he had reached the top 5 in world rankings, becoming the youngest player to break into the Top 10 since Andrei Medvedev in 1993, and was one of the favorites entering the French Open tournament.
He needs to up his fitness big time!
He needs to up his fitness big time!
:handshake: Agreed, he really needs to improve his fitness levels, he can't seem to keep up for a whole match usually.
:handshake: Agreed, he really needs to improve his fitness levels, he can't seem to keep up for a whole match usually.
he does look like he could do with a good meal.
I think he'll be a bit of a Jimmy White/Colin Montgomery. He'll never win a major, he hasn't got the bottle, but he'll have a good career.
CharlieMansonsSquint
06-09-06, 10:07 PM
Typical brit then.:grr:
Typical brit then.:grr:
yeah looks like it :shake:
I think he'll be a bit of a Jimmy White/Colin Montgomery. He'll never win a major, he hasn't got the bottle, but he'll have a good career.
G, you do realise what age he is?! Big claim.
No one has claimed he will win a major to be fair.
But if he does, it will be a hard court and Feds will have caught Babbel disease.
Yes he's young but he doesn't seem to have the champion's instinct, and I believe it is an instinct it's not something you can learn.
I've seen him lose to players who he is much better than. Some of that is down to inexperience but I couldn't see the likes of Sampras or Agassi losing those types of games.
It's a bold claim but sometimes you just get a feeling about players and sadly I have that feeling about him.
Quite happy to be proven wrong again though :handshake:
Everyone is a little bit xenophobic ;)
Ok obviously genetics plays a part but look at Nadal against Murray, who has the tennis talent? I think you'd be hard pushed to distinguish between the two - both immensely talented young players.
Now who wins physically? Nadal pisses all over Murray. OK, Nadal might have the genetics helping him, but I'm sure Nadal puts more effort into his fitness than Murray does into his. This obviously helps Nadal start quickly and finish strongly.
If I'd have been the LTA (or whoever runs british tennis) I'd have spent the money, not on the best tennis coach, but on the best fitness coach.
Ok obviously genetics plays a part but look at Nadal against Murray, who has the tennis talent? I think you'd be hard pushed to distinguish between the two - both immensely talented young players.
Now who wins physically? Nadal pisses all over Murray. OK, Nadal might have the genetics helping him, but I'm sure Nadal puts more effort into his fitness than Murray does into his. This obviously helps Nadal start quickly and finish strongly.
If I'd have been the LTA (or whoever runs british tennis) I'd have spent the money, not on the best tennis coach, but on the best fitness coach.
to be fair his coach has said that the firness will be the big thing they will be working on and that in the next 18months will see a massive change in Murray's fitness levels.
Also touching on the champions instinct I dont think he has it. Nadal, Federrer have it in abundance.
to be fair his coach has said that the firness will be the big thing they will be working on and that in the next 18months will see a massive change in Murray's fitness levels.
Also touching on the champions instinct I dont think he has it. Nadal, Federrer have it in abundance.
Champions instinct - I'm not too sure what this means?
Federer didn't just explode onto the scene, he spent the first couple of years doing well but nothing incredible - did he have champion instinct then?
I believe that kind of instinct is developed when you start winning, you get the taste and it makes people work even harder to enough they get that taste again and again.
Murray has the talent to win a big one - for me it's his fitness and attitude (often sulks) that will hold him back.
I love it when he loses, love it.
Nadal is built like a brick shithouse!! I think under Gilbert Murray will win a major in 3 years.
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