AC Milan... [Archive]

Rich

24-12-07, 02:58 PM

I've watched them a few times on 5 this season (Italian bird presenter...:jizz:) and they've been woeful each and everytime - they look a shadow of the team from even last year, the whole squad needs ripping apart and starting again - too many workers, too many old legs, not enough strike power.

JohnDoe

24-12-07, 03:01 PM

Their team is very old and in need of major investment to inject some new blood into it. Their experience is helping them in the CL but they don't have the legs for a long league campaign.

Nic83

24-12-07, 03:03 PM

I didn't know the Milan derby was on at the weekend as i rarely look at italian fixtures now. I'd have whacked £200 on Inter if i did. They won 2-1. Did you see their odds syd?

As for match fixing, after studying there lineups to see wtf is actually going on, it isn't actually rocket science.

It's simple. Ancelotti has lost the plot.

They struggle to score at home and here is why:

His lineups this season have mostly consisted of 4 central midfielders across the middle and they are all preffy defensive ones, with Kaka as a support striker to either of Inzaghi or Gilardinho.

What a tard.

Here is an example:

----------------Inzaghi--------

----------Kaka---------------

Ambrosini--Gattuso---Pirlo--seedorf

It's fucking tragic; no wingers or wide player whatsoever and his most creative player being wasted up top.

here's how it SHOULD be

-------inzaghi-----------Ronaldo

----------------Kaka-------------

--Seedorf--------Pirlo----gattuso----

oh yes.

Rich

24-12-07, 03:05 PM

What's even stranger is sticking Ambrosini up front when they're chasing a game! :rash:

ivan

24-12-07, 03:10 PM

The were crap last season and we know what happened. I'm sure they will be completely different team in champions league. Milan is the oldest team in Europe and aware they can't play matches every week on the highest level. That's why they cant win scudeto, but in champions league they can beat anyone

Craig_H

24-12-07, 03:51 PM

I didn't know the Milan derby was on at the weekend as i rarely look at italian fixtures now. I'd have whacked £200 on Inter if i did. They won 2-1. Did you see their odds syd?

Just over evens, i think. 6/5 perhaps, if i recall correctly.

desertscouser

24-12-07, 04:15 PM

What's even stranger is sticking Ambrosini up front when they're chasing a game! :rash:

It's ludicrous. Ancelloti's meltdown is similar to what we faced under GH when he completely lost the plot.

Arsenal are going to tear them a new one.

dww

24-12-07, 05:10 PM

It's ludicrous. Ancelloti's meltdown is similar to what we faced under GH when he completely lost the plot.

Arsenal are going to tear them a new one.
I have a feeling it will be a lot tighter than people think. They are a different team in Europe. In addition will they have that Pato kid by the time they meet Arsenal, won't they?

Having said that if Arsenal get an early goal then their youth and energy would make me revise my impression of things.

MindGuerrillas

24-12-07, 05:18 PM

What a tard.

Here is an example:

----------------Inzaghi--------

----------Kaka---------------

Ambrosini--Gattuso---Pirlo--seedorf

It's fucking tragic; no wingers or wide player whatsoever and his most creative player being wasted up top.

That's the way they've always done it. It's also the team and system they used last year when they ripped United apart in the CL. Perhaps it's not as stupid as you think. Their league form is woeful this year and could be down to any number of reasons but to blame it on a system that they have played and been VERY successful with over the years is perhaps a bit misguided.

AFII

24-12-07, 05:22 PM

dww

24-12-07, 05:38 PM

They have a to old team with a lot of players that can't be bottered to turn up for a normal game in the league. Only the big games are important for them.

They will need to replace almost the whole squad the next two, three years. Maureen won't have an easy job to turn them around.

I'm not sure Mourinho would be the right choice for them. Unless they have an exceptional director of football to work alongside him, who he would get on with. Considering his expenditure I don't think his buys were great at Chelsea. Much of the core of 'his' team were bought in under Ranieri.

cobain

25-12-07, 12:25 PM

I hope Milan get relegated. Forever.

Alpha

25-12-07, 06:19 PM

Of Milan's 27-man squad (including Pato), only 9, yes 9 are the right side of 30.

And 2 of those 9 are 29.

Their average age is almost 30.5.

Unreal.

ivan

25-12-07, 06:31 PM

If Milan played in Premiership, they would finish 5th. If they played in CL against England teams, they would beat all of the big four. You'll see against Arsenal, they're gonna destroy gunners

Joe King

25-12-07, 08:10 PM

They have experience which is massive in any competition. They have been playing together as a collective group for a very long time which has helped them reach a few Champions League finals since 2000. Look at the current Arsenal crop, they have played together for a long time and they are reaping the rewards so far.

wiw

26-12-07, 02:02 AM

That's the way they've always done it. It's also the team and system they used last year when they ripped United apart in the CL. Perhaps it's not as stupid as you think. Their league form is woeful this year and could be down to any number of reasons but to blame it on a system that they have played and been VERY successful with over the years is perhaps a bit misguided.

I was under the impression they always played Kaka behind two strikers? Up until last season possibly..I'm not actually sure someone would have to look it up :D

But comparing the two finals we played in isolation, they went from Scheva and Crespo up top to Inazaghi on his own..

loco_law

26-12-07, 02:28 AM

Nic83

26-12-07, 04:03 PM

That's the way they've always done it. It's also the team and system they used last year when they ripped United apart in the CL. Perhaps it's not as stupid as you think. Their league form is woeful this year and could be down to any number of reasons but to blame it on a system that they have played and been VERY successful with over the years is perhaps a bit misguided.

It isn't mate. In their pomp they had Kaka in behind Sheva and Crespo. that's the trio that tore us up in the first half of the 2005 final. And to have no wide men is absolutely ridiculous when most of the opposition they play against in Italy will come and park 11 behind the ball. Kaka is wasted up there this season and this is why he has hardly got near his form of last year...

Rich

26-12-07, 05:09 PM

They do have some width - Maldini and Oddo have got into decent positions, but they're suffering with having no one finishing things and way too many men wallowing in central areas. Plus Ambrosini is crap....

bazza76

26-12-07, 08:45 PM

If Milan played in Premiership, they would finish 5th. If they played in CL against England teams, they would beat all of the big four. You'll see against Arsenal, they're gonna destroy gunners
The above statement is pure guesswork, and judging on current form, is way off the mark, I think we would take them for starters, and Arsenal have a great chance, United would also have a point to prove against them, while the chavs would be a very tough nut to crack with far more energy and power in their side than Milan would have.
To say they would finish 5th aswell..........

Alpha

26-12-07, 09:00 PM

It isn't mate. In their pomp they had Kaka in behind Sheva and Crespo. that's the trio that tore us up in the first half of the 2005 final. And to have no wide men is absolutely ridiculous when most of the opposition they play against in Italy will come and park 11 behind the ball. Kaka is wasted up there this season and this is why he has hardly got near his form of last year...
They've played with a narrow midfield for some time now - always relying on the fullbacks to get forwards.

I agree it worked a lot better with two strikers - Inzaghi is a master of traversing along the back-line and Sheva used to drift too so they would both end up in wide positions, supporting the full-backs.

MindGuerrillas

26-12-07, 09:05 PM

It isn't mate. In their pomp they had Kaka in behind Sheva and Crespo. that's the trio that tore us up in the first half of the 2005 final. And to have no wide men is absolutely ridiculous when most of the opposition they play against in Italy will come and park 11 behind the ball. Kaka is wasted up there this season and this is why he has hardly got near his form of last year...

I wasn't really talking about whether they played with 1 or 2 strikers more the fact that they never played with much in the way of width. Even when they had Shev and Crespo up front with kaka behind they still had a midfield of gattuso, pirlo and seedorf - none of which are what you'd call wingers. The original poster and yourself are blaming their current plight on a lack of width which is something they never had even when at their best. The only width they had then came from the full backs.