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scully
16-09-06, 10:42 AM
Here's an article from today's Guardian that's good for a laugh. However, coming on top of the Tevez/Mascherano farce, the farce that is Chelsea, the bung enquiry and more and more Premiership clubs being bought by corrupt foreign businessmen, it's actually food for thought. Money and hype really are destroying the game.

Is Grand Slam Sunday too exciting?

Barney Ronay, The Guardian, Saturday September 16, 2006


It's almost time for Grand Slam Sunday on Sky Sports. I know this because all week an excitingly chunky GRAND SLAM SUNDAY graphic has been popping up on my TV screen accompanied by the words: "Don't forget! It's Grand Slam Sunday!" Why grand slam? Because all four "majors" are in action: Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool and Manchester United. And it really is very exciting. When Richard Keys looked straight into camera on Wednesday night, eyes moist with a kind of glee that can only be described as sensual, and said "Don't forget! It's Grand Slam Sunday!", something primal stirred within me. Could this be the most exciting day in the most exciting league on the most exciting TV channel and, by extension, the most exciting occasion not just in the history of civilisation but in any humanly imaginable future? Quite possibly, yes. Which is all very well - but is it dangerous?

Levels of excitement this high can often stray into something sinister. The Victorians would often talk of elderly relatives suffering from excitement or "enthusiasms" shortly before locking them up in a draughty sanatorium; as in, "Mother has been terribly excited of late - she talks of nothing but fairies, strange mists and Andy Gray shouting 'You just do not save those - take a bow, son!'" It's definitely contagious, too. This week, just imagining how loud the Sky Sports "whoosh" noises are going to be when a graphic appears on screen, or a replay is queued up, I began to hear my own whooshing noises. Pour milk into bowl - whoosh! Leave house - whoosh! Go back for umbrella, barking shin on chair leg in haste - whoosh!

Asked to give an opinion on anything at all I imagined myself answering in a fast-edited montage, with shots of a moody Jose Mourinho, Rio Ferdinand jumping on my back, and Arsène Wenger shaking my hand as I say, "No, I don't think it is going to rain after all."

There may be another side to all this. Some observers of the Grand Slam Sunday phenomenon have suggested it may be possible for something to be so exciting that it becomes, in practice, really boring instead. In which case, what are we to make of all this apparent excitement, not least among Keys and his fellow Sky presenters? How do you tell if something is actually exciting, or if the people excited by it are just excited by their own excitement at being so excited, like a bunch of giggly six-year-olds who keep saying the word "cheese" until it becomes the most hilarious thing since somebody kept saying the word "orange" last week.

Most likely, rather than the dangerous force of nature it might appear, the excitement surrounding Grand Slam Sunday is willed excitement, like the willed high spirits of a bunch of Americans shouting "Whoo!" and "Get in the hole!" at each other until they're convinced they must be having a good time. Peer pressure is at work here. The excellent Martin Tyler, ringmaster for the occasion, was almost demoted last season for not sounding constantly excited enough, although he has since remembered to shout "DROGBA!" a lot more.

On reflection, Grand Slam Sunday is possibly not the threat to public health it seems at first glance. But just to be on the safe side, here's hoping for a couple of 0-0 draws.

kopdan
16-09-06, 11:06 AM
top level football is no longer a sport, its a business. I am going to start watching Chester City as that is close to what football was.

rnm
16-09-06, 11:09 AM
but the game itself, do you not still enjoy the game itself?

kopdan
16-09-06, 01:09 PM
sometimes there are some good games but I have seen much better lower league games this year and last.

paulcooper4
16-09-06, 02:12 PM
top level football is no longer a sport, its a business. I am going to start watching Chester City as that is close to what football was.
http://www.chestercity-mad.co.uk/
bye:crackoff:

Tom
18-09-06, 08:42 PM
Football is a bag of shite. I only continue to watch and support because it's become a kind of reflex action. :(

CharlieMansonsSquint
18-09-06, 10:16 PM
I'm going to try watching televised games with the commentary off, and not watching any of the pre and post match analysis. I suspect it will make a massive difference.

Agree with Dans point. I've been to a couple of Partick Thistle matches recently. A friendly community atmosphere for a change. A million miles away from the Hollywood shite were used too at the top.

tsb
18-09-06, 10:16 PM
Football is a bag of shite. I only continue to watch and support because it's become a kind of reflex action. :(

I'm quiick to agree to this. Can't be arsed to watch anyone at the moment. World Cup hangover?

Neil Young
19-09-06, 08:40 AM
I'm going to try watching televised games with the commentary off, and not watching any of the pre and post match analysis. I suspect it will make a massive difference.

Agree with Dans point. I've been to a couple of Partick Thistle matches recently. A friendly community atmosphere for a change. A million miles away from the Hollywood shite were used too at the top.

I usually don't watch pre and post match analysis (although i occasionally do if we win) and I certainly feel a lot better for it.

During the WC I used the "match sound" option on BBC including for the Portugal game. It's really much better, more relaxing and more involving since you haven't got someone "explaining" what's going on. I wish Sky would do it as an option but then of course we wouldn't benefit from their fine expert analysis let alone all those plugs for other Sky programmes.

I missed the Chelsea game on Sunday because it clashed with my son's game. Choosing which to watch wasn't a hard decision - it's a hell of a lot more exciting and interesting being at a game than listening to the hype pumped out by TV.

Bob
19-09-06, 05:49 PM
I'm going to try watching televised games with the commentary off, and not watching any of the pre and post match analysis. I suspect it will make a massive difference.

Agree with Dans point. I've been to a couple of Partick Thistle matches recently. A friendly community atmosphere for a change. A million miles away from the Hollywood shite were used too at the top.

Sweet Jasus, i just choked on my prawn crackers there!

Partick Thistle are the biggest pile of stodgy sh1te i've ever witnessed. To be fair i haven't seen them in a while...

Going to see dundee host ross county soon and am dreading it :(

PTP
19-09-06, 05:55 PM
top level football is no longer a sport, its a business. I am going to start watching Chester City as that is close to what football was.
:haha:

to be honest i agree tho, i prefer watching good standard amatuer football. A few of my mates play in West Cheshire league at a good standard and watching them is always good.

Mattshark
19-09-06, 05:56 PM
Go and see Bangor occasionally, it is cheap and a good laugh, though no one seems to know what a pass is. I could never give up watching Liverpool though.

Bob
19-09-06, 06:27 PM
Go and see Bangor occasionally, it is cheap and a good laugh, though no one seems to know what a pass is. I could never give up watching Liverpool though.

Bangor - wales, or Bangor - Irish.

If Irish then it's good for comedy if nothing else.

One of the best football matches i've ever seen was Loughgall 3 - Omagh 4

Honestly :grr:

Mattshark
19-09-06, 06:34 PM
Go and see Bangor occasionally, it is cheap and a good laugh, though no one seems to know what a pass is. I could never give up watching Liverpool though.
Wales.

CharlieMansonsSquint
19-09-06, 07:36 PM
Sweet Jasus, i just choked on my prawn crackers there!

Partick Thistle are the biggest pile of stodgy sh1te i've ever witnessed. To be fair i haven't seen them in a while...

Going to see dundee host ross county soon and am dreading it :(

LOL. Yes they are complete shite, but that's not what I was talking about.

In the lower leagues - up here at least - the banter between rival fans never gets vicious, and there's no threat of violence obviously. It's a billion miles away from an old firm game, which from this neutral's perspective was the worst footballing experience ever. Just horrible.

Bob
19-09-06, 07:53 PM
LOL. Yes they are complete shite, but that's not what I was talking about.

In the lower leagues - up here at least - the banter between rival fans never gets vicious, and there's no threat of violence obviously. It's a billion miles away from an old firm game, which from this neutral's perspective was the worst footballing experience ever. Just horrible.

Yes both sides seem to be heading in the right direction though. It will take time though, granted! Maybe one day i'll return to an old firm game and bask in the atmosphere rather than the sheer sectarianism :(

I'll certainly agree on lower leagues, i mean even Aberdeen are bitter ***** - gawd i hate those fuckers. But what annoys me is that a Dundee game is £16, i mean FFS that's scandalous for the quality of football on offer and leaves the stadiums empty and devoid of atmosphere!

I feel for the kids. Few fathers are gonna bring them along to break up a Saturday with those costs. Sad.

Slim
19-09-06, 07:54 PM
Bangor - wales, or Bangor - Irish.

If Irish then it's good for comedy if nothing else.

One of the best football matches i've ever seen was Loughgall 3 - Omagh 4

Honestly :grr:

There's nowt wrong with the mighty Seasiders Bob! I was at Windsor when Bangor destroyed Linfield 5-1 in a league match in the early 90s :D .......I was also at the Irish Cup semi in April when Linfield stuffed Bangor :miffed:

CharlieMansonsSquint
19-09-06, 08:00 PM
Yes both sides seem to be heading in the right direction though. It will take time though, granted! Maybe one day i'll return to an old firm game and bask in the atmosphere rather than the sheer sectarianism :(

I'll certainly agree on lower leagues, i mean even Aberdeen are bitter ***** - gawd i hate those fuckers. But what annoys me is that a Dundee game is £16, i mean FFS that's scandalous for the quality of football on offer and leaves the stadiums empty and devoid of atmosphere!

I feel for the kids. Few fathers are gonna bring them along to break up a Saturday with those costs. Sad.

The kids should get in for free if they are with a parent. Much fuller stadiums. How is this not a bad idea?

Bob
19-09-06, 08:04 PM
There's nowt wrong with the mighty Seasiders Bob! I was at Windsor when Bangor destroyed Linfield 5-1 in a league match in the early 90s :D .......I was also at the Irish Cup semi in April when Linfield stuffed Bangor :miffed:

It was more a slight at the league in general. :handshake:

I used to love watching the goals on the news (read by that guy with the perm presumably for added comedic value)!

Some of defending on that was priceless - virtually guaranteed to howl in joy.

A Portadown man myself, but found myself leaning more towards little old Loughgall (more local) as they were starting up under Wylie when i was a cub.

Bob
19-09-06, 08:07 PM
The kids should get in for free if they are with a parent. Much fuller stadiums. How is this not a bad idea?

Just checked the prices for Dundee...

Adults £15 Concessions £10 Child £7 Parent/Child £20.

My bad. Still pretty high IMO.

Slim
19-09-06, 08:23 PM
It was more a slight at the league in general. :handshake:

I used to love watching the goals on the news (read by that guy with the perm presumably for added comedic value)!

Some of defending on that was priceless - virtually guaranteed to howl in joy.

A Portadown man myself, but found myself leaning more towards little old Loughgall (more local) as they were starting up under Wylie when i was a cub.


The goals on the news aren't as entertaining as they used to be as now the standard of the camera work has improved and you can actually see the goals!! I seem to remember as a kid when you saw the coverage on Monday evening's news it seemed to consist of somebody having a shot and then the cameraman taking an eternity to find the ball nestling in the back of the net and players celebrating in front of the usual 15 people behind the goal!!

Oh and I agree the league is a load of cack but its competitive and you do still get quality banter at the games......and really you need a bit of a laugh if you find yourself at Clandeboye on a Saturday afternoon!! :D :handshake: