Title wish list in order....(incl PTP's Blueshite rant)

[Sisterstiffticket]

Actually, I should want teams out of the top four to win the league for a change and yes, it would be great for the league.
But sometimes, my hatred of teams/clubs goes deeper than the good of football.
So...here is, in order, the teams I would like to see win the title.

Don't laugh because I know it's not going to happen but it's a good way tpo see who we hate in what order.

1. TOTTENHAM
2. HULL CITY
3. WEST BROM
4. STOKE
5. SUNDERLAND
6. WIGAN
7. ASTON VILLA
8. FULHAM
9. MIDDLESBOROUGH
10. LIVERPOOL
11. BOLTON
12. BLACKBURN
13. EVERTON
14. MAN CITY
15. NEWCASTLE
16. PORTSMOUTH
17. MANURE
18. CHAVSKI
19. WEST SHAM
20. GOONERSCUM

TOUGH...ONCE I GOT TO 11, I FOUND IT EASIER TO WORK UP FROM THE BOTTOM!

[Matt]

How come Pompey are so low down? Can't be a regional thing surely?

[Assassin]

Actually, I should want teams out of the top four to win the league for a change and yes, it would be great for the league.
But sometimes, my hatred of teams/clubs goes deeper than the good of football.
So...here is, in order, the teams I would like to see win the title.

Don't laugh because I know it's not going to happen but it's a good way tpo see who we hate in what order.

1. TOTTENHAM
2. HULL CITY
3. WEST BROM
4. STOKE
5. SUNDERLAND
6. WIGAN
7. ASTON VILLA
8. FULHAM
9. MIDDLESBOROUGH
10. LIVERPOOL
11. BOLTON
12. BLACKBURN
13. EVERTON
14. MAN CITY
15. NEWCASTLE
16. PORTSMOUTH
17. MANURE
18. CHAVSKI
19. WEST SHAM
20. GOONERSCUM

TOUGH...ONCE I GOT TO 11, I FOUND IT EASIER TO WORK UP FROM THE BOTTOM!

So we are blessed with your company on here because you only half hate us :haha:

[Darth Marty]

easy -

1st - Liverpool

Middle - everyone else in no particular order

Last - Man Utd

:handshake:

[Red_Polo]

So we are blessed with your company on here because you only half hate us :haha:

That's a good level though. Not done anything to deserve genuine hate but got results against his team enough times to make indifference an impossibility :D

[Sisterstiffticket]

wELL, ACTUALLY, i DON'T HATE lIVERPOOL...HONESTLY. iN FACT, ONCE i GOT THAT FAR DOWN, i HAD TO GO TO THE BOTTOM BECAUSE THE BOTTOM HALF IS THE HATRED HALF! pORTSMOUTH SIMPLY BECAUSE OF cAMPBELL THE JUDAS SCUM PIECE OF SHIT TRAITOR AND....hARRY (wHAT A FUCKING CHARACTER) rEDNOSE. (mISERABLE FUCKING SECOND HAND ESSEX CAR SALESMAN)

Bolox....Caps!

[MrsB]

Awww, West Brom 3rd, I like. :)

[wiw]

Awww, West Brom 3rd, I like. :)

hmmm...who's Mrs are you MrsB? Just remember someone mentioning their wife support West Brom ages ago

[MrsB]

hmmm...who's Mrs are you MrsB? Just remember someone mentioning their wife support West Brom ages ago

Not an ESTer's Mrs, and I support Liverpool, not West Brom, just have a soft spot for the Baggies.

[wiw]

Not an ESTer's Mrs, and I support Liverpool, not West Brom, just have a soft spot for the Baggies.

Ah ok..:handshake:

[Joe King]

Ah ok..:handshake:

Shes a brummie :handshake:

[Sisterstiffticket]

Me too Mrs B...Wolves too, oddly enough. I put Hull second because they are now the second nearest Prem club to where I live!

[JohnDoe]

My list:

1. Liverpool
2. West Brom- They're a lovely bunch.
3. Man City- A nice yet miserable bunch. I feel sorry for them and want them to do well.
4. Portsmouth- Good fans, nice atmosphere, other than that twat with the bell.
5. West Ham- Used to be 2nd. Respect them for the cup final and decent fans. Have become a bit annoying lately.
6. Wigan- Eat too many pies. Other than that, they're okay.
7. Fulham- They're like good referees, you don't notice they're there.
8. Sunderland- Are fine by me, but Diouf is playing for them now and they've been giving the mancs free money lately.
9. Hull- Shithole of a place.
10. Stoke- Don't care.
11. Blackburn- Thugs.
12. Bolton- Modern Wimbledon.
13. Middlesbrough- No fans. Plastic football club.
14. Aston Villa- Boring cunts. No one cares about you. MO'N= tosser.
15. Tottenham- Deluded cunts. Losers. Bottlers.
16. Newcastle- Small time cunts. Boo their team, no class.
17. Arsenal- Arrogant "we play the best football in the country" cunts. Suck Arsene's cock everyday.
18. Chelsea- Chav cunts, shit fans. No history.
19. Everton- Utter, utter cunts. Unbearable.
20. Man United- Hideous cunts. Close to 18. Must be stopped.

[Sisterstiffticket]

:haha::haha::haha:

You alright now John? I could feel the blood pressure rising as I went down the list!:haha::haha::rock:

[Exiled_red]

1.Liverpool


17. Arsenal
18. Chelsea
19. Everton
20. Man United

Apart from those I'm not bothered who fits where into the gaps

[slimbimjim]

1. Liverpool
2. Sunderland

I actually have a soft spot for Sunderland since the documentary about old big ears as manager. They went downhill after that.

As much as a cunt Keane is I feel he is a different person as a manager and should be given some respect however begrudgingly.

[MrsB]

Me too Mrs B...Wolves too, oddly enough. I put Hull second because they are now the second nearest Prem club to where I live!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZvHgMKGfEA

;)

[Darkon]

If anyone but liverpool should win the PL this season, I would hope for Portsmouth ...

[Parm]

So we are blessed with your company on here because you only half hate us :haha:

haha, so ambivelent arent we

[bobbyfallon]

1. pool 92 points + 40 goal difference
2. everton 92 points + 39 goal difference

dont care about the middle

18. arsenal
19. chelsea
20. united

[dww]

1. Liverpool
2. Sunderland

I actually have a soft spot for Sunderland since the documentary about old big ears as manager. They went downhill after that.

As much as a cunt Keane is I feel he is a different person as a manager and should be given some respect however begrudgingly.

I have a soft spot for Sunderland too. I imagine Sisterstiffticket will remember that their fans came in big numbers to York games when they were struggling to escape financial ruin and did collections at their ground too. The club also loaned them a goalie for free. The fans did the same for Cambridge United (not the loaning them a keeper bit obviously) which is even more impressive.

[PTP]

Ok - i found it easier to put liverpool first and then work from the bottom

1. Liverpool
2. Stoke City (i lived there for three years)
3. Hull City (my sister lived there for three years)
4. Man City
5. West Brom
6. Wigan
7. Pompey
8. Sunderland
9. Fulham
10. West Ham
11. Blackburn
12. Spurs
13. Middlesborough
14. Villa
15. Newcastle
16. Bolton
17. Arsenal
18. Chelsea
19. Everton
20. Man United

[PTP]

1. pool 92 points + 40 goal difference
2. everton 92 points + 39 goal difference

dont care about the middle

18. arsenal
19. chelsea
20. united

u would rather Everton won the league over chelsea and united!!!! fuck me it would be unbearable on merseyside if everton won the league!!!

[bobbyfallon]

u would rather Everton won the league over chelsea and united!!!! fuck me it would be unbearable on merseyside if everton won the league!!!

no we win it on goals difference :handshake:

sicken them completely

[PTP]

oh aye hahaha i failed to notice that - just looked at ur bottom three

yes i'd fucking love it!!!! - oh and it was a last minute, injury time winner by Steven Gerrard, who was offside, controled it with his hand, then punched the keeper in the bollocks leaving him on the floor and gerrard taps in!!1

mmmmwwwahhahahahaha

[tommyg]

i cant see who you missed? :sigh:

[bobbyfallon]

oh aye hahaha i failed to notice that - just looked at ur bottom three

yes i'd fucking love it!!!! - oh and it was a last minute, injury time winner by Steven Gerrard, who was offside, controled it with his hand, then punched the keeper in the bollocks leaving him on the floor and gerrard taps in!!1

mmmmwwwahhahahahaha

be perfect wouldnt it :haha:

there was me thinking for a minute that you were missing the day they done maths at skool

[Red_Polo]

1. pool 92 points + 40 goal difference
2. everton 92 points + 39 goal difference

dont care about the middle

18. arsenal
19. chelsea
20. united

It's not a 'dream final table' though, it's in order of preference - you're basically saying if we can't win the league you want Everton to!

:jaw: :crackoff:

It would be hilarious to pip them to a title. More so for us to win a title and see them relegated though :D

[Darth Marty]

I cant see why so many reds hate the blues. Personally im quite liking everton and loved the days when we were all mixed up in wembley watching the cup finals. Id far rather that sort of relationship than the one which we have with the mancs.

Honestly if we didnt win the league and I had to pick a team to win it Everton would be in my top 3.

[Sisterstiffticket]

I have a soft spot for Sunderland too. I imagine Sisterstiffticket will remember that their fans came in big numbers to York games when they were struggling to escape financial ruin and did collections at their ground too. The club also loaned them a goalie for free. The fans did the same for Cambridge United (not the loaning them a keeper bit obviously) which is even more impressive.


I do indeed. Great stuff and it brought a tear to my eye from behind the terraces. (Where were Midd'boro) bastards!

But as for Sunderland, as a kid I loved the name, the kit, and the club reekeds of history. A byegone time. The same reason I love Wolves, WBA and one or two othere.

[MrsB]

I cant see why so many reds hate the blues. Personally im quite liking everton and loved the days when we were all mixed up in wembley watching the cup finals. Id far rather that sort of relationship than the one which we have with the mancs.

Honestly if we didnt win the league and I had to pick a team to win it Everton would be in my top 3.

I don't hate Everton either, and unlike many ESTers I don't have a problem with Villa. Ok, MO'N is a twat, but Villa is a cool club (I'm actually jealous of their owner). And I've always loved their colours. West Ham on the other hand are kit stealers and would appear near the end of my wish list.

[Darth Marty]

ha ha I am not particularly fond of Villa personally but by fuck what id do to have Lerner as our owner!! Good call!

[slimbimjim]

I have a soft spot for Sunderland too. I imagine Sisterstiffticket will remember that their fans came in big numbers to York games when they were struggling to escape financial ruin and did collections at their ground too. The club also loaned them a goalie for free. The fans did the same for Cambridge United (not the loaning them a keeper bit obviously) which is even more impressive.

Wow I didn't know that!

I have a bit more respect now. Far more than those wankers in Newcastle.

[Red_Polo]

I cant see why so many reds hate the blues. Personally im quite liking everton and loved the days when we were all mixed up in wembley watching the cup finals. Id far rather that sort of relationship than the one which we have with the mancs.

Honestly if we didnt win the league and I had to pick a team to win it Everton would be in my top 3.

You must be fucking joking? Never hear the end of it.

[Darth Marty]

nah mate im not, id far rather the blue side of Liverpool won the damn thing than most other clubs. Ive never ever disliked Everton and really wonder where and why over the past 15 years we have grown to bitch so much about each other.

[PTP]

Darth - the reason I, and i'd imagine why so many other esters have a strong dislike for the blueshite - is for the past 10-15 years I have had to live with the constant fucking moaning, slagging us off, blaming us for everything all the way to extreme hatred were we get called fucking murdering bastards! I agree - before that, when everton were doing ok, the atmosphere wasn't that bad, good banter, mickey taking etc etc - but i have been right in the middle of it all too see it change! - i have seen best mates fighting over it cause the blue nose called a lad a murdering bastard etc

I understand there is an arguement that two wrongs don't make a right - but i have always been a fair and honest person when talking football with opposition fans, mainly cause at uni there was only me and one other red(who didn't really follow footy) so i was always dragged into debates - but last season (and i either posted or started a thread on here when it happened) the derby at home was the final straw! I have never had hatred for everton but there sheer hatred towards us means i fucking despise the cunts now, not like the mancs but in a way where i'd be fucking happy if they just fucked off - an absoloute fucking classless bunch of fucking idiots - and i am not just talking about the 'scum' element that every club 'has'.....I had mates I play football with, good lads, good jobs, good upbringing etc etc calling us murderers.. I turned up to footy after the derby, hadn't said a word just walked over said alright lads and one lad turned round ans said "fuck off u stuffy murderin twat!" -

They have developed such a deep hatred of us through sheer jealousy and bitterness over the last 10 years or more that there is no going back for them. If they were relegated, we'd take the piss when it happend and then move on - fuck me if we got relegated they would be fucking selling DVD's of it in the club shop - and whats more it would be their biggest selling DVD ever!!!

I rarely if either wind up any off my mates who support other clubs - obv have plenty of banter and piss taking etc but nothing like the fucking bitterness they show towards us, eg - when me won the european cup, after the celebrations etc the first and only opposition fan i text was a manc fan, and to be fair he took it well - i wasn't arsed about Everton cause they are insignificant

but fuck me......the pub last saturday, we go one nil down and within 5 mins I had received about 7 texts laughing at us all from random bluenoses - some that I haven't spoke too in 6 months! (obv i never bothered replying Steven Gerrard did that for me)

Another example - on facebook i must have say 100 mates that are reds and i rarely see status updates from them saying things like "hahaha unlucky u fucking blueshite" etc etc - I log onto facebook this morning and at least 10 blueshite mates have changed their status "to fucking stuffy redshite scum" etc etc etc -

They are a bunch of fucking idiots - they are nothing other than a fucking obsessed stalker! Half of them are more bothered about what Liverpool do than their own fucking club!!! - another example - I go the pub regulary and watch loads of footie there - if everton play, at most u might get a few jeers from reds fans if something goes against them - but fucking me if liverpool are on and we concede to say West Brom - u'd think it meant Everton had won the fucking league!!!!! On saturday - in our local, they have tv's everywhere and they had the liverpool match on, but by the bar they had a pc streaming everton with about 10 or so blues watching it.........They cheered louder when middlesborough scored than they did their own team - and fucking went nuts when we won and stormed out the pub shouting "stuffy fucking red cunts etc" despite the fact their own team had won!!!!!!

They are a small time club, that need to fucking wake up, we are not to blame for them having a shit ground, we are not to blame that noone wants to sign for them, we are not to blame that they didn't win the European Cup, and we certainly aren't to blame for the fact they can't sell their tickets and have to advertise half price season tickets at christmas and have schemes like fucking 'ladies day'!!!! hahaha - they are not the peoples club and they certainly aren't the fucking school of science!!!


Sadly tho for 99% of them -things are that bad for them that they only enjoyment they get from being Everton fans is their hatred towards Liverpool

So fuck them

[bobbyfallon]

ptp

surely this must be a younger generation shouting murderers etc ????

im not old enuf myself to remember everything but have seen and read plenty on liverpool fc and its tragedies.

i thought the city stood together on these sort of things as in family and friends were lost ???

also that young lad (shot i think) little blue. they played evertons song at anfield. how can they not even remember that

[jono]

Darth - the reason I, and i'd imagine why so many other esters have a strong dislike for the blueshite - is for the past 10-15 years I have had to live with the constant fucking moaning, slagging us off, blaming us for everything all the way to extreme hatred were we get called fucking murdering bastards! I agree - before that, when everton were doing ok, the atmosphere wasn't that bad, good banter, mickey taking etc etc - but i have been right in the middle of it all too see it change! - i have seen best mates fighting over it cause the blue nose called a lad a murdering bastard etc

I understand there is an arguement that two wrongs don't make a right - but i have always been a fair and honest person when talking football with opposition fans, mainly cause at uni there was only me and one other red(who didn't really follow footy) so i was always dragged into debates - but last season (and i either posted or started a thread on here when it happened) the derby at home was the final straw! I have never had hatred for everton but there sheer hatred towards us means i fucking despise the cunts now, not like the mancs but in a way where i'd be fucking happy if they just fucked off - an absoloute fucking classless bunch of fucking idiots - and i am not just talking about the 'scum' element that every club 'has'.....I had mates I play football with, good lads, good jobs, good upbringing etc etc calling us murderers.. I turned up to footy after the derby, hadn't said a word just walked over said alright lads and one lad turned round ans said "fuck off u stuffy murderin twat!" -

They have developed such a deep hatred of us through sheer jealousy and bitterness over the last 10 years or more that there is no going back for them. If they were relegated, we'd take the piss when it happend and then move on - fuck me if we got relegated they would be fucking selling DVD's of it in the club shop - and whats more it would be their biggest selling DVD ever!!!

I rarely if either wind up any off my mates who support other clubs - obv have plenty of banter and piss taking etc but nothing like the fucking bitterness they show towards us, eg - when me won the european cup, after the celebrations etc the first and only opposition fan i text was a manc fan, and to be fair he took it well - i wasn't arsed about Everton cause they are insignificant

but fuck me......the pub last saturday, we go one nil down and within 5 mins I had received about 7 texts laughing at us all from random bluenoses - some that I haven't spoke too in 6 months! (obv i never bothered replying Steven Gerrard did that for me)

Another example - on facebook i must have say 100 mates that are reds and i rarely see status updates from them saying things like "hahaha unlucky u fucking blueshite" etc etc - I log onto facebook this morning and at least 10 blueshite mates have changed their status "to fucking stuffy redshite scum" etc etc etc -

They are a bunch of fucking idiots - they are nothing other than a fucking obsessed stalker! Half of them are more bothered about what Liverpool do than their own fucking club!!! - another example - I go the pub regulary and watch loads of footie there - if everton play, at most u might get a few jeers from reds fans if something goes against them - but fucking me if liverpool are on and we concede to say West Brom - u'd think it meant Everton had won the fucking league!!!!! On saturday - in our local, they have tv's everywhere and they had the liverpool match on, but by the bar they had a pc streaming everton with about 10 or so blues watching it.........They cheered louder when middlesborough scored than they did their own team - and fucking went nuts when we won and stormed out the pub shouting "stuffy fucking red cunts etc" despite the fact their own team had won!!!!!!

They are a small time club, that need to fucking wake up, we are not to blame for them having a shit ground, we are not to blame that noone wants to sign for them, we are not to blame that they didn't win the European Cup, and we certainly aren't to blame for the fact they can't sell their tickets and have to advertise half price season tickets at christmas and have schemes like fucking 'ladies day'!!!! hahaha - they are not the peoples club and they certainly aren't the fucking school of science!!!


Sadly tho for 99% of them -things are that bad for them that they only enjoyment they get from being Everton fans is their hatred towards Liverpool

So fuck them

What he said!!:handshake:

[PTP]

ptp

surely this must be a younger generation shouting murderers etc ????

im not old enuf myself to remember everything but have seen and read plenty on liverpool fc and its tragedies.

i thought the city stood together on these sort of things as in family and friends were lost ???

also that young lad (shot i think) little blue. they played evertons song at anfield. how can they not even remember that

gutted i typed out a great reply and internet crashed :haha: - i'll attempt to remember it!

[PTP]

ptp

surely this must be a younger generation shouting murderers etc ????

im not old enuf myself to remember everything but have seen and read plenty on liverpool fc and its tragedies.

i thought the city stood together on these sort of things as in family and friends were lost ???

also that young lad (shot i think) little blue. they played evertons song at anfield. how can they not even remember that

you would think so.....

and in times of serious tragic events - liverpool as a city come together and stand strong

but when it comes to football, it's become almost like a 'terrace cliquey fashion thing' for them and if u don't become part of this cult you are discarded - all everton fans seem to connect together as one single collective and a single way of thinking - it's like it starts in the middle of the gladys street and slowly assimilates everyone around it "resistance is futile" - they tap into some kinda radio frequency that only they can pick up - with a constant droning voice being programmed into their one collective brain - "BLAME THE REDSHITE MURDERING CUNTS" being constantly beamed into them.


As i mentioned last year at the derby - at the time i didn't realise but it turned out I was alongside a fellow ester outside anfield road after the game...think it was nobbylad...... there was this fucking cunt, easily in his mid 30's didn't look like a scally at all, casually pushing through the crowd and just shouting "I hope u are happy u won you murdering cunts!!"

Despite the fact the was easily 700 or probably more of the cunts behind chanting it - this little fucking cunt stood out - i felt my fist clench up as he walked towards and my blood boil, i was going to fucking deck this cunt, but then in the corner of my eye i glance to my right to see about 6 policeman on horses and one standing on the wall filming the crowd - i wasn't getting banned from anfield for sparking this cunt out!!

[bobbyfallon]

ta for clearing that up

[Darth Marty]

Seriously though thanks for taking the time to type that because not living there i dont have any of that shit you see, i still remember the good old days where we got on really well. Makes sense i guess because they have dropped off so badly whereas we have still been there or thereabouts.

Nice one mate.

[PTP]

Seriously though thanks for taking the time to type that because not living there i dont have any of that shit you see, i still remember the good old days where we got on really well. Makes sense i guess because they have dropped off so badly whereas we have still been there or thereabouts.

Nice one mate.

:D no worries - haha i went on a bit of rant, but thats how it's got lately

if i did a kinda of timescale for my age group - 26 it's kinda gone like this

earliest memories

the merseyside cup finals of 86 and 89 - better memories of 89 as i was 7, and just getting into football, understanding it etc - i remember sitting in a bar in corfu with my dad to watch the cup final - we sat with a big group of fellas, that were all scousers on holiday together and there was a split of like 6 reds and 6 blues - i can remember them enjoying the game, sitting together and having a laugh etc etc - good atmoshpere and i remember thinking thats strange, why does he have a blue shirt on and he is laughing and joking with the guy in the red shirt.

I remember being a red and having mates who wer eblue and having no issues with them whatever - tho bearing in mind a was a kid and was more concerned who the best thudercat was (panthro)

growing up

through the early 90's secondary school - there was plenty of banter at school between mates - some banter developed into debates and then into arguements - the 'big' everton fans were already blaming liverpool for their demise, i would guess it was stuff you heard there dads saying as lads who were 14 and were like 2 years old during heysel starting bringing up that if it wasn't for us they would have won the european cup :haha:

With the introduction of the premier league, the game changed and the money came into - the big clubs got reacher and everton missed the boat imo - they slipped into our shadows as we were still the biggest club in the country - and even in some of worst periods we managed to finish above them in the leagues and pick up a couple of trophies along the way

I'd imagine it was a bitter pill to swallow, and as a result it was around these times that i really noticied how bitter their fans were!! - I have an uncle who is a blue nose and remember being about 14 and at my nans for xmas - he was a nice, calm, placid fella, but he starting spouting some shit about LFC/Everton in the end my dad had to walk out the room before he killed him and my dad has never been to xmas at my nans since haha (obv it's my mum's side of the family) - but this is what i was getting at in my earlier posts about them having a collective way of thinking - they tune into this EFC fm frequency that only they receive and they have the same ideas! the same thoughts, - it's crazy and hard to explain - but any talk about football with any bluenose and YOU know before they do where it's going cause they all think the same way - there doesn't seem to be indvidual opionions and all the arguements are the same

I also noticied at school that you would here to Everton fans talking and one would say - "i thought Amokachi was crap on saturday" - the other lad would agree, but if a red turned round and said "well he has been poor the last few games in fairness" fuck me they would hit the roof - "what - fuck off he has been playing well and was the best player on the pitch on saturday and would fucking walk into ur team, he's miles better than anyone you have" etc etc :rash:

It's around this time i started to notice that some of them, were fucking obsessed with us - they would wear their evertons scarfs but all they would do is slag liverpool off, celebrate our loses, despite the fact their own team was struggling - strange I thought. I asked my dad about this and he summed it up perfectly (and he was honest cause he said the same can be said with some liverpool fans and man united

he said you get two types of Everton fans - Everton Supporters and Liverpool Haters.

Slowly over the last 10 years the EVerton supporters have dwiindled and they seem to become assimilated into the Liverpool Hater catergory - as i have said, i grew with lads that in school were everton supporters and you could hold a decent conversation with them about footie, but they have just become more liverpool haters in their bitter and twisted ways and now look out for our result before their own.

From 2000 to the present day - it's just got worse for them, and they can't handle it, hence the worse it gets at evertton, the more the anger and blame gets directed at liverpool, cause lets face it...if it wasn't for heysel blah blah :crackoff: -

The gulf between the 'top four' and the rest of the league is so massive now that it is probably ruining football - and the bigger that gap gets the more tension is created between the two clubs - it's down to their jealousy that in turn makes them bitter and then angry towards our club - and after a few years of this, many liverpool fans have slowly had enough of their constant bitching and started to develop utter contempt for the blue shite as a natural reaction! - It's easy to say - oh we could just ignore them, but i think thats been the problem - liverpool have moved on from the 80's and we more worried about attempting to fry bigger fish now, and we have just left everton behind, they get no attention from us, so have slowly started to turn nasty with the chants of murderers creeping etc etc - and guess what after 15 years all off sudden they have got so bitter towards that we have started to get pissed off and take notice, and fight back a little.

It's like we have dumped an ex girlfriend, and we moved on and starting dating a succesful model and in turn everton have gone into decline and gained 4 stone and can't get a shag anymore, they blame us for ruining their lives, and in turn slag us off, then start stalker us, keying our car doors etc, no it's got to the point were they are running round the pub pointing at us and screaming "rapist" - we have ignored it as much as we can but it's about time we told this little slut to fuck off!

[Darth Marty]

Love that post :rock:

"oi slag...fuck off" :handshake:

:haha:

[PTP]

:D - haha - apologies for the bad grammer - i was talking to a customer on the phone whilst typing, so kinda lost track a few times

I feel so relieved after thos three posts tho!! - really got a lot of my chest :D thats been building up for ages - i think those posts should be made stickies! :rock:

[Exiled_red]

:respect: Absolutely class post PTP

I can associate with alot of that as I had a mate who's a fairly hardcore BS but it got to the point where you couldn't talk about football with him as all he wanted to do is slag us off, and any slight critisism or even light hearted comment back he'd come back with the Heysel stuff.

Also he wouldn't buy anything that had the colour red in and would walk out of a pub or club (and often never go back) if they played YNWA :haha:

[Sisterstiffticket]

:D

It's like we have dumped an ex girlfriend, and we moved on and starting dating a succesful model and in turn everton have gone into decline and gained 4 stone and can't get a shag anymore, they blame us for ruining their lives, and in turn slag us off, then start stalker us, keying our car doors etc, no it's got to the point were they are running round the pub pointing at us and screaming "rapist" - we have ignored it as much as we can but it's about time we told this little slut to fuck off!


Brilliant metaphore.
I've always said that for every situation in life there is a clear footballing metaphore...and here, vice versa.
Love it.:rock:

[vonk]

oh aye hahaha i failed to notice that - just looked at ur bottom three

yes i'd fucking love it!!!! - oh and it was a last minute, injury time winner by Steven Gerrard, who was offside, controled it with his hand, then punched the keeper in the bollocks leaving him on the floor and gerrard taps in!!1

mmmmwwwahhahahahaha

FLMAO!

Classic, man! Havent laughed that hard in ages. Fuck it, I'm shouting for bluescum this weekend in the utter hope that that happens. Would be up there with Istanbul!! :haha::haha::haha:

[vonk]

:D no worries - haha i went on a bit of rant, but thats how it's got lately

if i did a kinda of timescale for my age group - 26 it's kinda gone like this

earliest memories

the merseyside cup finals of 86 and 89 - better memories of 89 as i was 7, and just getting into football, understanding it etc - i remember sitting in a bar in corfu with my dad to watch the cup final - we sat with a big group of fellas, that were all scousers on holiday together and there was a split of like 6 reds and 6 blues - i can remember them enjoying the game, sitting together and having a laugh etc etc - good atmoshpere and i remember thinking thats strange, why does he have a blue shirt on and he is laughing and joking with the guy in the red shirt.

I remember being a red and having mates who wer eblue and having no issues with them whatever - tho bearing in mind a was a kid and was more concerned who the best thudercat was (panthro)

growing up

through the early 90's secondary school - there was plenty of banter at school between mates - some banter developed into debates and then into arguements - the 'big' everton fans were already blaming liverpool for their demise, i would guess it was stuff you heard there dads saying as lads who were 14 and were like 2 years old during heysel starting bringing up that if it wasn't for us they would have won the european cup :haha:

With the introduction of the premier league, the game changed and the money came into - the big clubs got reacher and everton missed the boat imo - they slipped into our shadows as we were still the biggest club in the country - and even in some of worst periods we managed to finish above them in the leagues and pick up a couple of trophies along the way

I'd imagine it was a bitter pill to swallow, and as a result it was around these times that i really noticied how bitter their fans were!! - I have an uncle who is a blue nose and remember being about 14 and at my nans for xmas - he was a nice, calm, placid fella, but he starting spouting some shit about LFC/Everton in the end my dad had to walk out the room before he killed him and my dad has never been to xmas at my nans since haha (obv it's my mum's side of the family) - but this is what i was getting at in my earlier posts about them having a collective way of thinking - they tune into this EFC fm frequency that only they receive and they have the same ideas! the same thoughts, - it's crazy and hard to explain - but any talk about football with any bluenose and YOU know before they do where it's going cause they all think the same way - there doesn't seem to be indvidual opionions and all the arguements are the same

I also noticied at school that you would here to Everton fans talking and one would say - "i thought Amokachi was crap on saturday" - the other lad would agree, but if a red turned round and said "well he has been poor the last few games in fairness" fuck me they would hit the roof - "what - fuck off he has been playing well and was the best player on the pitch on saturday and would fucking walk into ur team, he's miles better than anyone you have" etc etc :rash:

It's around this time i started to notice that some of them, were fucking obsessed with us - they would wear their evertons scarfs but all they would do is slag liverpool off, celebrate our loses, despite the fact their own team was struggling - strange I thought. I asked my dad about this and he summed it up perfectly (and he was honest cause he said the same can be said with some liverpool fans and man united

he said you get two types of Everton fans - Everton Supporters and Liverpool Haters.

Slowly over the last 10 years the EVerton supporters have dwiindled and they seem to become assimilated into the Liverpool Hater catergory - as i have said, i grew with lads that in school were everton supporters and you could hold a decent conversation with them about footie, but they have just become more liverpool haters in their bitter and twisted ways and now look out for our result before their own.

From 2000 to the present day - it's just got worse for them, and they can't handle it, hence the worse it gets at evertton, the more the anger and blame gets directed at liverpool, cause lets face it...if it wasn't for heysel blah blah :crackoff: -

The gulf between the 'top four' and the rest of the league is so massive now that it is probably ruining football - and the bigger that gap gets the more tension is created between the two clubs - it's down to their jealousy that in turn makes them bitter and then angry towards our club - and after a few years of this, many liverpool fans have slowly had enough of their constant bitching and started to develop utter contempt for the blue shite as a natural reaction! - It's easy to say - oh we could just ignore them, but i think thats been the problem - liverpool have moved on from the 80's and we more worried about attempting to fry bigger fish now, and we have just left everton behind, they get no attention from us, so have slowly started to turn nasty with the chants of murderers creeping etc etc - and guess what after 15 years all off sudden they have got so bitter towards that we have started to get pissed off and take notice, and fight back a little.

It's like we have dumped an ex girlfriend, and we moved on and starting dating a succesful model and in turn everton have gone into decline and gained 4 stone and can't get a shag anymore, they blame us for ruining their lives, and in turn slag us off, then start stalker us, keying our car doors etc, no it's got to the point were they are running round the pub pointing at us and screaming "rapist" - we have ignored it as much as we can but it's about time we told this little slut to fuck off!

Top class post. A lot of them love their team and all that, but a lot of them exist to hate us. That's fine. I hate the way they never beat united, almost like they dont want to do us any favours. They are struggling this season and will be nowhere near top 6. Cue more bitterness.

[Assassin]

Darth - the reason I, and i'd imagine why so many other esters have a strong dislike for the blueshite - is for the past 10-15 years I have had to live with the constant fucking moaning, slagging us off, blaming us for everything all the way to extreme hatred were we get called fucking murdering bastards! I agree - before that, when everton were doing ok, the atmosphere wasn't that bad, good banter, mickey taking etc etc - but i have been right in the middle of it all too see it change! - i have seen best mates fighting over it cause the blue nose called a lad a murdering bastard etc

I understand there is an arguement that two wrongs don't make a right - but i have always been a fair and honest person when talking football with opposition fans, mainly cause at uni there was only me and one other red(who didn't really follow footy) so i was always dragged into debates - but last season (and i either posted or started a thread on here when it happened) the derby at home was the final straw! I have never had hatred for everton but there sheer hatred towards us means i fucking despise the cunts now, not like the mancs but in a way where i'd be fucking happy if they just fucked off - an absoloute fucking classless bunch of fucking idiots - and i am not just talking about the 'scum' element that every club 'has'.....I had mates I play football with, good lads, good jobs, good upbringing etc etc calling us murderers.. I turned up to footy after the derby, hadn't said a word just walked over said alright lads and one lad turned round ans said "fuck off u stuffy murderin twat!" -

They have developed such a deep hatred of us through sheer jealousy and bitterness over the last 10 years or more that there is no going back for them. If they were relegated, we'd take the piss when it happend and then move on - fuck me if we got relegated they would be fucking selling DVD's of it in the club shop - and whats more it would be their biggest selling DVD ever!!!

I rarely if either wind up any off my mates who support other clubs - obv have plenty of banter and piss taking etc but nothing like the fucking bitterness they show towards us, eg - when me won the european cup, after the celebrations etc the first and only opposition fan i text was a manc fan, and to be fair he took it well - i wasn't arsed about Everton cause they are insignificant

but fuck me......the pub last saturday, we go one nil down and within 5 mins I had received about 7 texts laughing at us all from random bluenoses - some that I haven't spoke too in 6 months! (obv i never bothered replying Steven Gerrard did that for me)

Another example - on facebook i must have say 100 mates that are reds and i rarely see status updates from them saying things like "hahaha unlucky u fucking blueshite" etc etc - I log onto facebook this morning and at least 10 blueshite mates have changed their status "to fucking stuffy redshite scum" etc etc etc -

They are a bunch of fucking idiots - they are nothing other than a fucking obsessed stalker! Half of them are more bothered about what Liverpool do than their own fucking club!!! - another example - I go the pub regulary and watch loads of footie there - if everton play, at most u might get a few jeers from reds fans if something goes against them - but fucking me if liverpool are on and we concede to say West Brom - u'd think it meant Everton had won the fucking league!!!!! On saturday - in our local, they have tv's everywhere and they had the liverpool match on, but by the bar they had a pc streaming everton with about 10 or so blues watching it.........They cheered louder when middlesborough scored than they did their own team - and fucking went nuts when we won and stormed out the pub shouting "stuffy fucking red cunts etc" despite the fact their own team had won!!!!!!

They are a small time club, that need to fucking wake up, we are not to blame for them having a shit ground, we are not to blame that noone wants to sign for them, we are not to blame that they didn't win the European Cup, and we certainly aren't to blame for the fact they can't sell their tickets and have to advertise half price season tickets at christmas and have schemes like fucking 'ladies day'!!!! hahaha - they are not the peoples club and they certainly aren't the fucking school of science!!!


Sadly tho for 99% of them -things are that bad for them that they only enjoyment they get from being Everton fans is their hatred towards Liverpool

So fuck them

you would think so.....

and in times of serious tragic events - liverpool as a city come together and stand strong

but when it comes to football, it's become almost like a 'terrace cliquey fashion thing' for them and if u don't become part of this cult you are discarded - all everton fans seem to connect together as one single collective and a single way of thinking - it's like it starts in the middle of the gladys street and slowly assimilates everyone around it "resistance is futile" - they tap into some kinda radio frequency that only they can pick up - with a constant droning voice being programmed into their one collective brain - "BLAME THE REDSHITE MURDERING CUNTS" being constantly beamed into them.


As i mentioned last year at the derby - at the time i didn't realise but it turned out I was alongside a fellow ester outside anfield road after the game...think it was nobbylad...... there was this fucking cunt, easily in his mid 30's didn't look like a scally at all, casually pushing through the crowd and just shouting "I hope u are happy u won you murdering cunts!!"

Despite the fact the was easily 700 or probably more of the cunts behind chanting it - this little fucking cunt stood out - i felt my fist clench up as he walked towards and my blood boil, i was going to fucking deck this cunt, but then in the corner of my eye i glance to my right to see about 6 policeman on horses and one standing on the wall filming the crowd - i wasn't getting banned from anfield for sparking this cunt out!!

:D no worries - haha i went on a bit of rant, but thats how it's got lately

if i did a kinda of timescale for my age group - 26 it's kinda gone like this

earliest memories

the merseyside cup finals of 86 and 89 - better memories of 89 as i was 7, and just getting into football, understanding it etc - i remember sitting in a bar in corfu with my dad to watch the cup final - we sat with a big group of fellas, that were all scousers on holiday together and there was a split of like 6 reds and 6 blues - i can remember them enjoying the game, sitting together and having a laugh etc etc - good atmoshpere and i remember thinking thats strange, why does he have a blue shirt on and he is laughing and joking with the guy in the red shirt.

I remember being a red and having mates who wer eblue and having no issues with them whatever - tho bearing in mind a was a kid and was more concerned who the best thudercat was (panthro)

growing up

through the early 90's secondary school - there was plenty of banter at school between mates - some banter developed into debates and then into arguements - the 'big' everton fans were already blaming liverpool for their demise, i would guess it was stuff you heard there dads saying as lads who were 14 and were like 2 years old during heysel starting bringing up that if it wasn't for us they would have won the european cup :haha:

With the introduction of the premier league, the game changed and the money came into - the big clubs got reacher and everton missed the boat imo - they slipped into our shadows as we were still the biggest club in the country - and even in some of worst periods we managed to finish above them in the leagues and pick up a couple of trophies along the way

I'd imagine it was a bitter pill to swallow, and as a result it was around these times that i really noticied how bitter their fans were!! - I have an uncle who is a blue nose and remember being about 14 and at my nans for xmas - he was a nice, calm, placid fella, but he starting spouting some shit about LFC/Everton in the end my dad had to walk out the room before he killed him and my dad has never been to xmas at my nans since haha (obv it's my mum's side of the family) - but this is what i was getting at in my earlier posts about them having a collective way of thinking - they tune into this EFC fm frequency that only they receive and they have the same ideas! the same thoughts, - it's crazy and hard to explain - but any talk about football with any bluenose and YOU know before they do where it's going cause they all think the same way - there doesn't seem to be indvidual opionions and all the arguements are the same

I also noticied at school that you would here to Everton fans talking and one would say - "i thought Amokachi was crap on saturday" - the other lad would agree, but if a red turned round and said "well he has been poor the last few games in fairness" fuck me they would hit the roof - "what - fuck off he has been playing well and was the best player on the pitch on saturday and would fucking walk into ur team, he's miles better than anyone you have" etc etc :rash:

It's around this time i started to notice that some of them, were fucking obsessed with us - they would wear their evertons scarfs but all they would do is slag liverpool off, celebrate our loses, despite the fact their own team was struggling - strange I thought. I asked my dad about this and he summed it up perfectly (and he was honest cause he said the same can be said with some liverpool fans and man united

he said you get two types of Everton fans - Everton Supporters and Liverpool Haters.

Slowly over the last 10 years the EVerton supporters have dwiindled and they seem to become assimilated into the Liverpool Hater catergory - as i have said, i grew with lads that in school were everton supporters and you could hold a decent conversation with them about footie, but they have just become more liverpool haters in their bitter and twisted ways and now look out for our result before their own.

From 2000 to the present day - it's just got worse for them, and they can't handle it, hence the worse it gets at evertton, the more the anger and blame gets directed at liverpool, cause lets face it...if it wasn't for heysel blah blah :crackoff: -

The gulf between the 'top four' and the rest of the league is so massive now that it is probably ruining football - and the bigger that gap gets the more tension is created between the two clubs - it's down to their jealousy that in turn makes them bitter and then angry towards our club - and after a few years of this, many liverpool fans have slowly had enough of their constant bitching and started to develop utter contempt for the blue shite as a natural reaction! - It's easy to say - oh we could just ignore them, but i think thats been the problem - liverpool have moved on from the 80's and we more worried about attempting to fry bigger fish now, and we have just left everton behind, they get no attention from us, so have slowly started to turn nasty with the chants of murderers creeping etc etc - and guess what after 15 years all off sudden they have got so bitter towards that we have started to get pissed off and take notice, and fight back a little.

It's like we have dumped an ex girlfriend, and we moved on and starting dating a succesful model and in turn everton have gone into decline and gained 4 stone and can't get a shag anymore, they blame us for ruining their lives, and in turn slag us off, then start stalker us, keying our car doors etc, no it's got to the point were they are running round the pub pointing at us and screaming "rapist" - we have ignored it as much as we can but it's about time we told this little slut to fuck off!


PTP Fantastic rant :respect:

It's a shame paulcooper doesnt post here nowadays, I'm sure he would have added to this thread