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andyhanrahan
19-12-08, 02:12 PM
anybody hear this
Rafa Benitez is set to solve his right midfield problem by swooping for Bayer Leverkusen's Brazillian star Renato Augusto. Touted as one of the best ever products of Flamengo's youth academy Augusto signed for Leverkusen for an undisclosed fee last summer.

The Brazilian youth international is eager to move to the English Premiership and sees Liverpool's enquiry as the ideal escape route, particularly as Brazillian compatriots Fabio Aurelio, Lucas Leiva and Diego Cavalleri are at Anfield.

Renato could cost up to £10 million, however Rafa Benitez is hoping to raise the bulk of the money by selling Jermaine Pennant in the January transfer window, who has Tottenham, Stoke and Blackburn

dom9
19-12-08, 02:15 PM
No, I've not heard of this.

dww
19-12-08, 02:17 PM
The value of Pennant seems to have shot up, only the other day he was off on a free come the end of the season.

Vermilion
19-12-08, 02:19 PM
All we would then need is to sign a Renee and we have a partnership.:crackoff:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=QGUyBilzdhs&feature=related

kopster
19-12-08, 02:28 PM
All we would then need is to sign a Renee and we have a partnership.:crackoff:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=QGUyBilzdhs&feature=related


Is that not Lucas in the video already?

Bari
19-12-08, 02:30 PM
Rafa & Brazilians = :crackoff:

Reece
19-12-08, 02:38 PM
Rafa & Brazilians = :crackoff:

Especially when it is his wife who has one.


Apologies if you are reading this Rafa or Montse.

JohnDoe
19-12-08, 02:38 PM
Another white Brazilian, must be true.

Neil Young
19-12-08, 02:39 PM
Especially when it is his wife who has one.


Apologies if you are reading this Rafa or Montse.
I think you owe us all an apology for that one.

You'll be hearing from my solicitor.

Reece
19-12-08, 02:41 PM
I think you owe us all an apology for that one.

You'll be hearing from my solicitor.

Lionel Mutz? :eyebrow:

bobbyfallon
19-12-08, 02:42 PM
Especially when it is his wife who has one.


Apologies if you are reading this Rafa or Montse.

rafa wouldnt let her have a brazilian far too creative etc... :crackoff:

memzey
19-12-08, 02:46 PM
rafa wouldnt let her have a brazilian far too creative etc... :crackoff:

Ha Ha!

Bari
19-12-08, 02:58 PM
Another white Brazilian, must be true.

Are you trying to say white brazilians aren't upto it :crackoff:

Neil Young
19-12-08, 03:03 PM
Lionel Mutz? :eyebrow:
http://nournours.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/loulou-the-lawyer.jpg


You'll be hearing from my solicitor's solicitor too.

Fierce
19-12-08, 05:34 PM
Awesome. We need another midfielder!

DannyMan2006
20-12-08, 01:23 PM
Awesome. We need another midfielder!

We do need a RW, especially as Kuyt seems to be drifting back to being a striker.........

rage
20-12-08, 04:10 PM
kuyt, a striker? :haha: what a silly thing to believe. i honestly don't think even kuyt thinks he's a striker.:handshake:

i'd rather we played babel more often on the right rather than waste more money on a tomorrows superstar who'll hardly ever get a game.

Warren
20-12-08, 08:04 PM
kuyt, a striker? :haha: what a silly thing to believe. i honestly don't think even kuyt thinks he's a striker.:handshake:

i'd rather we played babel more often on the right rather than waste more money on a tomorrows superstar who'll hardly ever get a game.

Well he was a pretty prolific striker in Dutch football, take his last 4 seasons in the Dutch first division
Played 38 Scored 25
Played 44 Scored 36
Played 40 Scored 22
Played 40 Scored 23
I think we'd all take him scoring that number each season for us, in my opinion he just isn't a good enough striker for the Premier league

MrMichael
20-12-08, 08:19 PM
We were linked with this guy summer '07, somehow though I find it quite hard to believe Leverkusen would sell him when he's only been there a few months, unless it was for a very tidy profit, apparently they paid ~10m euros, and its not like we're flush for cash.

No idea how he's been doing in Germany but he was really highly rated in Brazil not so long ago.

http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/a-name-to-remember-renato-augusto.html

Joe King
20-12-08, 11:29 PM
Was rated in Brazil many years ago - I'm not sure whether he is in Dunga's plans.

Renato is quite versatile and has been touted by many clubs in Europe, whether he is good enough, I don't know....

Parm
21-12-08, 10:18 AM
well seeing as we will have sod all money to spend in Jan....

rage
21-12-08, 10:31 AM
Well he was a pretty prolific striker in Dutch football, take his last 4 seasons in the Dutch first division
Played 38 Scored 25
Played 44 Scored 36
Played 40 Scored 22
Played 40 Scored 23
I think we'd all take him scoring that number each season for us, in my opinion he just isn't a good enough striker for the Premier league

neither do i. the dutch league is no comparison, kuyt should never play centre forward for us ever.

Parm
21-12-08, 10:34 AM
neither do i. the dutch league is no comparison, kuyt should never play centre forward for us ever.

thing is, when we bought him, he was one of the most prolific strikers in europe. Torres aside (sheer World Class talent), and possibly Crouch (given his height he couldnt play RW), I just dont think Rafa knows what to do with strikers. Time and again he has bought expensive strikers and seems to end up pushing them out wide right. When that doesnt work out he does ship them out quickly but then the next man comes in and its like groundhog day again.

rage
21-12-08, 11:22 AM
did keane even start as striker? i remember a rafa interview where he thought keane could play on the left.

we really need torres back asap. i'd even buy owen who i also think could lead the line in a 4231 and play alongside torres far better than any of our current strikers.

in the context of a right sided midfielder i'm really frustrated that we haven't addressed this position yet. it was a priority since rafa arrived with the likes of gerrard, cisse and now kuyt playing there. but i'd rather buy someone proven who plays there naturally than someone who could do a job there. a january signing would be good there but i only see this happening if we manage to offload pennant

MrMichael
21-12-08, 11:33 PM
did keane even start as striker? i remember a rafa interview where he thought keane could play on the left.

we really need torres back asap. i'd even buy owen who i also think could lead the line in a 4231 and play alongside torres far better than any of our current strikers.

in the context of a right sided midfielder i'm really frustrated that we haven't addressed this position yet. it was a priority since rafa arrived with the likes of gerrard, cisse and now kuyt playing there. but i'd rather buy someone proven who plays there naturally than someone who could do a job there. a january signing would be good there but i only see this happening if we manage to offload pennant

Yep, a direct replacement for Pennant would be nice, a proper right sided winger who could compete with Kuyt depending on the type of game, opposition and formation on any given day. Kuyt I think is worth his place on the right in a 4-2-3-1 style formation, but in a 4-4-2 he isn't really, and needs proper competition from a real right winger, preferably one who is actually good!

Not too sure about him but the likes of Lennon perhaps, or that Kuba guy whose actual name is unpronounceable :)

1 True Red
22-12-08, 12:47 PM
Yep, a direct replacement for Pennant would be nice, a proper right sided winger who could compete with Kuyt depending on the type of game, opposition and formation on any given day. Kuyt I think is worth his place on the right in a 4-2-3-1 style formation, but in a 4-4-2 he isn't really, and needs proper competition from a real right winger, preferably one who is actually good!

Not too sure about him but the likes of Lennon perhaps, or that Kuba guy whose actual name is unpronounceable :)


Agree totaly bud :handshake:

Lennon for Pennant plus a bit of cash seems about rght way to go IMO

Rich
22-12-08, 01:26 PM
Swap for Babel :handshake:

...you heard it hear first, folks!

JPK
03-01-09, 11:38 AM
Bayer expected Reds' Renato interest.

http://www.setanta.com//Global/Images/sport/football/2008-2009/germany/Bayer-Leverkusen/renato_sit.jpg

Bayer Leverkusen general manager Michael Reschke has confirmed interest from abroad in alleged Liverpool target Renato Augusto.

The former Flamengo youngster is tipped for a bright future and Reschke believes it is inevitable clubs like Liverpool are monitoring his progress.

After only signing for the Bundesliga club last year, Bayer are reluctant to even consider losing the 20-year-old attacking midfielder.

"The fact that a player like Renato Augusto awakens desire in other clubs was always clear," Reschke told Express.

"A transfer is not open to debate for us. I had a long chat with the player before Christmas.

"Renato feels happy about us at Bayer and wants to make the step up to the Brazilian national team.

"The boy is facing a great career ahead of him. Should he leave eventually, he can choose where he wants to go."

http://www.setanta.com//uk/Articles/Football/2009/2/2/Bundesliga-Bayer-on-Renato/gnid-33685/

Shaggy
03-01-09, 11:39 AM
I wish we'd sign a black Brazilian :sigh:

Tee
03-01-09, 11:41 AM
I wish we'd sign a black Brazilian :sigh:

Racialist.

JPK
03-01-09, 11:47 AM
Olic has agreed to join Bayern at the end of the season too.

ARIMAN
03-01-09, 12:23 PM
Podolski must be on his way then

JPK
03-01-09, 12:31 PM
Podolski must be on his way then

Spurs I would say.

AFII
03-01-09, 12:33 PM
Looks like Kuyt could be off. Not offered a new deal yet and we are looking at a few right wingers.

JPK
03-01-09, 12:42 PM
Looks like Kuyt could be off. Not offered a new deal yet and we are looking at a few right wingers.

No chance.

meffin
03-01-09, 12:45 PM
rafa will never sell his beloved dirk

AFII
03-01-09, 01:51 PM
No chance.

rafa will never sell his beloved dirk

Never say never. He almost sold Xabi last summer and he was one of the untouchable players.

Rafa will do whatever it takes to make the team better.

slimbimjim
03-01-09, 01:58 PM
I wish we'd sign a black Brazilian :sigh:

Or one with a beard -

http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/52952694.jpg

wiw
03-01-09, 03:52 PM
Looks like Kuyt could be off. Not offered a new deal yet and we are looking at a few right wingers.

2 + 2 = 12? :D

Can't see it happening, it's not only him waiting on a new contract

fin7
03-01-09, 04:44 PM
socrates was a great player and zico as well, leonardo theres another

kev776
03-01-09, 08:06 PM
Is Pele up to 60 games a season in England ?

dww
08-01-09, 02:56 PM
Benitez set to pounce for Renato
(http://www.sport.co.uk/news/Football/12282/Benitez_set_to_pounce_for_Renato_.aspx)
Author: Nigel Brown
Posted on: 08 January 2009 - 12:56
Category: Football
Comments: Be the first to comment

Rafa Benitez has made an official enquiry for Brazilian right midfielder Renato Augusto according to a selection of reports from the German press. The Bayer Leverkusen star has been tracked by Benitez for the last month, and the young starlet, thought of by some as one of the best products to come out of the Flamengo youth academy in the last decade, is said to be keen to move to Anfield.

With Jermaine Pennant set to move on, with a number of clubs interested including A.C Milan and Real Madrid, Benitez sees Renato as the ideal replacement as the tricky winger would be eligible to play in the Champions League.

Renato is valued between £10 and £15 million, and would join a Liverpool squad which already includes compatriots Lucas, Fabio Aurelio and Diego Cavalleri.

Harv
08-01-09, 03:07 PM
has looked a good player from times ive seen him (not much mind)

blacky
08-01-09, 03:11 PM
Where is the money gonna come from to pay for him though?

Fierce
08-01-09, 03:12 PM
Skillful, quick, strong, can cross and can score. Sounds about right to me

memzey
08-01-09, 03:16 PM
What kind of player is this lad? Is he quick? Can he beat a man? Is he a get-to-the-bye-line-and-put-in-a-cross or cut-in-and-shoot type of winger? Is he tricky? Direct? As you can probably tell I've never seen him play :D

SERVO1
08-01-09, 03:18 PM
Since Rafa has said he's not looking to buy or sell anyone in January and with us apparently not having much money i just don't see this deal happening, at least at the prices quoted.

dww
08-01-09, 03:28 PM
Where is the money gonna come from to pay for him though?

Since Rafa has said he's not looking to buy or sell anyone in January and with us apparently not having much money i just don't see this deal happening, at least at the prices quoted.

No indication of when the deal is being done for - could well be a summer signing - in which case the money would come from next seasons budget.

Joe King
08-01-09, 03:37 PM
I could see this being a summer signing as dww said. We would need to shift a heck load of players to get to £10m +

Reece
08-01-09, 03:39 PM
I could see this being a summer signing as dww said. We would need to shift a heck load of players to get to £10m +

IF we were to sell Dossena and Pennant we wouldn't be too far off £10m.

Big if though.

Cormack74
08-01-09, 08:58 PM
What kind of player is this lad? Is he quick? Can he beat a man? Is he a get-to-the-bye-line-and-put-in-a-cross or cut-in-and-shoot type of winger? Is he tricky? Direct? As you can probably tell I've never seen him play :D


Me neither. Where's AFII ?

DannyMan2006
01-02-09, 01:16 AM
BUMP.

What with Keane seemingly on his way will Rafa swoop for this lad?

Joe King
01-02-09, 01:21 AM
No. No money.

DannyMan2006
01-02-09, 02:15 AM
No. No money.

£15m for Keane would change that.

Nic83
02-02-09, 12:10 AM
He aint really a winger, he's better off the front or 'in the hole'.

He isn't that good either.