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    Calzaghe

    Has said he doesn't want his next fight (after Saturday's mis-match against Bika) to be in the USA.

    How the **** can he expect to be taken seriously when he's refusing to go to the other side of the pond? I know he's the champ and all that but if you really want to make it big in boxing then you MUST go to the states?

    He's always giving it the big I am, and now he only want's to fight in Cardiff. If he's got so much ability and self-belief then he should get his welsh arris over to the USA and fight one of their top dogs in their own back yard. Maybe - just maybe - he'll then get the recognition that he keeps telling us he deserves.

    I'm disappointed in him.

    H
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    #2
    Seems a very strange decision. Professional suicide, no?
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      #3
      He's never travelled. And after the demolition of Lacy, and the fact that Europe has better super mids than America, I don't see why people shouldn't travel to fight him.

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        #4
        Calzaghe is ****in brilliant. Hes better than all the yank fighters put together and its nice for once to have a fighter with the status to be able to demand that they come to us for a change. Best british fighter ive seen, and theres been some ****in gooduns. Henry Cooper, Nigel Benn, Ricky Hatton etc.
        Calzaghe for me outshines them all and absolutely ****s all over anything the yanks have to offer

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          #5
          IMO he can do whatever the fk he wants. He's been champion for 9 {?} years. He's undefeated. He's got the right to fight whoever and wherever he wants

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            #6
            I know next to **** all about boxing but Calzaghe is a top fella outside the ring, very down to earth and as far removed from the 'big I am' as you can get.

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              #7
              Originally posted by paulcooper4
              Calzaghe is ****in brilliant. Hes better than all the yank fighters put together and its nice for once to have a fighter with the status to be able to demand that they come to us for a change. Best british fighter ive seen, and theres been some ****in gooduns. Henry Cooper, Nigel Benn, Ricky Hatton etc.
              Calzaghe for me outshines them all and absolutely ****s all over anything the yanks have to offer
              I agree he's brilliant - well he was against Lacy anyway. Totally superb.
              What I can't understand is his reluctance to go to the states If he want's to go down as one of the greats then I feel he must go over there. I know he's been world champ for 9 years but with the exception of Eubank and Lacy - who has he really fought?? The career defining fight he's always craved hasn't really materialised (Lacy excepted?) and now his refusal to travel is putting yet more blocks on the path to his career defining fight. IMO he's coming to the end of his career so he should be taking every opportunity open to him to achieve his goals.
              You mention Benn and Hatton Coops - both of these went over to the states - Calzaghe should do the same or he'll be remembered as a great fighter who never really fullfilled his dream/potential.
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                #8
                Originally posted by Howard_lfc
                I agree he's brilliant - well he was against Lacy anyway. Totally superb.
                What I can't understand is his reluctance to go to the states If he want's to go down as one of the greats then I feel he must go over there. I know he's been world champ for 9 years but with the exception of Eubank and Lacy - who has he really fought?? The career defining fight he's always craved hasn't really materialised (Lacy excepted?) and now his refusal to travel is putting yet more blocks on the path to his career defining fight. IMO he's coming to the end of his career so he should be taking every opportunity open to him to achieve his goals.
                You mention Benn and Hatton Coops - both of these went over to the states - Calzaghe should do the same or he'll be remembered as a great fighter who never really fullfilled his dream/potential.
                I can see what your saying mate, I just dont agree. What you are saying about him not going over to the states only enhances him in my eyes. Make them ****ers come over here for a change. I wish lewis had of done it also, and ricky should do the same. If these yank ****s want to get ****ted by the best then they can get off there arse and fly over here for the honour. HE is the champ remeember. And he has fought everyone who has stuck around to fight him. Ive lost count of the number of fighters down the years that have moved weight just so joe couldnt knock twelve kinds of **** out of them

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Howard_lfc
                  Has said he doesn't want his next fight (after Saturday's mis-match against Bika) to be in the USA.

                  How the **** can he expect to be taken seriously when he's refusing to go to the other side of the pond? I know he's the champ and all that but if you really want to make it big in boxing then you MUST go to the states?

                  He's always giving it the big I am, and now he only want's to fight in Cardiff. If he's got so much ability and self-belief then he should get his welsh arris over to the USA and fight one of their top dogs in their own back yard. Maybe - just maybe - he'll then get the recognition that he keeps telling us he deserves.

                  I'm disappointed in him.

                  H
                  I agree Howard.
                  If he wants to remembered as a true great then he has to go to the states, all the big fights are over there and the big pay days, he will be remembered in Britain as a great fighter but not world wide. That is ofcourse until he goes to the states and proves his worth.
                  I really can't understand it myself. Hatton could have taken the easy road and decided to fight every fight in Manchester, but wanted to prove himself as one of the greats, that is what you have to do these days.
                  Bill shankly to Tommy Smith after he'd turned up for training with a bandaged knee:
                  'Take that poof bandage off, and what do you mean YOUR knee, it's LIVERPOOL'S knee !'

                  "Sorry, boss, I should have kept my legs together," said Lawrence. "No, Tommy, your mother should have kept her legs together!," replied Shankly.

                  * After Tommy Lawrence had let in a fluke goal between his legs

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                    #10
                    I don't see why he should have to go to the States. All the best fighters in his weight class are in Europe, not in America. If he was a challenger then he would need to travel to wherever the next highest contender was, but the guy is the best at his weight class and those who want to go after his belt, should dance to his tune with regards to where the fights take place.
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Jaco_Pastorious
                      I don't see why he should have to go to the States. All the best fighters in his weight class are in Europe, not in America. If he was a challenger then he would need to travel to wherever the next highest contender was, but the guy is the best at his weight class and those who want to go after his belt, should dance to his tune with regards to where the fights take place.
                      Why be big in Wales when you can be big all over the world?

                      After all - Tom Jones didn't say "Ahh **** it boyo, I'm the best. If these people wanna hear me sing - they can get off their fat arses and get over to Abergaveny Town Hall like the rest of my fans. Isn't it."

                      Think of any great world champion - and I'll be you a pound to a bucket of **** he plied his trade in the states. But not Joe - he's happy to box at home - where he's comfortable - against some bloke called Bika who 99% of the boxing world has never heard of. If he's happy with that then fine - but don't let him kid us when he retires that he was ever 'great' - because it won't wash mate. Think of the calibre of fighters Benn fought and then compare to Calzaghe's. Calzaghe might even be a better fighter than Benn ever was - but Benn was a great fighter coz he would fight anybody, anywhere. Unlike joe - who'll fight anybody, so long as it's at home.
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                        #12
                        so youre not a calzaghe fan then?

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by paulcooper4
                          so youre not a calzaghe fan then?
                          He's missed too many fights for me. Too many good fights have slipped by the wayside (Roy Jones, Steve Collins, Glencoffe Johnson) and he's fought too many fella's that I've never heard of.

                          Having said that - the performance against Lacy was monumental - and I just can't understand why he wouldn't want to follow it up against a really top fighter rather than somebody who's already lost to Beyer (who Calzaghe would beat with ease).

                          For me - he's beaten some good fighters and the odd very good fighter. Has he ever fought a great fighter? I don't think so.
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                            #14
                            I think he's right to stay in this country and I don't see why he should have to travel to the states. He's the linear Champ at the weight and people should have to chase him. If he ended up fighting the winner of Beyer and Kessler for all 4 Super-midd titles at the MEN would you complain? I wouldn't!
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by kurtangle01
                              I think he's right to stay in this country and I don't see why he should have to travel to the states. He's the linear Champ at the weight and people should have to chase him. If he ended up fighting the winner of Beyer and Kessler for all 4 Super-midd titles at the MEN would you complain? I wouldn't!
                              People probably wouldnt complain Kurt, and if he did achieve that, then nice one.
                              But he should atleast represent himself over in the states.
                              Look at Hatton, There is someone who is not afraid to travel despite having argueably a more passionate following than Calzaghe. He wants to conquer the boxing world. there is more money to be made fighting in America through pay per view etc.
                              Just looking through the division, there isnt really as many world class names as other divisions. This Bika chap isnt even in the top 10.
                              Bill shankly to Tommy Smith after he'd turned up for training with a bandaged knee:
                              'Take that poof bandage off, and what do you mean YOUR knee, it's LIVERPOOL'S knee !'

                              "Sorry, boss, I should have kept my legs together," said Lawrence. "No, Tommy, your mother should have kept her legs together!," replied Shankly.

                              * After Tommy Lawrence had let in a fluke goal between his legs

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