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    Crewe report Premier League club for alleged illegal approach for youth player

    • Unnamed Premier League side accused by League Two Alex
    • 'I would hope the big clubs are frightened to death' says Gradi

    guardian.co.uk, Monday 7 September 2009 13.46 BST


    Crewe Alexandra director of football Dario Gradi says he is delighted at Fifa's action against Chelsea. Photograph: Rui Vieira/PA

    Crewe Alexandra have reported an unnamed Premier League club to the Football Association for an alleged illegal approach for one of their young players.

    The club's director of football, Dario Gradi, said the League Two side had complained in the wake of Fifa's decision to ban Chelsea from signing players until January 2011 for inducing a French player to break his contract.

    "We have a situation where one of our 15-year-olds has been approached," said Gradi, who was Crewe manager between 1983 and 2007 and brought players including David Platt, Danny Murphy, Seth Johnson, Robbie Savage and Dean Ashton through the ranks at Gresty Road.

    "He is an outstanding player by any standards and he has come in and told us that he wants to leave right now to join a big club. The big clubs are stealing other people's players and you worry financially for the clubs where the players are stolen from.

    "What sort of compensation are we going to get for all the work that has gone into developing him? Any compensation is insignificant for the effort that has gone in."

    Gradi, 68, supports Fifa's decision to place a transfer embargo on Chelsea after they were found guilty of inducing the 18-year-old French midfielder Gaël Kakuta to break his contract with Lens in 2007. Chelsea have confirmed they will launch the "strongest possible appeal" against the ruling.

    The Premier League champions, Manchester United, could also face an investigation after it emerged that another French club, Le Havre, are going to ask Fifa to look into Paul Pogba's move to Old Trafford last month.

    "I'm delighted with what has happened with Chelsea," said Gradi. "I would hope all the big clubs are frightened to death. There is no excuse for breaking the rules.

    "We lost a 12-year-old to Everton. He was our best 12-year-old. The lure is that the bigger clubs pay big expenses. This kid will be getting several hundred pounds a week in expenses. We pay expenses but nothing like that. It's more a case of giving out £20 if someone can pick a kid up en-route.

    "It is so hard to protect your players. All this goes against the morality of the game – it's the rich robbing the poor. At least Fifa have given the smaller clubs hope."
    "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
    -- William Blake

    #2
    Who's trying to pinch our younsters that are on loan at Crewe then :-p
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      #3
      It won't be us cos they love us.
      Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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        #4
        please be Chelsea again
        "When a man insults my country I insult him, by taking his woman" Tony Yeboah

        "looking through your posts since 2007 and what you have consistently written about my football team I have come to the conclusion that if you had 1 more brain cell you would be a plant .. your father was a hamster and your mother smells of elder berries, I fart in your general direction ..." Nicey

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          #5
          Originally posted by Harv View Post
          please be Chelsea again
          or Scum.
          "Its not about the long ball or the short ball, its about the right ball." Bob Paisley

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            #6
            Totally agree with everything he has said there. The FA/FIFA/UEFA were criminal to let this happen and for so long, I think if you take a player under 18 in this manner then you should get the normal rate decided by the tossers and then have a 50% sell-on clause attached so then at least these players will eventually give back to their clubs if they like it or not.

            Really really hate when this happens, totally unfair.

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              #7
              I agree the problem I see though is the weird way that the FA/FIFA/UEFA etc. handle it they create rules and allow them to be broken for ages and then seemingly at random have a clamp down. It makes no sense and now means that all hell will probably break loose with any number of clubs caught up. I suppose late is better than never and the end result should be good for football.

              I actually like the idea of enforced sell on fees as well.
              "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
              -- William Blake

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                #8
                This one is us, its in the Mirror IIRC

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by 112 View Post
                  This one is us, its in the Mirror IIRC
                  Just what we need eh?



                  Liverpool could have to pay more than £1million to sign teenager Max Clayton after complaints about an unofficial approach from his club Crewe.

                  The Anfield side are the latest Premier League giants to come under scrutiny for their behaviour in recruiting top young talent from smaller teams, after a passionate outburst from Gresty Road director of football Dario Gradi.

                  The veteran boss has been angered by what he claimed was - in effect - an attempt to "steal" the 15-year-old, and he hinted an official complaint to the FA could follow.

                  But by last night there had been no contact with Soho Square over the matter, and Liverpool will look to swiftly settle by offering what they consider a reasonable level of compensation.

                  Crewe could expect to get less than £100,000 if they went to a tribunal, and that left Gradi complaining: "The big clubs are stealing other people's players and you worry financially for the clubs the players are stolen from.

                  "What sort of compensation are we going to get for all the work that has gone into developing him? Any compensation is insignificant for the effort that's gone in."

                  But after the fall-out from the Chelsea affair, when the Blues were banned from making any signings for 18 months after being found guilty of an illegal approach to Lens for Gael Kakuta, the Anfield club are ready to offer much more than the minimum compensation figure.

                  Clayton is regarded as the best young prospect at the Cheshire club, who have produced the likes of Danny Murphy, Rob Jones, Dean Ashton and Seth Johnson through their youth system.

                  The talented youngster is about to turn 16 and, through a loophole in football rules, can give notice that he wants to leave for another club, despite being attached to Crewe since he was seven years old.

                  He is the son of former Crewe striker Paul Clayton, and his brother Harry is a first year scholar at Gresty Road. Liverpool have watched him for the past 18 months, and were linked with a £1.5million bid in 2008.

                  Gradi has become increasingly frustrated at the manner in which his club has lost young players from their famed youth academy.

                  Manchester United persuaded two players to join them from Crewe last season, while Stoke signed two teenagers this summer, and Everton even took a 12-year-old from the academy.

                  Liverpool, though, are aware of the current mood after complaints about Chelsea and Manchester United have highlighted an increasing trend in top clubs taking the best young players from much smaller rivals.

                  They will offer a deal where Crewe are given a rising fee depending on the youngster's success in progressing through the ranks at Anfield, and it could eventually top £1million.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Lee View Post
                    Just what we need eh?



                    Liverpool could have to pay more than £1million to sign teenager Max Clayton after complaints about an unofficial approach from his club Crewe.

                    The Anfield side are the latest Premier League giants to come under scrutiny for their behaviour in recruiting top young talent from smaller teams, after a passionate outburst from Gresty Road director of football Dario Gradi.

                    The veteran boss has been angered by what he claimed was - in effect - an attempt to "steal" the 15-year-old, and he hinted an official complaint to the FA could follow.

                    But by last night there had been no contact with Soho Square over the matter, and Liverpool will look to swiftly settle by offering what they consider a reasonable level of compensation.

                    Crewe could expect to get less than £100,000 if they went to a tribunal, and that left Gradi complaining: "The big clubs are stealing other people's players and you worry financially for the clubs the players are stolen from.

                    "What sort of compensation are we going to get for all the work that has gone into developing him? Any compensation is insignificant for the effort that's gone in."

                    But after the fall-out from the Chelsea affair, when the Blues were banned from making any signings for 18 months after being found guilty of an illegal approach to Lens for Gael Kakuta, the Anfield club are ready to offer much more than the minimum compensation figure.

                    Clayton is regarded as the best young prospect at the Cheshire club, who have produced the likes of Danny Murphy, Rob Jones, Dean Ashton and Seth Johnson through their youth system.

                    The talented youngster is about to turn 16 and, through a loophole in football rules, can give notice that he wants to leave for another club, despite being attached to Crewe since he was seven years old.

                    He is the son of former Crewe striker Paul Clayton, and his brother Harry is a first year scholar at Gresty Road. Liverpool have watched him for the past 18 months, and were linked with a £1.5million bid in 2008.

                    Gradi has become increasingly frustrated at the manner in which his club has lost young players from their famed youth academy.

                    Manchester United persuaded two players to join them from Crewe last season, while Stoke signed two teenagers this summer, and Everton even took a 12-year-old from the academy.

                    Liverpool, though, are aware of the current mood after complaints about Chelsea and Manchester United have highlighted an increasing trend in top clubs taking the best young players from much smaller rivals.

                    They will offer a deal where Crewe are given a rising fee depending on the youngster's success in progressing through the ranks at Anfield, and it could eventually top £1million.
                    Surely this is the way forward? Everyone gets a slice of the pie as they come up through the ranks and if they don't make it it's not a big loss for the buying club. I can see Gradi's point. And I'd prefer we paid a slightly bigger wedge up front than get a transfer ban. I've been winding up my Chelsea boss for a few days now and I don't want it coming back in my direction.
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Venton View Post
                      Surely this is the way forward? Everyone gets a slice of the pie as they come up through the ranks and if they don't make it it's not a big loss for the buying club. I can see Gradi's point. And I'd prefer we paid a slightly bigger wedge up front than get a transfer ban. I've been winding up my Chelsea boss for a few days now and I don't want it coming back in my direction.


                      Last thing we need is a transfer ban. Not that it would make any difference given the mess we're currently in

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Lee View Post


                        Last thing we need is a transfer ban. Not that it would make any difference given the mess we're currently in
                        G&H prolly trying to engineer a ban... saves them having to cough up
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Mono View Post
                          G&H prolly trying to engineer a ban... saves them having to cough up
                          You may well be right there my friend

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                            #14
                            Thought we had an agreement with Crewe. I remember Uncle Roy and Uncle Dario both having a love affair in the 90's.

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                              #15
                              I thought crewe were almost like a feeder club for us ... I am surprised at this ..although the player in question is still at Crewe ???
                              Anybody who criticizes Klopp ever is a James Blunt. Nov 2015
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