View Full Version : BA Flight 149 Cover up!?!?
Don’t know if anyone remembers or knows anything about it this, I didn’t until yesterday when I read an interesting article in some Sunday supplement we got free.
Basically flight 149 was a BA flight to Kuala Lumpar that landed in Kuwait to refuel, bang in the middle of the Iraqi invasion in August 1990. Basically Iraq had invaded Kuwait 4 hours earlier and as the plane landed the Iraqi army was taking over the airport. The crew and passengers were taken hostage and were split up between locations and used as human shields, some being taken to Baghdad. There are stories of how badly the hostages were treated, women raped and beatings etc. The hostages were eventually released but have never received any sort of compensation and many of them have struggled to lead a normal life due to mental and physical scars.
What makes this strange tho, is that this was the only flight that landed at this time, all other flights into Kuwait were either cancelled/delayed/diverted due to the situation in Iraq and the looming invasion. So why was the flight allowed to land? Apparently aboard the flight was a unique team consisting of SAS and Mi6, who as soon as the plane landed, gathered their gear and disappeared. The guy who had wrote the article had managed to track down members of this team who confirmed that they were on the flight. Their mission was to separate across Kuwait and the border and set up observation points, then report back all their findings/logistics of the iraq army etc, this info was then used to ‘liberate’ Kuwait. Apparently no one was supposed to get hurt and the flight would off refuelled and taken off before the invasion started but unfortunately it had already begun 24hrs before expected. According to the team members, this was the only way they could get into to Kuwait and as a result the mission was a success and the uk/us counter attack wouldn’t of succeeded without it. Their view was that risking the safety of the other passengers was worth the risk. That’s fair enough, soldiers do what they have to do. But they would have been given the orders from someone, ie the government. The government have always denied this, saying they wouldn’t risk lives etc etc.
Thoughts?
nobbylad
16-10-06, 01:28 PM
Sounds like a great story.....Andy McNab or Chris Ryan would be proud of it.
haha - i was actually thinking it could be made it a great film
Snigger
16-10-06, 02:40 PM
Rule one - never believe conspiracy theorists.
Rule two - never believe governments.
No this doesn't stack up. Why would you want to infiltrate a special forces unit via an airport that was already captred?
Why would you use a commercial flight to infiltrate a SF unit?
Covert infiltartion and exfiltration is better achieved across a border that is porous, as was the case with Kuwait. The probaility of compromise is very much higher by using a commercila route, and I don't believe the Regiment or MI6 would take such a risk so close to teh start of hostilities.
Tell me how would they have even got out of the airfiled given that it was in Iraqi ahnds?
Nah - load of bollocks if you ask me.
unfortunatly I'm mad busy in work so can't put together a decent reply - all I can offer is this link (only one i could find)
LINK (http://www.whsmith.co.uk/whs/go.asp?isbn=0755315219&DB=220&Menu=Books)
The article I read was taken from the above book.
Don’t know if anyone remembers or knows anything about it this, I didn’t until yesterday when I read an interesting article in some Sunday supplement we got free.
Basically flight 149 was a BA flight to Kuala Lumpar that landed in Kuwait to refuel, bang in the middle of the Iraqi invasion in August 1990. Basically Iraq had invaded Kuwait 4 hours earlier and as the plane landed the Iraqi army was taking over the airport. The crew and passengers were taken hostage and were split up between locations and used as human shields, some being taken to Baghdad. There are stories of how badly the hostages were treated, women raped and beatings etc. The hostages were eventually released but have never received any sort of compensation and many of them have struggled to lead a normal life due to mental and physical scars.
What makes this strange tho, is that this was the only flight that landed at this time, all other flights into Kuwait were either cancelled/delayed/diverted due to the situation in Iraq and the looming invasion. So why was the flight allowed to land? Apparently aboard the flight was a unique team consisting of SAS and Mi6, who as soon as the plane landed, gathered their gear and disappeared. The guy who had wrote the article had managed to track down members of this team who confirmed that they were on the flight. Their mission was to separate across Kuwait and the border and set up observation points, then report back all their findings/logistics of the iraq army etc, this info was then used to ‘liberate’ Kuwait. Apparently no one was supposed to get hurt and the flight would off refuelled and taken off before the invasion started but unfortunately it had already begun 24hrs before expected. According to the team members, this was the only way they could get into to Kuwait and as a result the mission was a success and the uk/us counter attack wouldn’t of succeeded without it. Their view was that risking the safety of the other passengers was worth the risk. That’s fair enough, soldiers do what they have to do. But they would have been given the orders from someone, ie the government. The government have always denied this, saying they wouldn’t risk lives etc etc.
Thoughts?
Yeah I remember this happening. I don't think people were raped though???
This story has been doing the rounds for some time.
I'll ask me mate, he was downtown during Desert Shield.
Won't talk much about it but will ask him if he has any thoughts on the story.
go for it - if you don't report back within the next 24hrs we can only assume your friend was part of this black ops mission, at best he may take you hostage, if so we wil come looking.
Ok spoke to him today, he reckons the conspiracy around this flight is all a load of shit.
Without giving too much away the governments were all taken by surprise and only had about 48 hours to get resources on the ground - those resources came in from different arab countries and apparently not via BA.
He was placed inside Iraq shortly after the invasion and spent xmas doing covert survelliance - apparently they had real difficulty getting anyone into Kuwait itself.
The daft bastard even showed me a postcard he sent his mum from Iraq a week before xmas - it just said something like 'loads of sand, cya soon!'
Apparently he got a right bollocking for doing that when his regiment found out about it. :)
thats what they all say. i reckon he was in on it, he is just throwing you a bone :source:
:D
lfc_1892
22-10-07, 02:03 AM
Saw this documentary on Discovery. One of the covert personnel (name and voice was blacked out) gave his account. Seems that it was true that Mi6 fellas were in the flight. Also, no other flights landed there only for BA. Thatcher also lied to the nation that the invasion happened after the flight had landed. In fact it was before the flight had landed that Thatcher herself was notified of the invasion. Further to that, BA till today did not release the passenger list of the plane. You got to doubt why they did that. A lot of inconsistencies.
My two cents...it was a cock up on the part of the Mi6. They were supposed to get in there before the invasion to report back on the situation developing at Kuwait and how its going to affect Saudi since both countries account for 40% of oil export in the world. But, it was too late when they got on the plane as Saddam was already sending his troops in. So nothing could actually be done to protect the passengers. Bad timing you may say.
der_Fuchs
22-10-07, 08:04 AM
Why ask Thatcher or advise her of the invasion? John Major was PM at the time.
Rule one - never believe conspiracy theorists.
Rule two - never believe governments.
That leaves more or less nothing left to believe in.
Neil Young
22-10-07, 09:00 AM
That leaves more or less nothing left to believe in.
One, two, three, four...
Now that you found yourself losing your mind
Are you here again?
Finding that what you once thought was real
Is gone, and changing?
Now that you made yourself love me
Do you think I can change it in a day?
How can I place you above me?
Am I lying to you when I say
That I believe in you
I believe in you.
Coming to you at night I see my questions
I feel my doubts
Wishing that maybe in a year or two
We could laugh and let it all out
Now that you made yourself love me
Do you think I can change it in a day?
How can I place you above me?
Am I lying to you when I say
That I believe in you
I believe in you.
That leaves more or less nothing left to believe in.
You still have tribalfootball :D
Jimthered
23-10-07, 02:42 AM
Don’t know if anyone remembers or knows anything about it this, I didn’t until yesterday when I read an interesting article in some Sunday supplement we got free.
Basically flight 149 was a BA flight to Kuala Lumpar that landed in Kuwait to refuel, bang in the middle of the Iraqi invasion in August 1990. Basically Iraq had invaded Kuwait 4 hours earlier and as the plane landed the Iraqi army was taking over the airport. The crew and passengers were taken hostage and were split up between locations and used as human shields, some being taken to Baghdad. There are stories of how badly the hostages were treated, women raped and beatings etc. The hostages were eventually released but have never received any sort of compensation and many of them have struggled to lead a normal life due to mental and physical scars.
What makes this strange tho, is that this was the only flight that landed at this time, all other flights into Kuwait were either cancelled/delayed/diverted due to the situation in Iraq and the looming invasion. So why was the flight allowed to land? Apparently aboard the flight was a unique team consisting of SAS and Mi6, who as soon as the plane landed, gathered their gear and disappeared. The guy who had wrote the article had managed to track down members of this team who confirmed that they were on the flight. Their mission was to separate across Kuwait and the border and set up observation points, then report back all their findings/logistics of the iraq army etc, this info was then used to ‘liberate’ Kuwait. Apparently no one was supposed to get hurt and the flight would off refuelled and taken off before the invasion started but unfortunately it had already begun 24hrs before expected. According to the team members, this was the only way they could get into to Kuwait and as a result the mission was a success and the uk/us counter attack wouldn’t of succeeded without it. Their view was that risking the safety of the other passengers was worth the risk. That’s fair enough, soldiers do what they have to do. But they would have been given the orders from someone, ie the government. The government have always denied this, saying they wouldn’t risk lives etc etc.
Thoughts?
Around 20 members of the S.A.S were in Kuwait from late June/early July, some 3-4 weeks before the invasion began, supplying daily reports back to the UK.
The CO of the regiment at the time also wasted no time in getting more members in to Kuwait shortly after by alternative means.
The S.A.S dont usually rely on commercial airlines to transport them around the globe :)
Around 20 members of the S.A.S were in Kuwait from late June/early July, some 3-4 weeks before the invasion began, supplying daily reports back to the UK.
The CO of the regiment at the time also wasted no time in getting more members in to Kuwait shortly after by alternative means.
The S.A.S dont usually rely on commercial airlines to transport them around the globe :)
well they are not called Super Army Soldiers for nothing
Around 20 members of the S.A.S were in Kuwait from late June/early July, some 3-4 weeks before the invasion began, supplying daily reports back to the UK.
The CO of the regiment at the time also wasted no time in getting more members in to Kuwait shortly after by alternative means.
The S.A.S dont usually rely on commercial airlines to transport them around the globe :)
Actually they do, and quite often! Depends on where they are going though :source:
Jimthered
23-10-07, 02:15 PM
Frustrated by the slow boarding passengers in front of them , members of the SAS lob a grenade down the jet bridge before boarding a flight from London to Iraq.
http://www.eliteukforces.info/images/sas/sas-flash.jpg
Frustrated by the slow boarding passengers in front of them , members of the SAS lob a grenade down the jet bridge before boarding a flight from London to Iraq.
http://www.eliteukforces.info/images/sas/sas-flash.jpg
:crackoff:
They do use commercial flights for travelling across to the other side of the world when it's routine deployment.
lfc_1892
31-10-07, 05:41 AM
Why ask Thatcher or advise her of the invasion? John Major was PM at the time.
Hey there mate, it was Thatcher who was PM at that time.
der_Fuchs
01-11-07, 09:21 PM
I stand corrected. :shake:
Snigger
01-11-07, 09:55 PM
I believe it, in fact they based a TV show on it. To stop all the civilians that were tortured killed etc... they took all those who survived, all their friends, colleagues and family and put them on another plane and crashed it over an island so that no one would ever talk it about it.
lfc_1892
02-11-07, 07:09 AM
I believe it, in fact they based a TV show on it. To stop all the civilians that were tortured killed etc... they took all those who survived, all their friends, colleagues and family and put them on another plane and crashed it over an island so that no one would ever talk it about it.
:haha:
I believe it, in fact they based a TV show on it. To stop all the civilians that were tortured killed etc... they took all those who survived, all their friends, colleagues and family and put them on another plane and crashed it over an island so that no one would ever talk it about it.
apparently they all survived the crash tho and are still living on this island. They are trying to find a way to get off the island but a group called "The Others" are there doing everything they can to prevent them leaving - saw it on TV
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