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anfieldanfield
17-03-10, 05:07 PM
...want England to win the World Cup ?
It's completely beyond me.
As a kid I supported England. Of course. Then around the age of about 17 I became apathetic about my country, now I am 100% against them and I hope they lose every game so I can cheer on Spain and enjoy the football.
Everything about England winning the World Cup would ruin my summer.
The thought of that horrible leg-breaking, bribe-taking, racist, girlfriend-stealing, slit-eyed, chavvy cunt Terry, Rooney and Captain Rio "Oh shit..I forgot I had another drugs test, silly me" Ferdinand on the front pages of every newspaper in Britain for weeks and weeks afterwards makes me want to vomit.
Seriously, how can ANYONE actively support England ?
I don't get it.
anfieldanfield
17-03-10, 05:08 PM
Shit, sorry mods, wack this in the General footy bit. Cheers
Because I'm English? :confused:
The same question could be asked as to why you would want Spain to win.
I'm sure Holland could be another option, or are you going on the balance of players.
Also, if we had a German manager who filled our club with Germans and they were playing England in the final, would you be in town wearing your Germany shirt?
DannyMan2006
17-03-10, 05:14 PM
Because I'm English? :confused:
Exactly :haha:
anfieldanfield
17-03-10, 05:15 PM
Because I'm English? :confused:
The same question could be asked as to why you would want Spain to win.
I'm sure Holland could be another option, or are you going on the balance of players.
Also, if we had a German manager who filled our club with Germans and they were playing England in the final, would you be in town wearing your Germany shirt?
I don't want Spain to win, I'm not really arsed, just if I had to support anyone I would support them because of the Liverpool link and they play lovely football.
I love the World Cup, football on the tele every day :rock:
How ridiculous. Of course I want my country to win. I can't give any love to most of the squad but I am cheering on England, not Terry or Rio or any of those fuckwits. To be honest I'm far more amazed that you can support Spain based on the fact we have a couple of Spaniards in our team and a Spanish manager. You going to support Israel if Avram gets the job? :p
Kenneth
17-03-10, 05:17 PM
I will be supporting England. Not obsessively, but I want them to win. Why wouldn't I? Because there are players from other clubs in the team? Seems a bit childish to me.
I'll get behind England when it comes round to the World Cup, the biggest problem I have with England isn't the players, it's the horrible, horrible, horrible "fans" that spout racist bile at every opportunity.
I'll get behind England when it comes round to the World Cup, the biggest problem I have with England isn't the players, it's the horrible, horrible, horrible "fans" that spout racist bile at every opportunity.
But we know they are just ignorant bastards using football as a platform. They don't represent me in the slightest same as the Ultras in most of the rest of Europe and on that note the Spanish are far far worse.
i do hate the whole en ger land thing but when it comes to the WC and EC then i do watch and cheer them on. apart from that i am farily meh about them
it would be good for capello though
I'll get behind England when it comes round to the World Cup, the biggest problem I have with England isn't the players, it's the horrible, horrible, horrible "fans" that spout racist bile at every opportunity.
Sums it up for me. :handshake:
I will of course be backing the team this Summer but will deffo adopt Spain as my second team, with Argentina No.3. :D
little dave hedgehog
17-03-10, 05:23 PM
i'm just excited to watch some football this summer. the england usa game is going to be a good day out!
Sir Wayne Roney but not Sir Bob paisley.................... end of convesation
kingfunk
17-03-10, 05:46 PM
...want England to win the World Cup ?
Dont worry, They wont. :handshake:
How ridiculous. Of course I want my country to win.
Dont worry, They wont. :handshake:
I will be supporting England. Not obsessively, but I want them to win.
Dont worry, They wont. :handshake:
I don't want Spain to win, I'm not really arsed, just if I had to support anyone I would support them because of the Liverpool link and they play lovely football.
Agree. :handshake:
When England go out.. :)
Sums it up for me. :handshake:
I will of course be backing the team this Summer but will deffo adopt Spain as my second team, with Argentina No.3. :D
If Spain played England, and the whole of the country would be creaming about Rooney (ARISE SIR WAYNE!), comparing him favourably to Torres etc etc, would you honestly be able to bring yourself to want England - with Terry, Ferdinand, Rooney, Lampard and co) - to beat Nando's Spain? I know Gerrard plays for them too but fuck that...he's stuck out on the left acting as the sacrificial lamb for Thuper Fwank. Fuck that. Come on Spain :D
The Erectile Banana
17-03-10, 06:14 PM
The question that really should be asked is why do so many English not want or not care about their country winning the World Cup? Is it purely down to a hatred of Terry/Rooney et al? You've got a good chance this year, probably the third or fourth best side in the tournament on paper.
If Thierry Henry had not been such a cheating twat the entire population of Ireland would be hyperventilating with excitement right now. Well, the enitr population minus one contrary individual named R. Keane.
Sure, some of your players are royal cunts, but they're still your royal cunts.
The question that really should be asked is why do so many English not want or not care about their country winning the World Cup? Is it purely down to a hatred of Terry/Rooney et al? You've got a good chance this year, probably the third or fourth best side in the tournament on paper.
If Thierry Henry had not been such a cheating twat the entire population of Ireland would be hyperventilating with excitement right now. Well, the enitr population minus one contrary individual named R. Keane.
Sure, some of your players are royal cunts, but they're still your royal cunts.
I'm sure I've said on here many times, growing up as a kid I was extremely fond of England and have some great memories. Going to bed early to get up for the late night games of Mexico 86, crying with Gazza in 1990...I loved them.
That steadily eroded after Euro 96 (which I thought was great). I'm not sure why it is. For me it was just a natural process whereby I now find myself having no affection for the England team. Maybe I think England is for kids. I don't cheer or go mental when they score. And I think it's mainly because I loathe the majority of the players and I certainly detest the Ingerlund mentality and cringe at every song the fans sing, and the small town boys with Leyton Orient and Mansfield Town flags. I have no affinity with them. Shit fans, shit songs, small time fuckers who just want their slice of the glory pie and to be able to sing songs about Gerrard et al as though they're their own. I guess it's a kind of snobbery really. I can't help it though. Fuck England.
Having said all that there's a good chance my stance will soften as the tournament comes round, but it'd never reach the point where I'm going to bed depressed after they've been knocked out on penalties.
Stanbull
17-03-10, 07:02 PM
I couldn't give a shit about England, only one team for me and my only concern is injuries to our players on international duty
Guess I lost interest after the appalling treatment of John Barnes by Engerlund Fans and the national press, remember thinking, Fuck them all I have nothing in common with any of the primative twats
Given the choice I'd rather Liverpool won a throw in than England winning anything
The question that really should be asked is why do so many English not want or not care about their country winning the World Cup? Is it purely down to a hatred of Terry/Rooney et al? You've got a good chance this year, probably the third or fourth best side in the tournament on paper.
If Thierry Henry had not been such a cheating twat the entire population of Ireland would be hyperventilating with excitement right now. Well, the enitr population minus one contrary individual named R. Keane.
Sure, some of your players are royal cunts, but they're still your royal cunts.
We celebrate your national day for fucks sake, not ours.
I hate the English football team. Similar to what Shaggy has posted above, but with a bit more hate.
In fact, I just don't like nationalism, full stop. Be-it English, American, Balkan or whatever.
Daffy Duck
17-03-10, 07:45 PM
I don't think you have to be a nationalist to be a fan of your national team. I, for one, am definitely not a nationalist, and the selection of Slovenian national sport teams is probably the only thing that still binds me to this country, since everything else is going to shit or is already in one. Culture, politics, the incredible narrow-mindedness of the most of my fellow Slovenians - I don't know what I would do if I weren't a sports fan :haha:
But it's different here than in England - over there you have a selection of quality football events (maybe only in terms of atmosphere this year :crackoff:) you can attend week in, week out, and I can understand how you can not give a fuck about a team which maybe plays 10 matches per season, when you can watch LFC every week. Over here, the national team is the only opportunity to see some proper football, since the national league players offer tactical and technical abilities similar to those uf English u15 teams.
I've been visiting Slovenia's matches since I was 9 and I have always loved it so much, the atmosphere, the players, the fact that the team almost always exceeds the expectations of the fans - again, everything described is probably opposite to what you feel about English national team.
That's fair enough.
I'm from Croatian descent, and when they first gained their independence from the 'oppressive serbs', it was great to see the red checks, and the birth of a nation. My parents do my head in though. If Croatia were represented in a knitting competition, they would probably get the flags out.
I was born in England, but have never felt particurly English.
I think I'm just reacting against those things.
That said, I prefer the Croatian team to the English one.
Craig_H
17-03-10, 08:07 PM
I'm sure I've said on here many times, growing up as a kid I was extremely fond of England and have some great memories. Going to bed early to get up for the late night games of Mexico 86, crying with Gazza in 1990...I loved them.
That steadily eroded after Euro 96 (which I thought was great). I'm not sure why it is. For me it was just a natural process whereby I now find myself having no affection for the England team. Maybe I think England is for kids. I don't cheer or go mental when they score. And I think it's mainly because I loathe the majority of the players and I certainly detest the Ingerlund mentality and cringe at every song the fans sing, and the small town boys with Leyton Orient and Mansfield Town flags. I have no affinity with them. Shit fans, shit songs, small time fuckers who just want their slice of the glory pie and to be able to sing songs about Gerrard et al as though they're their own. I guess it's a kind of snobbery really. I can't help it though. Fuck England.
Having said all that there's a good chance my stance will soften as the tournament comes round, but it'd never reach the point where I'm going to bed depressed after they've been knocked out on penalties.
You could've been reading my mind there mate. Exactly the same for me, almost word for word.
It's not a conscious decision to me, i dont CHOOSE not to support england. I just dont feel it. When Liverpool score, i go mental. When england score, unless it's Stevie or Crouchy, i dont really feel any particular sense of happiness or anything. I just think something like 'oh, they scored'. That's it.
I'm not one who specifically WANTS england to lose. I'm just not fussed either way, although the media circus (re the discussion we were having last night about Keys, for example) just tips me over to the side of not wanting them to win the WC.
The only good thing about it would be the possibility of a national holiday, and the positive impact it'd have on the economy. That's all.
The Erectile Banana
17-03-10, 08:25 PM
I'm sure I've said on here many times, growing up as a kid I was extremely fond of England and have some great memories. Going to bed early to get up for the late night games of Mexico 86, crying with Gazza in 1990...I loved them.
That steadily eroded after Euro 96 (which I thought was great). I'm not sure why it is. For me it was just a natural process whereby I now find myself having no affection for the England team. Maybe I think England is for kids. I don't cheer or go mental when they score. And I think it's mainly because I loathe the majority of the players and I certainly detest the Ingerlund mentality and cringe at every song the fans sing, and the small town boys with Leyton Orient and Mansfield Town flags. I have no affinity with them. Shit fans, shit songs, small time fuckers who just want their slice of the glory pie and to be able to sing songs about Gerrard et al as though they're their own. I guess it's a kind of snobbery really. I can't help it though. Fuck England.
Having said all that there's a good chance my stance will soften as the tournament comes round, but it'd never reach the point where I'm going to bed depressed after they've been knocked out on penalties.
Interesting.
So, a lot of the In-ger-land brigade are supporters of lower league teams looking for their slice of the glory pie.
Do supporters of other big English teams feel the same way about the nation team?
We celebrate your national day for fucks sake, not ours.
I hate the English football team. Similar to what Shaggy has posted above, but with a bit more hate.
In fact, I just don't like nationalism, full stop. Be-it English, American, Balkan or whatever.
:haha:
The whole world celebrates our national day - more than we do. It's pretty low key over here, although it has become that bit more Americanised in recent years.
Does the media coverage have a lot to do with your attitude? The English media is ridiculous -if your boys win a match they are sure fire world cup winners and if they lose they're pond scum. Such polarising attitudes are sure to create antipathy amongst more sensible folk like yourself.
That's fair enough.
I'm from Croatian descent, and when they first gained their independence from the 'oppressive serbs', it was great to see the red checks, and the birth of a nation. My parents do my head in though. If Croatia were represented in a knitting competition, they would probably get the flags out.
I was born in England, but have never felt particurly English.
I think I'm just reacting against those things.
That said, I prefer the Croatian team to the English one.
Same here although my dad, who is a foreigner, is England's biggest supporter.
Craig_H
17-03-10, 08:36 PM
Do supporters of other big English teams feel the same way about the nation team?
It's a common thing among Man Utd fans too, but less so from Arsenal or Chelsea fans. I wonder if it's a north/south thing. But then, i'm just outside London and i feel the same way as the Shagster.
Does the media coverage have a lot to do with your attitude? The English media is ridiculous -if your boys win a match they are sure fire world cup winners and if they lose they're pond scum. Such polarising attitudes are sure to create antipathy amongst more sensible folk like yourself.
It plays a part, certainly. The cringeworthy fucks dont do anything to encourage support for england. Embarrassing cunts, most of them.
Personally, i cant stand the sensationalisation that the english media thrives on.
maverick
17-03-10, 09:46 PM
I'm sure I've said on here many times, growing up as a kid I was extremely fond of England and have some great memories. Going to bed early to get up for the late night games of Mexico 86, crying with Gazza in 1990...I loved them.
That steadily eroded after Euro 96 (which I thought was great). I'm not sure why it is. For me it was just a natural process whereby I now find myself having no affection for the England team. Maybe I think England is for kids. I don't cheer or go mental when they score. And I think it's mainly because I loathe the majority of the players and I certainly detest the Ingerlund mentality and cringe at every song the fans sing, and the small town boys with Leyton Orient and Mansfield Town flags. I have no affinity with them. Shit fans, shit songs, small time fuckers who just want their slice of the glory pie and to be able to sing songs about Gerrard et al as though they're their own. I guess it's a kind of snobbery really. I can't help it though. Fuck England.
Having said all that there's a good chance my stance will soften as the tournament comes round, but it'd never reach the point where I'm going to bed depressed after they've been knocked out on penalties.
Concurred. For kids and the retarded.
I cant support a bunch of no marks for 4 weeks when they turn my stomach for 10 months
I'm English so there isn't anyone else I can support.
Must admit that if any non LFC player scores I cheer through firmly gritted teeth, "yay we scored, but I still hate you, you Manc/ Chav cunt".
I support the team but only 1 of the individuals.
But the booing of other National Anthems, by our fans, makes me ashamed to be English. All this "let's celebrate our insular ignorance and bang on about the fucking Empire" makes my blood boil.
Darth Marty
17-03-10, 11:13 PM
Im welsh but I have no fucking chance of cheering that lot on in a finals so I do find myself getting behind England, being a LFC fan I cant help myself although the lack of reds in the current squad does dampen my enthusiasm somewhat. If it came to it a Spain squad with Pepe, Arbeloa, Riera, Alonso, Torres plus Villa and other cracking footballers in it would get my support against a England squad with Stevie &, well Stevie. Plus the manc & chav cunts. Its a no brainer to be fair.
anfieldanfield
18-03-10, 12:00 AM
I cant support a bunch of no marks for 4 weeks when they turn my stomach for 10 months
:handshake:
rudedog
18-03-10, 01:40 AM
its the commentating and over-hype in the press that usually does my nut in
Too many Manc & Chav pricks in the England squad for ANY Liverpool fan in their right mind to want to support them imo!
the rev leeroy brown
18-03-10, 11:19 AM
anyone but england.....thats my view on any interantional comp. the english would be fucking intolerable for years to come. thank fuck they have no chance!!
knockers
18-03-10, 12:02 PM
Fuck that I want England to win the world cup, it would be fantastic. It brings all my mates together who support other teams for trip down the pub to watch the game. Some of my first childhood football memories are of England's 1986 and 1990 world cup runs. The point about some Engerland 'fans' being racist nobheads etc is valid to a point but surely this is a reason to take the team back to the football fans of England and not some small minded nobheads.
Fuck that I want England to win the world cup, it would be fantastic. It brings all my mates together who support other teams for trip down the pub to watch the game.
Must admit I did used to love that but I prefer to watch England games at home now :D....it's fucking bedlam in so many pubs, often full of twats who never watch football other than Ingerland games.
Also as my mates and I got older, the occasion of England games used to start with us all united in the pub, until the game started and, say, Heskey (when playing for us) would get all sorts of stick off the Mancs and others, I'd stick up for him, start dishing it out to Neville, Scholes et al and before we knew it we had pissed up inter-club warfare and it all got out of hand. :D
Are we agreed that anyone English who wears a Brazil shirt to the pub during the world cup is a cunt?
knockers
18-03-10, 12:36 PM
Must admit I did used to love that but I prefer to watch England games at home now :D....it's fucking bedlam in so many pubs, often full of twats who never watch football other than Ingerland games.
Also as my mates and I got older, the occasion of England games used to start with us all united in the pub, until the game started and, say, Heskey (when playing for us) would get all sorts of stick off the Mancs and others, I'd stick up for him, start dishing it out to Neville, Scholes et al and before we knew it we had pissed up inter-club warfare and it all got out of hand. :D
Yeah I always give it out to the Utd players, especially when Beckham got sent off in 1998. My mates birthday is the 15th of June and there always seems to be an England world cup or Euro game in or around that date so it's a good excuse for us all to get together for a drink (when we make the finals that is) as people have started to have kids and settle down the numbers have got less and less
I love world cup/euro summers. Long hot days and footy in the pub you can't beat it, I remember the last world cup we have everyone round to ours, I used to live in a house with 4 mates and we had a bar and projector it was class, after the game we all piled down to the local park and played a game of drunken football, happy dayss.
Haha done that too, drunken post-World Cup match football is fucking brilliant. :D Those were the days. :D
Maxiedge
18-03-10, 12:44 PM
Drunk football in the hot searing sun is class :haha:
Getting a bit dizzy just thinking about it.
SimonNo7
18-03-10, 12:48 PM
Because I'm English? :confused:
:handshake: and after wanting LFC to win every trophy possible I want England to win every trophy possible.
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