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joyno
05-11-06, 06:35 PM
are you thinking what i'm thinking about the reason for terry's sending off,it was the first thing that came to mind especially with the look of anger on chimboda who really had nothing to do with it, or was it just a second yellow for an innocuous challenge and i'm looking to deep into things.:confused:

REDSCOUSER
05-11-06, 06:41 PM
Exactly what I thought as well mate. The way Spurs players reacted can only mean racial abuse. What a tosser he is, King is a fellow Int'l team mate as well.

fowlen
05-11-06, 06:41 PM
are you thinking what i'm thinking about the reason for terry's sending off,it was the first thing that came to mind especially with the look of anger on chimboda who really had nothing to do with it, or was it just a second yellow for an innocuous challenge and i'm looking to deep into things.:confused:

Had some mates watching the game with me.....
After the replays were shown, we all said the exact same thing.
There did not seem to be a challenge worthy of a second yellow, so yes, we are thinking something similar......

fowlen
05-11-06, 06:42 PM
Exactly what I thought as well mate. The way Spurs players reacted can only mean racial abuse. What a tosser he is, King is a fellow Int'l team mate as well.

If there was something racist it will hopefully be in Poll's report.....and Terry should be immediately stripped of the England captaincy and receive a lengthy ban!

REDSCOUSER
05-11-06, 06:47 PM
If there was something racist it will hopefully be in Poll's report.....and Terry should be immediately stripped of the England captaincy and receive a lengthy ban!

could not agree more, England captain should lead by example not be a racist thug.

Los Rojos
05-11-06, 06:48 PM
If there was something racist it will hopefully be in Poll's report.....and Terry should be immediately stripped of the England captaincy and receive a lengthy ban!

Terry did nothing physical to deserve the second yellow so I couldn't understand why he'd been sent off at the time. I also couldn't believe that Terry didn't complain about the second yellow which possibly suggests something was said.

I agree with Fowlen, he should be stripped of the England captaincy if he is found to have made racist comments leading to the sending off.

joyno
05-11-06, 06:50 PM
my brother's got a couple of mates who were at the game spurs fans and they text him making accusations against terry allegedly saying the n word, but they might just be trying to stir things up, if he did it will get brushed under the carpet, but also the look of disbelief on swp face as he tried to pull him away surprised me as well.

Marky
05-11-06, 06:53 PM
Exactly what I thought as well mate. The way Spurs players reacted can only mean racial abuse. What a tosser he is, King is a fellow Int'l team mate as well.

Not only that they grew up together in East London, played in the same team as youngsters as well.
Lets not go jumping the gun though lads. :handshake:

CharlieMansonsSquint
05-11-06, 06:57 PM
We'll soon find out. Poll will have to put it in his match report if it's racism.

joyno
05-11-06, 07:06 PM
We'll soon find out. Poll will have to put it in his match report if it's racism.i dont think poll will put it in his report if it was as vicious as we are surmising it would be a political time bomb, can you imagine the fallout he's the england captain, it would turn english football upside down, i honestly think it will be covered over, if he did say it i hope im wrong.

Marky
05-11-06, 07:08 PM
We'll soon find out. Poll will have to put it in his match report if it's racism.

Thing is Sky said Poll reported that Terry had been sent off for holding in the box.
It had to be mroe than that, no way would Ledly King react like he did for a little shove, especially to his International Captain.

Like i say, we'll probably just have to wait and see on this one although it will be fucking major if JT is caught/reported to have made Racist comments.

Bob
05-11-06, 07:14 PM
Wooooaaaahhhh folks!!! Let's not jump to conclusions...

If it was racial abuse, he would have got a red, and it will be mentioned in the Poll's report. If that's the case then the knives will well and truly come out, but let's hold back till then eh?

There's a bit of wishful thinking here me thinks :rolleyes:

Bob
05-11-06, 07:15 PM
i dont think poll will put it in his report if it was as vicious as we are surmising it would be a political time bomb, can you imagine the fallout he's the england captain, it would turn english football upside down, i honestly think it will be covered over, if he did say it i hope im wrong.
You do have a point there to be fair.

Marky
05-11-06, 07:18 PM
Wooooaaaahhhh folks!!! Let's not jump to conclusions...

If it was racial abuse, he would have got a red, and it will be mentioned in the Poll's report. If that's the case then the knives will well and truly come out, but let's hold back till then eh?

There's a bit of wishful thinking here me thinks :rolleyes:

Not to sure about that Bob but it was very strange that:
1. Terry got another yellow for something of nothing.
2. Ledley King reacted like he did to a close friend, his captian at Int level as well.
3. The black players of Spurs basically ran after Terry after his altercation with King.
4. Terry didn't complain at all with the decision(very unlike him).

Shaggy
05-11-06, 11:08 PM
If John Terry wasn't a footballer he'd be in fucking jail. He is a c*nt, a complete and utter c*nt.

CharlieMansonsSquint
05-11-06, 11:14 PM
i dont think poll will put it in his report if it was as vicious as we are surmising it would be a political time bomb, can you imagine the fallout he's the england captain, it would turn english football upside down, i honestly think it will be covered over, if he did say it i hope im wrong.

If he did racially abuse King or another coloured Spurs player why would they keep mum about it, if the FA tried to suppress it?

If he is a racist yob - he's a yob anyway - then he shouldn't be England captain.

It would also make a farce of that Racism campaign that's been constantly put front and centre by the FA for the past few years, if one of the most high profile players in this country was going around using the N word.

Either way it's more negative press for the Chavs and I love it.

PeachSalsa
05-11-06, 11:26 PM
I saw the game as well and watched replays. Terry said something that totally pissed people off. Have no idea what it was, but it certainly caused a major ruckus. And it was short, not a long chat.

thesilverfoxlfc
05-11-06, 11:34 PM
Bout time he was sent off not the first time he's been involved in racial stuff

Bob
05-11-06, 11:39 PM
Poll won't have heard nowt, having seen it earlier - he's said it was for the push already. He was positioned too far away to hear anything.

No story hear i'm afraid.

lfc4ever
05-11-06, 11:42 PM
Maybe it was something like "Fukkin Yids!" At least that would wind them all up, without it being classed as racist to a singular person.

thesilverfoxlfc
05-11-06, 11:49 PM
Fukkin Yids = ????????

Morph
06-11-06, 12:00 AM
My first thought was that he must have said something racist, but then Poll does look to be out of earshot at first.

However Poll might have originally blown for a push and after hearing something which might have been said, he might have changed his decision, as he didn't look instantly like he was going to give a yellow card. Also Terry didn't complain at all which I find odd if he didn't do anything?

But of course it's all guesswork and we wouldn't like it about one of our own, but terry is Cnut.

lfc4ever
06-11-06, 12:02 AM
Fukkin Yids = ????????

http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=419872

And read what happens when a Spurs fan is called a yid:

http://www.caughtoffside.com/spurs-so-wrong-arsenal-so-right-again.html

And yet, they have taken back the word yid:

http://www.pointsofjew.com/2005/11/attitude_toward.html

Ron_Mexico
06-11-06, 05:13 AM
terry shouldnt be england captain anyway regardless of what happened today.

hes less of a captain than beckham and thats sayin somethin. he's thick as fook and the senior players dont respect him because they know theyve got a glorified pub footballer as captain. i think hes shite, i really dont know what all the hype is about. he's more talent than lampard but theyre in the same vein of shiteness.

all he has going for him is passion and any fooker with a pulse can manage that. i mean hes decent in the air and good at the last ditch tackle, but other than that hes average. the english press seem to think he is god and lampard is jesus. :rolleyes:

but today, he must have said somethin to get him sent off, no other reason available. the way SwP reacted says it all, he was disgusted with what terry did. fair play to spurs players for not over reacting, if i was black i would have taken his head off

Red_Polo
06-11-06, 05:36 AM
I have just watched the replay on a high quality vid in slow motion and it looks to me like he's saying 'fucking *******, fuck off' just after he gets up. That's my best guess anyway and whilst I'm fairly sure of those last two words, what preceded it I'm not all that sure of at all. From the position Terry was in when he said it I would not be surprised if the ref and a whole load of Spurs fans had heard the exact words.

Shaggy
06-11-06, 07:58 AM
I have just watched the replay on a high quality vid in slow motion and it looks to me like he's saying 'fucking *******, fuck off' just after he gets up. That's my best guess anyway and whilst I'm fairly sure of those last two words, what preceded it I'm not all that sure of at all. From the position Terry was in when he said it I would not be surprised if the ref and a whole load of Spurs fans had heard the exact words.

I was fairly sure Terry said to Ledley King "fuck off...fuckin' prick".

Slim
06-11-06, 08:16 AM
Terry is just a cock, end of. His face when Drogba equalised against Barca on Wednesday was so annoying. I think his sending off is instant karma.

Reece
06-11-06, 08:38 AM
the senior players dont respect him because they know theyve got a glorified pub footballer as captain. i think hes shite, i really dont know what all the hype is about. he's more talent than lampard but theyre in the same vein of shiteness.

all he has going for him is passion and any fooker with a pulse can manage that. i mean hes decent in the air and good at the last ditch tackle, but other than that hes average. the english press seem to think he is god and lampard is jesus. :rolleyes:


That my friend, is complete bollocks. Fair enough you dislike him, but he is a fucking quality defender.

desertscouser
06-11-06, 09:33 AM
That my friend, is complete bollocks. Fair enough you dislike him, but he is a fucking quality defender.


Absolutely. Anyone who doesn't think he's a quality defender is an idiot. In fact I would also go as far as saying that of all the Chavs Terry is probably the one player who doesn't attempt to cheat every 5 minutes. He's still a cnut, as is everyone associated with the club, but he's less of one than the others.

As for these racist allegations, I would be very surprised if there was any truth in them. I'm not sure if Cashley Cole, Essien, Makalele and Drogba would be very pleased if their captain was a racist biggot. I think it's bull...

Joe Le Toff
06-11-06, 10:49 AM
If John Terry wasn't a footballer he'd be in fucking jail. He is a c*nt, a complete and utter c*nt.

I couldnt have put it better myself.

If he has said anything then surely it wont be long before those involved in the incident leak it to the press via agents or 'close friends'?

Bob
06-11-06, 11:10 AM
That my friend, is complete bollocks. Fair enough you dislike him, but he is a fucking quality defender.
Of course he is.

I thought some of the stuff Ledley King did in that game was top drawer as well. No surprise he performs at Intl. level.

Shaggy
06-11-06, 11:14 AM
Of course he is.

I thought some of the stuff Ledley King did in that game was top drawer as well. No surprise he performs at Intl. level.

Him and Michael Dawson were fantastic. I was miffed we never signed Dawson after looking at him for so long and now I'm even more miffed. Liverpool fan an all.

paulcooper4
06-11-06, 11:18 AM
Him and Michael Dawson were fantastic. I was miffed we never signed Dawson after looking at him for so long and now I'm even more miffed. Liverpool fan an all.
My big worry with dawson at the time we were looking at him was wether he would ever fill out. he seemed a bit lightweight. But seeing him now, he has definitely beefed up a bit, and is quite strong on the ball.:handshake:

Reece
06-11-06, 11:32 AM
Didn't Dawson keep getting ill/injured (glandular fever?) around the time we were interested.

Him and King were superb yesterday.

Anfield Mole
06-11-06, 01:22 PM
Good player or bad player Terry is a [unt.

Diego
06-11-06, 01:42 PM
Good player or bad player Terry is a [unt.
i like how you power phrased the word **** there, i might actually take that up, a valuable contribution to our mighty cause...

Terry is in fact a proper [unt :D

REDSCOUSER
06-11-06, 11:56 PM
I was fairly sure Terry said to Ledley King "fuck off...fuckin' prick".

for some reason I don't think that's why Poll sent him off, we see/hear a thousand times players using the F word or the prick word in footy but refs let it go as it's part of the game..for Poll to send Terry off it had to be something more than that.

Bob
07-11-06, 12:08 AM
for some reason I don't think that's why Poll sent him off, we see/hear a thousand times players using the F word or the prick word in footy but refs let it go as it's part of the game..for Poll to send Terry off it had to be something more than that.
Did you not see the push, or simply wish there was a more sinister reason for his offing?

Fiddy
07-11-06, 01:16 AM
Did you not see the push, or simply wish there was a more sinister reason for his offing?

Seeing as there's been absolutely fuck all anywhere else about these rumours, I'm assuming they're bollocks :handshake:

Ron_Mexico
07-11-06, 04:34 AM
That my friend, is complete bollocks. Fair enough you dislike him, but he is a fucking quality defender.

haha fair play i wrote that after too many beers. he is a good defender but i do hate him as much as you can hate someone you dont know.

i do think he is like hyypia in that isolated one v one he can be beaten a bit too easily

REDSCOUSER
07-11-06, 03:57 PM
Did you not see the push, or simply wish there was a more sinister reason for his offing?

yes i did see the push, but i did not think it was that bad to warrant a yellow..yeh i did wish it was more cos he's a CHAV c888 :eyebrow:

thesilverfoxlfc
09-11-06, 01:26 AM
Terry supposingly said to King you "Monkey face" or something racial like that and Poll heard him but has been told to keep his mouth shut because Terry is the England captain which is a load of bollicks protecting him is just out of order

desertscouser
09-11-06, 06:20 AM
Terry supposingly said to King you "Monkey face" or something racial like that and Poll heard him but has been told to keep his mouth shut because Terry is the England captain which is a load of bollicks protecting him is just out of order

Where did you hear that? I don't believe a word of it...

kopdan
09-11-06, 08:19 AM
Wooooaaaahhhh folks!!! Let's not jump to conclusions...

If it was racial abuse, he would have got a red, and it will be mentioned in the Poll's report. If that's the case then the knives will well and truly come out, but let's hold back till then eh?

There's a bit of wishful thinking here me thinks :rolleyes:

amen

some of the comments on this thread are unbelievable

He was sent off for the push and the argy bargy afterwards. Had he walked away from it, he wouldnt have got sent off.

Mumsafan
09-11-06, 09:53 AM
Whatever it was, he didn't argue did he

Neil Young
09-11-06, 10:06 AM
Whatever it was, he didn't argue did he
That's not evidence of anything. Maybe he should be commended for not arguing with the ref.

Bob
09-11-06, 10:09 AM
That's not evidence of anything. Maybe he should be commended for not arguing with the ref.
Pah! Now that is wishful thinking :crackoff:

desertscouser
09-11-06, 10:15 AM
From Koptalk. It's amazing how made up this sh!t is....

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This is an email about John Terry being sent off that's doing the rounds down south.

Thought that some of you might find it interesting...

Apparently on the internet message boards it is alleged that John Terry told Ledley King to 'Shut up you lippy bl*ck m*nkey' before getting sent off on Sunday. This would explain the following:

Why King went mad, when normally he is mild tempered and the incident appeared harmless

Why Chimbonda went berserk and had to be physically restrained

Why Zakora went mad also

Why Drogba, who was there and always gets involved, did nothing

Why Terry calmly walked away expecting to be sent off for what appeared on TV to be nothing

Terry was accused by Eto of making racist comments in the Barcelona game last year.

Apparently a Spurs player has leaked this, but Chelsea are working overtime to keep it quiet. Ashley Cole has said that Poll told him the lack of discipline by Chelsea was out of order and Chelsea are trying to discredit Poll, but he cannot possibly come out and say what Terry did as he is the England captain, preferring to say he was sent off for 'ungentlemanly conduct'.

Finally, Rio Ferdinand said in his book that a current England player was a known racist. Wonder who he meant?

If this story is true, it will be massive and I can't believe the press haven't got hold of it yet. Chelsea must be weighing journalists out left, right and centre

thesilverfoxlfc
09-11-06, 10:18 AM
Where did you hear that? I don't believe a word of it...


I was told by a friend who said it was all over the net on forums

Bob
09-11-06, 10:19 AM
From Koptalk. It's amazing how made up this sh!t is....

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This is an email about John Terry being sent off that's doing the rounds down south.

Thought that some of you might find it interesting...

Apparently on the internet message boards it is alleged that John Terry told Ledley King to 'Shut up you lippy bl*ck m*nkey' before getting sent off on Sunday. This would explain the following:

Why King went mad, when normally he is mild tempered and the incident appeared harmless

Why Chimbonda went berserk and had to be physically restrained

Why Zakora went mad also

Why Drogba, who was there and always gets involved, did nothing

Why Terry calmly walked away expecting to be sent off for what appeared on TV to be nothing

Terry was accused by Eto of making racist comments in the Barcelona game last year.

Apparently a Spurs player has leaked this, but Chelsea are working overtime to keep it quiet. Ashley Cole has said that Poll told him the lack of discipline by Chelsea was out of order and Chelsea are trying to discredit Poll, but he cannot possibly come out and say what Terry did as he is the England captain, preferring to say he was sent off for 'ungentlemanly conduct'.

Finally, Rio Ferdinand said in his book that a current England player was a known racist. Wonder who he meant?

If this story is true, it will be massive and I can't believe the press haven't got hold of it yet. Chelsea must be weighing journalists out left, right and centre

The person who wrote that/buys into that should be shot.

Sweet jaysus. :rash:

thesilverfoxlfc
09-11-06, 10:27 AM
He did say something racial thats for sure but the email seems to be a bit scripted.

desertscouser
09-11-06, 10:37 AM
He did say something racial thats for sure but the email seems to be a bit scripted.

How is it 'for sure'?

The way I see it, is if Terry did make a racial comment there would be absolutely no way he would get away with it. Why would King, Chimbonda, Zokora etc not blab to the press? Why would they want to protect Terry if he made racist comments to one of them?

thesilverfoxlfc
09-11-06, 10:38 AM
How is it 'for sure'?

The way I see it, is if Terry did make a racial comment there would be absolutely no way he would get away with it. Why would King, Chimbonda, Zokora etc not blab to the press? Why would they want to protect Terry if he made racist comments to one of them?

Hitler got away with killing 9 millions Jews...it happens

desertscouser
09-11-06, 10:49 AM
Hitler got away with killing 9 millions Jews...it happens

wtf?

I've never heard 9 million as the number quoted but I guess that's another thread all together.

Back to your analogy....everyone knew Hitler was guilty. NO ONE knows that Terry is guilty of any racial slurs apart from a few internet geeks. Where's the evidence? There isn't any whatsoever.

desertscouser
09-11-06, 10:51 AM
Silverfox, of course if it turns out that Terry did racially abuse King then I will happily hold my hands up and admit that the internet geeks were right all along but until that happens I prefer to label the story as pure bull sh!t.

dww
09-11-06, 11:27 AM
My big worry with dawson at the time we were looking at him was wether he would ever fill out. he seemed a bit lightweight. But seeing him now, he has definitely beefed up a bit, and is quite strong on the ball.:handshake:

Dawson was crap when King was out injured. He is a decent player but he needs some one to organise him. I don't think he is the quality required for us.

thesilverfoxlfc
09-11-06, 12:03 PM
Silverfox, of course if it turns out that Terry did racially abuse King then I will happily hold my hands up and admit that the internet geeks were right all along but until that happens I prefer to label the story as pure bull sh!t.


Fair enough:handshake:

I dont know whether its true or not either i guess will have to wait and see what happens

Bob
09-11-06, 12:25 PM
Fair enough:handshake:

I dont know whether its true or not either i guess will have to wait and see what happens

He did say something racial thats for sure but the email seems to be a bit scripted.

Bob wept. :eyebrow:

Be careful throwing acusations about bud - you'd be livid if someone did it to Stevie G or yourself - ask Paul C :handshake:

thesilverfoxlfc
09-11-06, 12:43 PM
Bob wept. :eyebrow:

Be careful throwing acusations about bud - you'd be livid if someone did it to Stevie G or yourself - ask Paul C :handshake:

I wasnt throwing it around someone said it to me and from the start of this thread it had been discussed that it was something racial :handshake:

Fierce
09-11-06, 01:18 PM
Haha, I just got sent that same email! With the title 'from a reliable trusted source in the press'

I spoke to a Chelsea season ticket holder who said "its common knowledge that Terry is a racist twat, but he's still the best defender in the country"

Typical Chelsea fans retort

Joe Le Toff
09-11-06, 01:21 PM
Haha, I just got sent that same email! With the title 'from a reliable trusted source in the press'

I spoke to a Chelsea season ticket holder who said "its common knowledge that Terry is a racist twat, but he's still the best defender in the country"

Typical Chelsea fans retort

What a shower of twats

desertscouser
09-11-06, 01:22 PM
Haha, I just got sent that same email! With the title 'from a reliable trusted source in the press'

I spoke to a Chelsea season ticket holder who said "its common knowledge that Terry is a racist twat, but he's still the best defender in the country"

Typical Chelsea fans retort


Chelsea fans just ooze class.

JRG
09-11-06, 03:58 PM
Chelsea fans just ooze class.

In never knew you spelled shite like that :confused:

ronan
09-11-06, 11:13 PM
personally i'd like to see it come out in the press
might keep the london hacks off our backs for a while at least

thesilverfoxlfc
10-11-06, 12:16 AM
personally i'd like to see it come out in the press
might keep the london hacks off our backs for a while at least

Ah you couldnt do that poor Chelski