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Fowler_God
23-07-06, 08:39 PM
Just for the banned people from that site ive forgot the name of!
The Informer(dunk)
The horse says he's meeting Dirk Kuyts agent tomorrow in Liverpool.
Feyenoord have until Tuesday to accept our final offer. They had not made a decision either way up until yesterday.
The horse says he has to be at Melwoods training facilities on Tuesday afternoon and needs to know what is happening with Kuyt before then.
I will be at the stadium tomorrow as part of the adidas link up and will try and obtain more news.
save your 30 notes and buy your kids an extra christmas present
Do we think this will happen for good now?
rcasemore
23-07-06, 09:03 PM
Be nice to be able to think we have filled another position which would just leave us the pesky right side of midfield!!
Fowler_God
23-07-06, 09:07 PM
Be nice to be able to think we have filled another position which would just leave us the pesky right side of midfield!!
True, but only judging on what i saw of him at the world cup i would say no. Does not seem to be anything special, what you can say about him is that he works hard.
Good signing IF we get him. Hard working Rafa type player.
brendan
23-07-06, 09:46 PM
Good signing IF we get him. Hard working Rafa type player.
What a lazy, inaccurate misnomer that is:
"Rafa Type Player"
kurtangle01
23-07-06, 09:55 PM
What a lazy, inaccurate misnomer that is:
"Rafa Type Player"
what was wrong with that statement?:confused:
he is the sort of player rafa likes.
brendan
23-07-06, 10:01 PM
what was wrong with that statement?:confused:
he is the sort of player rafa likes.
Expound
kurtangle01
23-07-06, 10:47 PM
Expound
:confused:
MrMichael
23-07-06, 11:02 PM
Allow me. He's 110% committed, plays wherever he is asked to without complaint and to the best of his ability, has no insignificant amount of footballing nouse and quality, scores goals for fun and would appear to be hungry to make a step up and willing to learn.
Put otherwise, he's really damn good... id pro quo a Rafa-type player :D
Howard_lfc
24-07-06, 12:02 AM
Good signing IF we get him. Hard working Rafa type player.
Bang on Tom. We always say don't judge a player on his wc appearances.
I'd be chuffed if we got Kuyt.
H
Allow me. He's 110% committed, plays wherever he is asked to without complaint and to the best of his ability, has no insignificant amount of footballing nouse and quality, scores goals for fun and would appear to be hungry to make a step up and willing to learn.
Put otherwise, he's really damn good... id pro quo a Rafa-type player :D
Well said. Somebody needs to enter "Rafa-type player" into Wiki.
Didn`t Johnny H just say we weren`t in for Kuyt?
H`s record on KT is probably the best there is, so I know who I belive
FoxForceFive
24-07-06, 07:07 AM
True, but only judging on what i saw of him at the world cup i would say no. Does not seem to be anything special, what you can say about him is that he works hard.
You cant judge a player solely on their WC performances, no doubt about it.
I've never seen him play, but from what I'm led to believe he's worth trying for, however it does worry me somewhat that he has all this publicity & hype, yet very few people have seen him play on a regular basis.
In case it comes up, I think his nationality/league has nothing to do with it, for every Kezman you can name a RVN, so it's no judge of a player IMO.
if he could come to liverpool then its great. Hardworking type of player.
mickeydocs
24-07-06, 09:25 AM
the informer... funny name... one of dunk's aliases no doubt.
Koptalk has been insistent that Kuyt will sign for the past week. No one else seems to share this view.
You cant judge a player solely on their WC performances, no doubt about it.
I've never seen him play, but from what I'm led to believe he's worth trying for, however it does worry me somewhat that he has all this publicity & hype, yet very few people have seen him play on a regular basis.
In case it comes up, I think his nationality/league has nothing to do with it, for every Kezman you can name a RVN, so it's no judge of a player IMO.
If we were to judge players solely on their World Cup performances then we'd have purchased Diouf 4 years ago for
[QUOTE=Cacodemon]If we were to judge players solely on their World Cup performances then we'd have purchased Diouf 4 years ago for
[QUOTE=Cacodemon]If we were to judge players solely on their World Cup performances then we'd have purchased Diouf 4 years ago for
Sorry G-Man, but I think it's a fair point.
Diouf DID have an impressive World Cup, he did look like a very impressive player - and taken in isolation, you'd have said he was a great player. However, we all know different.
I think we are pertaining to the same point, in that, a good (or bad) World Cup doesn't provide a true reflection of a players ability.
And if I remember rightly, Diouf had only been named African Player of the year once, before he signed, he was named African Player of the year for second time soon after joining. Sorry to be pedantic;)
Sorry G-Man, but I think it's a fair point.
Diouf DID have an impressive World Cup, he did look like a very impressive player - and taken in isolation, you'd have said he was a great player. However, we all know different.
I think we are pertaining to the same point, in that, a good (or bad) World Cup doesn't provide a true reflection of a players ability.
And if I remember rightly, Diouf had only been named African Player of the year once, before he signed, he was named African Player of the year for second time soon after joining. Sorry to be pedantic;)
The thing is though, people have rejected Trezeguet as a signing based on his World Cup performances. I wasn't having a pop at you Rich it's just annoying that if you have a good world cup you MUST be a Diouf in waiting
according to a few people.
That is a fair point! Rejecting Trezeguet based on his World Cup performance is madness, his goal-scoring record is outstanding for Juve.
However, I think he's probably not worth the sky-high wages that he would no doubt demand.
I place my total trust in the scouting network, set-up by Rafa and Pako. They will have seen a player 20-30 times before deciding whether to make a bid or not. I think they are a pretty good judge of character.... ;)
TheStig
24-07-06, 12:46 PM
Anyone who is rejecting Trezeguet on his WC performances is a prat because I think he only played about 90 mins.
60 odd against Togo and 30 mins against Italy.
I am rejecting Trezeguet (well we won't sign him anyway!) because I've never seen him play well over a period of about 6 years! He has a great goal record but I've just never seen him play well!
The thing about Diouf is, he never had a good goal scoring record. So why Houllier thought he'd solve our problems is beyond me.
I think I only ever saw Diouf strike the ball cleanly once, and that was a goal he scored for us in the Carling Cup, I can't even remember the opposition. He hit a ball from 12 yards out and it fizzed low and hard into the goal....
Really our problems were more in terms of creativity than the actual goal scoring though. I can see exactly what GH saw in Diouf, creativity, ability to dribble and good strength, but I think he should have had a better idea of his character before he signed.
We never saw the best of Diouf for a avriety of reasosns. GH should have played him more centrally and brought in a player for the right, rather than adding Diao to a squad already pretty strong in terms of combatative central midfielders.
While undoubtedly a fool who did a lot of damage to our clubs reputation I think people are too harsh on his actual performances. He was a willing and just about passable right sided option for us. It was never his best position and wasn't worth anywhere near the money we paid for him but that is not his fault and he did at least put in the work.
brendan
24-07-06, 01:08 PM
I think I only ever saw Diouf strike the ball cleanly once, and that was a goal he scored for us in the Carling Cup, I can't even remember the opposition. He hit a ball from 12 yards out and it fizzed low and hard into the goal....
It was Crystal Palace, and you're right, it was one of the few times he had a shot and managed to strike it properly.
Diouf's horrible persona aside, he had so many problems as a player. He always worked hard, and had brilliant close control, but he played as a winger with his back to goal, and so slowed-up play horribly. He also rarely released a ball quickly and with it, ran like he was wearing wellies.
When you add that to his dreadful shotting and erratic crossing, well, GH has never wasted so much money.
He was an umitigated disaster, really.
It was Crystal Palace, and you're right, it was one of the few times he had a shot and managed to strike it properly.
Diouf's horrible persona aside, he had so many problems as a player. He always worked hard, and had brilliant close control, but he played as a winger with his back to goal, and so slowed-up play horribly. He also rarely released a ball quickly and with it, ran like he was wearing wellies.
When you add that to his dreadful shotting and erratic crossing, well, GH has never wasted so much money.
He was an umitigated disaster, really.
How true, I was doubly disappointed as before the WC, where he played well, I really thought he would set Anfield alight and redeem GH in my eyes.
Sadly wasn't to be.
:lfc:
I wonder how Diouf performed in training when it was 'one touch' football, he must have been crap at that.
He has a classic case of "why have one touch of the ball, when 10 will do"
Other Classic examples,
C. Ronaldo
Denilson
Adriano
Ruel Fox (remember him!)
Tino Asprilla
I remember a few times he'd beat his man then take a step back to try and beat him again. He rarely put in an early ball to give the strikers a chance.
Stevie M
24-07-06, 05:29 PM
I agree with the general sentiments that Kuyt seems to be more of the "type of player" that Rafa would sign. We're also being "linked" with Klose who could be considered of that type as well.
There is a certain logic to trying to sign a hardworking, goalscoring, not particularly fast, teamworker to form a new strikeforce in compliment to Bellamy. Certainly Fowler & Crouch would prove useful if considered as cover or used in rotation rather than as, for example, Crouch's situation last year where we had little option but to play him for long stretches of time.
However, signing another striker should probably not be our priority at the moment, given that apart from Bellamy, Crouch & Fowler, we technically have Gonzalez, Kewell, Pongolle, Garcia & Mellor can all play as a striker (I'd mention Le Tellec but his squad number suggests little chance of hom getting a game this season).
Rather we are faced with ridiculously poor options for RM - Garcia who is often very poor there, Pongolle who has not impressed there at all or Gerrard, who if moved there reduces the central midfield options to Alonso, Sissoko & Zenden (which makes CM our supposedly strongest area an issue, imo).
we should be concentrating on getting that RM signed... I've actually stopped caring who it is... given that the only natural RM we've had since McManaman (who could play in many other positions as well) was Nunez.... frightening to think....
If we have the money for another striker... fine.... but I'd rather we spent that extra bit of cash and signed the RM.
Once that's achieved.... I'd take either Kuyt or Klose... and we delighted.
bobhorse
25-07-06, 01:40 AM
Sorry G-Man, but I think it's a fair point.
Diouf DID have an impressive World Cup, he did look like a very impressive player - and taken in isolation, you'd have said he was a great player. However, we all know different.
I think we are pertaining to the same point, in that, a good (or bad) World Cup doesn't provide a true reflection of a players ability.
And if I remember rightly, Diouf had only been named African Player of the year once, before he signed, he was named African Player of the year for second time soon after joining. Sorry to be pedantic;)
Can we get this right, we agreed to sign him prior to the world cup and the fee was agreed then we all sat down to watch the world cup and he had a great first game and we thought we had hit the Jackpot hindshight is a wonderful thing mmmmmmm
bobhorse
25-07-06, 01:45 AM
I would like to think along these lines
Alves
Pennant signed as back up and that leaves a striker to sign
Kuyt at 8m or
and here is the one that i hope has some sort of foundation and not just my wishfull thinking
Villa for 18m
Then we have the squad complete
murder_inc
25-07-06, 02:03 AM
theres a story doing the rounds on KT InCider that Klose is a target now. Dunk/Informer posted it so probably its horseshit.
theres a story doing the rounds on KT InCider that Klose is a target now. Dunk/Informer posted it so probably its horseshit.
Hasn't he just signed for someone else this summer? Or was that Podolski?
Red_Polo
25-07-06, 02:28 AM
Hasn't he just signed for someone else this summer? Or was that Podolski?
Aye that were Podolski who's gone to Bayern. Klose's still at Bremen. I'd love it if we nabbed him, he's just what we need.
REDSCOUSER
25-07-06, 02:44 AM
Kuyt would be an excellent signing. He can score goals, assist and works hard for the team. He is the type of player RAFA likes. Sign him. ;)
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