Players in Players out 2010

[CJ]

Yes, it sort of shows how financing a club and a team is not simply adding and subtracting sale fees.

it doesnt change the picture that the club is being run badly. It does show a lack of understanding agian though.

[CJ]

it also doesnt change the fact that pur slow uses smoke and mirrors

but as usual sos dont understand exactly what they are doing.

i was thinking about this earlier. Those that really want to do something and willing to get up and do something seem to be in the main the ones without the skills required.

its depressing typing the same thing again and again but they dont listen and arent willing to improve.

[CJ]

one thing i do wonder is as most transfers are scheduled over a period of time are we also seeing the results of back end loading maybe? or appearence clauses etc?

[Exiled_red]

Looking at our squad as it stands we only have about 15 senior players (plus kids) we're going to have to bring in some players, what the fees will be it's best not to speculate at the moment.

[Exiled_red]

one thing i do wonder is as most transfers are scheduled over a period of time are we also seeing the results of back end loading maybe? or appearence clauses etc?

You would hope that the club would put money aside to pay for those transfer fees, also it's likely that we are being paid fees (for players we've sold) over a period of time too, so there should be some income from that. The club should have budgeted appropriately, it seems even Moores and Parry (great businessmen that they were ) did that. So it shouldn't be a problem particularly give the fact we haven't had a great deal of expense on the transfer front in recent years

[CJ]

You would hope that the club would put money aside to pay for those transfer fees, also it's likely that we are being paid fees (for players we've sold) over a period of time too, so there should be some income from that. The club should have budgeted appropriately, it seems even Moores and Parry (great businessmen that they were ) did that. So it shouldn't be a problem particularly give the fact we haven't had a great deal of expense on the transfer front in recent years

i just wonder if it has any impact on our spending. The real obvious impact is the leeches just trying to look at the full picture

[Exiled_red]

i just wonder if it has any impact on our spending. The real obvious impact is the leeches just trying to look at the full picture

I think that the bigger impact is the greed of the owners and the way the have financed their ownership of the club (the debt). The interest payments have certainly had an effect, and perhaps the combination of structured deals and interest payments have made things a little more difficult, but I don't believe that structured deals alone would have caused such problems. The debt repayments are responsible for the vast amount of our financial problems.

[Vermilion]

I think that the bigger impact is the greed of the owners and the way the have financed their ownership of the club (the debt). The interest payments have certainly had an effect, and perhaps the combination of structured deals and interest payments have made things a little more difficult, but I don't believe that structured deals alone would have caused such problems. The debt repayments are responsible for the vast amount of our financial problems.

Without a doubt.

And the constant failure of our owners to follow through with their big publically announced plans, has turned us into a laughing stock....just to top it all off.

[red g]

I am sure we knock a few million of profit after this little signing.

well done Roy

[Fernandinho]

Signing on fee will probably do that.

[red g]

some more money knocked off total profit again today, with Wilson

[dom9]

on the back of the recent debates / discussions on the hierarchy ,if you cut through all the smoke and mirrors

these are the facts and cannot be dressed up any other way

Given all the bold statements made over the past few months by Hicks, Purslow et al, thought it'd be worthwhile to keep an eye on this:

Transfers 2010.

Total Profit so far: £19.35m


7 Out: Dossena £4.7m, Voronin £1.8m, Mihaylov £1.5m Yossi £5.5m, San Jose £2.6m, Duran £0, Insua £5.0m (Total: £21.1m)


3 In: Maxi £0, Shelvey £1.75m, Jova £0 (Total: £1.75m)

Not a fact that Insua has left yet.

Will you be including Cole's signing on fee, rumoured to be as high as £5Million?

[red g]

Not a fact that Insua has left yet.

Will you be including Cole's signing on fee, rumoured to be as high as £5Million?

maxi was 1.5million sign on as well.

[CJ]

merlboo is out of his depth. Much like SOS

its a shame. but its a problem as those with the ability dont usually get involved.

it then exposes those who have the desire as not having the skill

its a difficult problem to address.

i hope they do even though i dont believe in them as they stand.

[EwarWoo]

should we except it though ?

Accept, not except. You use it every other bloody sentence you should know the correct word!

And how can we define something as acceptable or not before we've even defined what that thing is is entirely useless for anything other than propaganda.

As I said on the other thread. I'll wait till September 1st.