25-11-09, 12:30 AM
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David Ngog
Developing into a cracking little player. 5 goals in 8 games spearheading the attack of a struggling team and often isolated upfront for large stretches of the game.
Outside of his goal scoring he looks a threat whenever he has the ball. He has a great attitude and it is nice to see a young player having the guts to take on a defender. His game is still a bit too raw but it is obvious that he is developing, learning and maturing with every passing game.
Good Finisher, Good control of the ball and can showboat a bit at times  ,
Has a decent amount of trickery also, Does not seem to be phased out by playing upfront on his own without great support.
If he develops physically and continues improving at the same rate, we may have a more than useful squad player on our hands.
Needs a lot of work on his celebrations though
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25-11-09, 12:32 AM
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He's getting better and growing in confidence with every game. He's working hard which is more than can be said for Babel or Voronin.
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25-11-09, 12:33 AM
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He is improving, and as you say, playing upfront on his own in this pile of poop for the last month or two couldn't have been easy.
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25-11-09, 12:33 AM
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I'm New
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Quote:
Originally Posted by peekay
Developing into a cracking little player. 5 goals in 8 games spearheading the attack of a struggling team and often isolated upfront for large stretches of the game.
Outside of his goal scoring he looks a threat whenever he has the ball. He has a great attitude and it is nice to see a young player having the guts to take on a defender. His game is still a bit too raw but it is obvious that he is developing, learning and maturing with every passing game.
Good Finisher, Good control of the ball and can showboat a bit at times  ,
Has a decent amount of trickery also, Does not seem to be phased out by playing upfront on his own without great support.
If he develops physically and continues improving at the same rate, we may have a more than useful squad player on our hands.
Needs a lot of work on his celebrations though
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Since the goals have come his confidence, touch and movement have all got so much better
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25-11-09, 12:40 AM
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Dr.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheElephantMan
He's getting better and growing in confidence with every game. He's working hard which is more than can be said for Babel or Voronin.
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Even at his current stage of development, he is better than Voronin. I am fairly confident that he will have a career in one of the European top leagues.
Hopefully players like Pacheco, Ecclestone, Ayala, Kelly, Amoo, Irwin will get a chance to play in the Europa league and develop the same way. There is now an opportunity for some of our youngsters to claim squad places for the next PL campaign.
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25-11-09, 12:44 AM
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I dont really think he is going to cut it as a single striker unless he beefs up a bit. I would prefer us to play with two up when Torres does not play. That way Ngog can partner with someone, and make better use of his running.
I think there are only few strikers who are good enough to play up on their own, and we cant afford two of them.
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25-11-09, 01:31 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Charly
I dont really think he is going to cut it as a single striker unless he beefs up a bit. I would prefer us to play with two up when Torres does not play. That way Ngog can partner with someone, and make better use of his running.
I think there are only few strikers who are good enough to play up on their own, and we cant afford two of them.
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He's 20 isn't he? With his build it'd be pretty surprising if he didn't bulk up.
I'm going to go a bit further than anyone else and say I think he has the potential to be one of the world's top strikers because there's nothing he doesn't have. There's a lot of work before that happens but I'm really excited about his potential and also the excellent work he's putting in currently.
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25-11-09, 01:36 AM
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Originally Posted by BFG
He's 20 isn't he? With his build it'd be pretty surprising if he didn't bulk up.
I'm going to go a bit further than anyone else and say I think he has the potential to be one of the world's top strikers because there's nothing he doesn't have. There's a lot of work before that happens but I'm really excited about his potential and also the excellent work he's putting in currently.
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And the fact that he already knows where the goal is.
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25-11-09, 01:40 AM
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He has done well to be fair.
Still raw though and needs to keep his head down and keep improving.
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25-11-09, 02:15 AM
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Respect Your Elders
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He has done well, but I dont think he is much of a threat when on his own. We have far too many strikers who are not dangerous on the ball. In fact we have few players in the quad who have both pace and the ability to dribble; Torres, Gerrard, Babel.... Agger?
I would love to see Babel given a chance up front for a run of games, as he has the ability to skin a defender.
If we had a target man up front alongside Ngog, I can see that being a good partnership. Being a Liverpool striker is a tough job. You play up on your own, without decent wingers to provide crosses, and a single midfielder breaking through the middle.
To think we have several strikers in the reserves who are thought of as being decent, playing one up is not gonna give many a chance, and will probably only see them given a chance on the wing.
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25-11-09, 09:04 AM
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I've been impressed with him, he seems to have the right attitude and works hard, he also looks like he wants to do something, he's young and will improve. I don't think he's getting the credit his record deserves, if he was a 20 year old scum player, the press would be hailing him as the next big thing or crediting the manager with getting a bargin. Although maybe the fact he's being over looked is good as it keeps the spotlight and pressure off him
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25-11-09, 10:18 AM
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Respect Your Elders
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I think he has done really well and is showing great signs of improvement. I think he is holding the ball up so well these days. He already appears stronger and he is learning to use his body and arms to hold off defenders.
He is getting himself in good positions and i hope this continues...
Well done lad.
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25-11-09, 10:35 AM
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One of the very few positives at the club at the moment.
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25-11-09, 11:51 AM
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Did anyone else notice the commmentator last night say that according to Ngog's dad his name should be pronounced 'N'gog' and not 'N'go'.
Shame really as I like the nickname Wash and N'gog really does sound a bit cavemanish -still it's up to the lad to decide what he's called and not his dad I suppose.
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25-11-09, 03:24 PM
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Getting better with every game and turning slowly into a great little player, why cant Babel improve like him?
I'll tell you, he doesnt want it as much as N'gog does.
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25-11-09, 03:30 PM
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I Should Get Paid For This!
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It is an amazing season. Amidst the ashes, astoundingly, Ngog has risen to carry the fight. Sure, 8 times out of 10 it's a shambles what he does 20% of the time is worth the wait!
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28-11-09, 12:30 PM
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From Kevin McCarra's Blog in the Guardian
"Of late, David Ngog, bought for £1.5m from Paris St-Germain, has begun to assume some significance.
His claims were, of course, enhanced when he added the second goal in a 2-0 win over Manchester United this month but there is also a general improvement. In Budapest Ngog showed more confidence and caught the eye with persistent contributions.
He is no prodigy but there are merits. Ngog, 20, regularly turns down interview requests from the French media with the disarming comment that he will speak when he has done something worth talking about. Should the progress of a fairly strong and quick attacker continue, he may soon face the microphones.
Note has been taken of the young striker and Paul Le Guen, once the manager of PSG, has begun to argue that an under-used Ngog should have been more patient when at the club. Comments like that will make Benítez feel satisfied with his scouting system.
Ngog may not be on the rampage in the Premier League but he epitomises the sort of option Liverpool crave."
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28-11-09, 12:39 PM
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I am the Walrus
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Clearly a confident lad. I'm rooting for him.
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28-11-09, 12:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by anfieldanfield
Clearly a confident lad. I'm rooting for him.
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28-11-09, 12:48 PM
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I wish Babel had this sort of attitude
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28-11-09, 12:57 PM
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A snip at £1.5m.
Knows where the goal is certainly
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28-11-09, 01:19 PM
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a long way to go but in all fairness he has also come a long way since he joined last season.
Looks like he's settling into the team and 5 goals speaks for itself. Although he's no torres he is quietly going about his own business.
If he gets 10 goals this season that has to go down as a successful season for the lad. Hopefully he will do it.
In a way you can understand rafa not signing owen because ngog has scored goals and owen wouldnt have got any more than the 5 that ngog has - maybe more important goals like the opening in matches but not more. With experience he could become a real top player for us.
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28-11-09, 01:49 PM
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£1.5m for a second string striker who's scoring goals in an underperforming team. That's a pretty good deal to me.
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28-11-09, 05:49 PM
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I've Been Here Since 1892
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Originally Posted by Spionkop69
£1.5m for a second string striker who's scoring goals in an underperforming team. That's a pretty good deal to me.
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Exactly. Imagine him in a team that was on the form we showed last season.
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28-11-09, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by BigChief
Exactly. Imagine him in a team that was on the form we showed last season.
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But strangely people (ie the press / media / Sky) are conveniently ignoring things like this. Because its not doom and gloom about Rafa or the club.
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28-11-09, 06:01 PM
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not only are they ignoring him, they're using him - of all recent signings - to put the boot in. purely because he's not torres or drogba.
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28-11-09, 06:06 PM
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I Should Get Paid For This!
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Originally Posted by barnes10
not only are they ignoring him, they're using him - of all recent signings - to put the boot in. purely because he's not torres or drogba.
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Yeah. I've tried to stop short of saying there is an agenda in the press against us, but when you see things like this, then you have to wonder - especially in the light of Man City's form hardly getting a mention despite over £200m of outlay in the past two seasons.
As for them slagging off Wash because he's not Torres or Drogba, perhaps the press could show as an example of another proven world class player who cost £1.5m? I'll bet they'll struggle!
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28-11-09, 06:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by peekay
Even at his current stage of development, he is better than Voronin. I am fairly confident that he will have a career in one of the European top leagues.
Hopefully players like Pacheco, Ecclestone, Ayala, Kelly, Amoo, Irwin will get a chance to play in the Europa league and develop the same way. There is now an opportunity for some of our youngsters to claim squad places for the next PL campaign.
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there isn't a cat in hells chance of the young lads playing in the Europa league cos its now our number 1 hope for a trophy,they don't even get a look in in the league cup so they won't get near this.
As for N'Gog,he's done very well,pace,trickery, an eye for goal and a very level head it would seem.He's a big lad too but haven't seen much in the way of aerial threat though.
needs to beef up a bit and keep progressing
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16-12-09, 10:45 PM
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Another goal for the lad tonight, yet people (like that sarcy cunt on BBC) don't seem to rate him at all and laugh him off.
Tell you what, I'm sure if he was playing for United, Chelsea or Arsenal - and putting in the performances that he is right now - then the media would be creaming themselves over this next 'wonderkid'
Be interesting to see how he develops over the next few seasons, as he looks a bargain so far (although it's early days yet). Well in chap, keep it up  
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16-12-09, 10:59 PM
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Yeah he's doing brilliantly for us. £1.5m was a steal, a very astute signing.
Is that 6 goals in 8 starts for us?
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16-12-09, 10:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lee
Another goal for the lad tonight, yet people (like that sarcy cunt on BBC) don't seem to rate him at all and laugh him off.
Tell you what, I'm sure if he was playing for United, Chelsea or Arsenal - and putting in the performances that he is right now - then the media would be creaming themselves over this next 'wonderkid'
Be interesting to see how he develops over the next few seasons, as he looks a bargain so far (although it's early days yet). Well in chap, keep it up  
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To be fair I think they would be biging him up if we were winning more regularly. The story for us is that we are failing, the story for Arsenal is that once again they have produced a young team not quite ready to win the league and Wenger is getting angry. Things that don't fit the simple story don't get said and too many people think that the papers are giving them a reasonable informed opinion.
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16-12-09, 11:04 PM
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Makes you wonder how many of our other most promising young players would do given a run in the team.
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16-12-09, 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Operation
Makes you wonder how many of our other most promising young players would do given a run in the team.
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Makes you think that maybe the gaffer knows when a player is ready and when he isn't.
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16-12-09, 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Scratch
Makes you think that maybe the gaffer knows when a player is ready and when he isn't.
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I am sure even rafa would accept that it's not possible to predict precisely how a player will develop when they actually experience top level opposition in regular competitive games.
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16-12-09, 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Operation
I am sure even rafa would accept that it's not possible to predict precisely how a player will develop when they actually experience top level opposition in regular competitive games.
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Can't really afford to do that though, can we.
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16-12-09, 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Charly
I dont really think he is going to cut it as a single striker unless he beefs up a bit. I would prefer us to play with two up when Torres does not play. That way Ngog can partner with someone, and make better use of his running.
I think there are only few strikers who are good enough to play up on their own, and we cant afford two of them.
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The lad is what only 20 !! hes doing just fine on the size front and thickening up as you would expect ... he has been a real ray of light the season
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16-12-09, 11:31 PM
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Can't really afford to do that though, can we.
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With the continuing poor form of some regulars, I think we can to an extent.
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16-12-09, 11:31 PM
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Est1892 Legend
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lee
Another goal for the lad tonight, yet people (like that sarcy cunt on BBC) don't seem to rate him at all and laugh him off.
Tell you what, I'm sure if he was playing for United, Chelsea or Arsenal - and putting in the performances that he is right now - then the media would be creaming themselves over this next 'wonderkid'
Be interesting to see how he develops over the next few seasons, as he looks a bargain so far (although it's early days yet). Well in chap, keep it up  
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He's doing well for us lets hope he keeps doing so, he's certainly not getting the credit he deserves though, maybe that's a good thing as it keeps the pressure off (to some extent)
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17-12-09, 12:16 AM
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I've Been Here Since 1892
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Was really impressed with his awareness, run and shot with his 'weaker' foot for the near miss at the far post against Kirkland. Already showing better technique than Kuyt.
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17-12-09, 12:19 AM
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I think he'll be a star
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