The FA Cup winners to the CL?

[GordonGecko]

BTW if the fa cup is won by one of the top 3 the final place goes to the team 4th in the league not the losing finalist

[Joe King]

The Glove is spot on! Why would teams like Spurs and Arsenal graft for a full season when they can win 6 games in the season to get into Champions League?

[Kenneth]

Bad idea in my opinion. Would reduce the PL to 2 or 3 top clubs and then the rest, rather than 4, which is bad enough. And it would be way too easy for **** clubs to suddenly strike it rich with a few wins in the cup, half of which would be against the likes of Boston Utd. The league is king and the CL should be the best teams in the best leagues.

[JohnDoe]

Bad idea. We need the four best teams entering the CL and the only way you can make sure that happens is by judging them over an entire season. Would never work.

[Darth Marty]

I have changed my opinion, i didnt realise that by this happening it would restrict c.l places to the top 3 premiership teams and having thought some more I agree that with a fairly freakish result a championship team could well get to play c.l football which really isnt fair i guess.
Still i suppose its good that they are looking at ways to mix things up a bit eh.

[The Glove]

Bring back the Cup Winners Cup. Everyone wants to see the best teams so atlest the teams in that comp actually won something to get there rather than just be mid table like the UEFA.

[Shaggy]

Is this Platini's thinking? ****ing tool. UEFA should keep their beaks out.

[NIred1]

Platini =


Fact!

[Imy]

UEFA need to sort the UEFA cup out, add more prestige to it, more prize money even.

The FA Cup winners should be in the cup winners cup not in the Champions league or UEFA cup.

[The Glove]

UEFA need to sort the UEFA cup out, add more prestige to it, more prize money even.

The FA Cup winners should be in the cup winners cup not in the Champions league or UEFA cup.

Never mind that ****, who is the bird with the big wet knockers?

[Imy]

Never mind that ****, who is the bird with the big wet knockers?

Thats my wife your perving at...

































yeah in my dreams



Don't know who she is but she is certainly lovely!

[bigfooty]

It's a terrible idea and a purely cosmetic one at that. Yes it may give back some the "Champions" aspect to the Champions League, but I'd rather they just cull it to league champions only than include domestic cup winners.

[Colemere]

Presumeably they would want to take one place away from the league because other countries woulld not be happy with five teams from one country and after the should we/shouldn't we be allowed in I thought it was said that 5 teams from one country would not happen again.

[TheStig]

Win 6 games and get CL football? Hardly fair.

[sambirken]

Platinis CL reforms

http://www.http://www.teamtalk.com/football/sto...695477,00.htmlteamtalk.com/football/story/0,16368,2483_2695477,00.html

The FA Cup winners will qualify for the Champions League and the final of Europe's top club competition will be held on a Saturday from 2009, Platini announced on Thursday.

Although Platini has agreed to postpone a final decision on reform by a month, he made it clear he is prepared to force through the changes.

Platini said: "The English FA Cup is one of the greatest competitions and the winner really deserves to be represented in the Champions League rather than the team that comes fourth."

Chelsea chief executive Peter Kenyon, one of the clubs' representatives on UEFA's new Professional Football Strategy Council (PFSC), said it remained to be demonstrated how the changes would benefit football.

The Platini plans include:

:: England, Spain and Italy having three teams qualifying automatically for the Champions League group stage via their domestic league. The champions of Europe's leading 12 countries would be guaranteed a place in the group phase.

:: The top 16 countries including England and Scotland would have domestic cup winners entering a qualifying competition with four group stage places up for grabs.

:: Six group stage places reserved for the champions of the 40 lowest leagues among UEFA's 53 member countries, who would play off in three qualifying rounds.

:: The final played on a Saturday night rather than Wednesday night in a stadium of a minimum 75,000 capacity with 75% of tickets reserved for fans.

:: The UEFA Cup changed to a similar format as the Champions League, with the Intertoto Cup scrapped.

Platini said the leagues and clubs could present counter-proposals to UEFA's executive committee in November.

He said: "We need to ensure football is more balanced so that the rich do not become much richer.

"If another proposal is better than my philosophy that is fine but I doubt they will come up with something better.

"Unless someone comes up with a fabulous proposal we will decide on mine."

Platini unveiled his proposals in Monaco today to the PFSC, made up of representatives of UEFA, the clubs, the leagues and players' unions.

Kenyon warned however that it would be a mistake for UEFA to over-ride the clubs and leagues.

He said: "The way the strategy council has been set up is to gain the views of everyone in football, That has been a long time in coming and it would be unfortunate if it fell at the first hurdle.

"Clubs generally across Europe felt that there wasn't a need for change and I was delighted there was no decision today.

"Ironically in this proposal, England is one of the countries that changes the least of all. There would be three automatic spots instead of two so there is a benefit there and over the last 10 years, the FA Cup winners have been one of the four.

"We have one of the best club competitions in the world so it needs to be demonstrated what benefits change would bring."

The new UEFA Cup format would see a group stage involving 48 teams divided into 12 groups. The winners and runners-up would go into a knockout round of 32 along with the teams finishing third in the Champions League group stage.

Platini's proposals for the Champions League final from 2009 followed problems at this season's final in Athens when Liverpool fans were involved in trouble outside the stadium.

Platini added: "I would like to see 75% of the stadium being reserved for fans.

"After the final in Athens I would like to see the Champions League final played at a weekend. I was very, very disappointed that there were no children in the stadium - if it was on a Saturday then children and families could come.


"I also want the final in future to be in a big, modern stadium with a capacity of about 75,000 people. There is always vast demand for tickets, and people come without tickets and that creates a security problem."






Now i know hes a **** but some of what hes saying is good and sensible. shame other stuff is stupid and hes a dick:whatever: