El Clásico

[Craig_H]

how old are you?

not meant in an insulting way just wonder if you are say late teens early 20s

Must be.

[ChesterDave]

Real Madrid utterly schooled tonight.

Couldn't live with Barca in footballing terms so resorted to nasty nasty tactics.

Is there a man more deserving of being called a cunt than Ramos? Should have been booked in the first half, should have been sent off for that horrible kick on the touchline and then added to both of them his efforts at the end.

Barca, utterly brilliant.

[Darkon]

do you think he needs a world cup to be considered a true great?

no, not really, I think that is a funny criteria to judge a player on, but it will help him for sure. True greats can come from small nations, so for me it's not a must (an example would be Michael Laudrup for me).

But I still think he needs to show this level througout his career, like Zidane, King Kenny, Maradona etc. did over many seasons.

[CJ]

a question for those with espn

how was orient v droyelsdon?

[SB]

FULL TIME! Despite an ugly conclusion, the abiding memory from this 5-0 rout is a beautiful display by Barcelona to send Jose Mourinho home with his tail firmly between his legs. Barca were imperious, Real listless.

[CJ]

Real Madrid utterly schooled tonight.

Couldn't live with Barca in footballing terms so resorted to nasty nasty tactics.

Is there a man more deserving of being called a cunt than Ramos? Should have been booked in the first half, should have been sent off for that horrible kick on the touchline and then added to both of them his efforts at the end.

Barca, utterly brilliant.

maybe carvhallio?

[danperkins]

Dan, Maradona won Serie A on his own.

Then he went and won the World Cup single handed.

You didnt see him play properly, did you? Nothing wrong with that, i dunno why you dont just say so.

He was a genius but not as complete as Zidane. And its each to their own, Zidane has a ridiculous amounts of individual awards and has won things with every club he has been with. You say Maradona won the World Cup on his own, i don't disagree he was a phenonmen unreal player. Zidane done the same with France in the World Cup and the Euros. Man of the match in the World Cup final, man of the match in the Champs League final, man of the tournament in the Euros.

Look at his honours, and his personal honours, guy was out of this world. Himself and Maradona out on their own. Messi could be up there but not yet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zinedine_Zidane

For me Zidane is the most complete footballer of all time.

[lickedlollipop]

omg what a game by barca.....



OK, RM was really bad today, but overall, benzema is utter ****e.

[Chris]

Woeful tactics from Mourinho as sensational as Barca are.

If It was football manager he's just moved to "very insecure"

[CJ]

no, not really, I think that is a funny criteria to judge a player on, but it will help him for sure. True greats can come from small nations, so for me it's not a must (an example would be Michael Laudrup for me).

But I still think he needs to show this level througout his career, like Zidane, King Kenny, Maradona etc. did over many seasons.

the main reason i ask is the generally recognised greats most won a world cup

ah i have answered my own question with the word most !! oops

[Darkon]

I think that in the modern game its asking too much for any player to play at that level for another 10 years. Theres just too many games these days and it will take a toll on his body. Bear in mind though that he's already been around for a few years doing this. Id say we will see another 5 seasons of him at this level, hopefully

fair point, it will be hard to keep up for so long. But guess that in 5 years he will already have been around for 10

but to me he still needs to show a high level over a career, perhaps not quite as now but still show a consistent high level. For example Ronaldinho was fantastic, the best player around for about 5 seasons, but he will never be mentioned with the legends because he fell down completely.

[McDermotX]

Woeful tactics from Mourinho as sensational as Barca are.

If It was football manager he's just moved to "very insecure"

think that applies to his personality in general

[danperkins]

Well that Barcelona performance IMO was one of the best footballing displays of all time. Milan beating Barca in Champs League final 4-0 is number one but that is right up there.

[Craig_H]

He was a genius but not as complete as Zidane. And its each to their own, Zidane has a ridiculous amounts of individual awards and has won things with every club he has been with. You say Maradona won the World Cup on his own, i don't disagree he was a phenonmen unreal player. Zidane done the same with France in the World Cup and the Euros. Man of the match in the World Cup final, man of the match in the Champs League final, man of the tournament in the Euros.

Look at his honours, and his personal honours, guy was out of this world. Himself and Maradona out on their own. Messi could be up there but not yet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zinedine_Zidane

For me Zidane is the most complete footballer of all time.

Yes he is.

No he didnt.

No he isnt.

To be brutally honest, i dont think you know what you mean when you say 'complete'.

[Shaggy]

I'll be telling my Grandkids about that.