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    #16
    Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
    Exactly.

    I mean come on...people go on as though he's some sort of Mr Bean figure at the back, making comical foul-ups every five minutes. He's no Maldini, but (when in-form) his attacking threat negates his defensive deficiencies.


    When someone say x player is ****e, such as Konchesky, they mean ****e by the standards off top class footballers. They'd still be best player in the local park. It's fine margins. Johnson's reputation comes mainly from probably a dozen incidents in a hundred games, but the standards need to be so high.
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      #17
      Originally posted by Mostar View Post
      I guess we'll see if Aurelio will be picked for the next game or not.

      GJ as left back is just not working out (cannot say that I am surprised) so even though Warnock is not really the solution for our LB woes he may be decent option for the remainder of the year.
      Johnson has done nothing wrong there in the last 2 games though. In what way is it not working out? All the times we have been exposed in those 2 games it because the opposition attacked the our right, not our left.
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        #18
        Originally posted by Kenneth
        Well we've covered this before . I think we can agree that in him we have a player who isn't as solid at the back as we would like. Personally, I think he can defend and knows what to do, but makes too many mistakes/poor decisions, especially when faced with a wide player with a bit or trickery. Think this is why it gets most exposed in International football imo.
        Wouldnt disagree. We all know he isnt Maldini, but his real level is nowhere near as bad as some make out.

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          #19
          Originally posted by Kenneth View Post


          When someone say x player is ****e, such as Konchesky, they mean ****e by the standards off top class footballers. They'd still be best player in the local park. It's fine margins. Johnson's reputation comes mainly from probably a dozen incidents in a hundred games, but the standards need to be so high.
          Yeah obviously. But Konchesky is ****e...really ****e. Johnson is a miles better defender than him. People talk about Johnson being a liability and I really don't see it. He's not perfect, he makes some mistakes, but he's not the calamity that is often implied IMO.
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            #20
            Originally posted by Mattshark View Post
            Johnson has done nothing wrong there in the last 2 games though. In what way is it not working out? All the times we have been exposed in those 2 games it because the opposition attacked the our right, not our left.
            I didn't say he did anything wrong but he is struggling to keep the line, looked extremely awkward and uncomfortable defending, positioning wasn't great neither. His offensive skills are very limited on that side as he cannot properly cross with his left foot (one ok cross today) and he is forced to cut in as he cannot hug the left line going forward.

            We were lucky that neither Everton nor Wolves have a proper winger on left as he could have been easily exploited.

            I still think he is much, much better as RB and today's game did show that Kelly should be brought in slowly.
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              #21
              Originally posted by Mostar View Post
              I guess we'll see if Aurelio will be picked for the next game or not.

              GJ as left back is just not working out (cannot say that I am surprised) so even though Warnock is not really the solution for our LB woes he may be decent option for the remainder of the year.
              i am just guessing obviously but it makes a sort of sense to me.

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                #22
                I still can't get that match out of my head when Diouf took Johnson to the cleaners. He ****in ruined him that day.

                Think it was the opening match of the 2003 season. Chelsea won 2-1, Hasslebaink got the winner. I think anyway.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Rudo View Post
                  I still can't get that match out of my head when Diouf took Johnson to the cleaners. He ****in ruined him that day.

                  Think it was the opening match of the 2003 season. Chelsea won 2-1, Hasslebaink got the winner. I think anyway.
                  doubt it, they were only on the pitch together for 18 minutes

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by nbryan1764 View Post
                    doubt it, they were only on the pitch together for 18 minutes

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Rudo View Post
                      I still can't get that match out of my head when Diouf took Johnson to the cleaners. He ****in ruined him that day.

                      Think it was the opening match of the 2003 season. Chelsea won 2-1, Hasslebaink got the winner. I think anyway.
                      I remember the game. Don't think its fair to bring that up though, he was making his debut after a big money move and was only 18/19. Its well known he couldn't cope with the pressure @ Chelsea.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Rudo View Post
                        I still can't get that match out of my head when Diouf took Johnson to the cleaners. He ****in ruined him that day.

                        Think it was the opening match of the 2003 season. Chelsea won 2-1, Hasslebaink got the winner. I think anyway.
                        I was there that day, Diouf was playing very well at the time. But...

                        Originally posted by nbryan1764 View Post
                        doubt it, they were only on the pitch together for 18 minutes
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                          #27
                          Originally posted by nbryan1764 View Post
                          doubt it, they were only on the pitch together for 18 minutes
                          Evidence?

                          Well if it was only 18 minutes, Diouf still ripped Johnson apart.

                          Glen Johnson has always been a liability defensively, and at 26, that won't change.
                          He doesn't have the positional sense, the intelligence and the discipline to be a good DEFENDER.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Daniel Torres View Post
                            I remember the game. Don't think its fair to bring that up though, he was making his debut after a big money move and was only 18/19. Its well known he couldn't cope with the pressure @ Chelsea.


                            If the best example of Johnson being no good is from 8 years ago, i can live with that.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Rudo View Post
                              Evidence?

                              Well if it was only 18 minutes, Diouf still ripped Johnson apart.

                              Glen Johnson has always been a liability defensively, and at 26, that won't change.
                              He doesn't have the positional sense, the intelligence and the discipline to be a good DEFENDER.
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                                #30
                                A few weeks after that Diouf ripped Ashley Cole apart at Anfield. He was on fire at the time.
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