VAR thread

[frank the tank]

They say "we don't want to re-referee games" but it works OK in rugby.

Yesterday, various referees should have got the call to tell them:
- that Gundogan should have had a yellow for blatantly pulling back Rice. This was in the first half and a yellow card for him then would have had to change the way he approached the rest of the match
- that West ham should have had a penalty. Garcia got the ball after the man
- Maguire should have conceded a penalty. It was ****in rediculus....you can't go doing that.
- Fabinho got the ball

****in jokeshop.

Their raison d'etre needs to be getting decisions right. End of.

[Exiled_red]

There has to be some explanation of the decision either the interaction of the officials as it is being made or by one of the officials after it has been made explaining it with the video. Because 3 of the last 4 major VAR calls made against us are baffling even after seeing them dozens of time since. Not explaining them does reputational damage to the game.

[labourRed]

Get ex players involved. These fellas by and large are all mates. There needs to be a separation of power. Theres poor Steve Finnan broke, I'm sure he'd know a good tackle from a foul, better than these ex chicken factory workers.

[frank the tank]

Get ex players involved. These fellas by and large are all mates. There needs to be a separation of power. Theres poor Steve Finnan broke, I'm sure he'd know a good tackle from a foul, better than these ex chicken factory workers.

No. Just mic the cunts up.

Just copy ****in rugby

[Fivex]

There has to be some explanation of the decision either the interaction of the officials as it is being made or by one of the officials after it has been made explaining it with the video. Because 3 of the last 4 major VAR calls made against us are baffling even after seeing them dozens of time since. Not explaining them does reputational damage to the game.

it literally is bringing the game into disrepute

[Slinky Skills]

I was watching the Rugby yesterday and how clear the comms were between the Ref and the VAR officials backstage. I do think there are issues as to why this can't be replicated in football and I think abuse from the crowd is one, as well as the foul language of players surrounding the refs being picked up on live televsion, so I wonder whether these things are potentially impacting VAR in football in general maybe?

As someone has mentioned above, it would be great if everyone could hear the comms between officials, see repeats on screen in stadiums etc so that the correct decisions are being made - this would get fans on-side with Premier League imo.

Some of the decisions have been scary bad so far and I can't see it improving anytime soon.

[Cormack74]

As someone has mentioned above, it would be great if everyone could hear the comms between officials, see repeats on screen in stadiums etc so that the correct decisions are being made - this would get fans on-side with Premier League imo.

They're scared of something but I can't work out what

[Kenneth]

They're scared of transparency, and that is never a good sign. Basically, I think refs feel threatened by the use of VAR, and are in self protection mode. They are desperate to avoid any sense that the on-field ref made a mistake or misjudgement. They're happy for offside or or questions of was it in or outside the box, but anything to do with the interpretation or application of judgement about the rules is off the cards for the VAR ref. It's basically a referee mafia circling to protect what they regard as their interests, or like when the police were responsible for policing themselves.

[Exiled_red]

I think that they should have had allowed a documentary on the behind the scenes of VAR showing the process that is involved so that we the fans but also players, pundits and everyone involved in the game know what is happening, what is possible and what the limitations are because we aren't even sure about that.

It's not a substitute for explaining every decision, but it would help with transparency because at the moment they have effectively told us that this is a magic system that gets decisions right, which clearly it isn't. It's the Brexit of football, it's a cluster ****, we were promised lots of stuff, which isn't accurate, different to what was promised and those in charge are taking no responsibility and we look to be stuck with it.

[Norbs]

They're scared of transparency, and that is never a good sign. Basically, I think refs feel threatened by the use of VAR, and are in self protection mode. They are desperate to avoid any sense that the on-field ref made a mistake or misjudgement. They're happy for offside or or questions of was it in or outside the box, but anything to do with the interpretation or application of judgement about the rules is off the cards for the VAR ref. It's basically a referee mafia circling to protect what they regard as their interests, or like when the police were responsible for policing themselves.

[Norbs]

I think that they should have had allowed a documentary on the behind the scenes of VAR showing the process that is involved so that we the fans but also players, pundits and everyone involved in the game know what is happening, what is possible and what the limitations are because we aren't even sure about that.

It's not a substitute for explaining every decision, but it would help with transparency because at the moment they have effectively told us that this is a magic system that gets decisions right, which clearly it isn't. It's the Brexit of football, it's a cluster ****, we were promised lots of stuff, which isn't accurate, different to what was promised and those in charge are taking no responsibility and we look to be stuck with it.

[Slinky Skills]

They're scared of something but I can't work out what

Mental isn't it, the technology is supposed to be helping things not hindering them.

[baitman]

They're scared of something but I can't work out what

They're worried that someone would recognise Slur Alex's voice

[RedReet]

I think that they should have had allowed a documentary on the behind the scenes of VAR showing the process that is involved so that we the fans but also players, pundits and everyone involved in the game know what is happening, what is possible and what the limitations are because we aren't even sure about that.

It's not a substitute for explaining every decision, but it would help with transparency because at the moment they have effectively told us that this is a magic system that gets decisions right, which clearly it isn't. It's the Brexit of football, it's a cluster ****, we were promised lots of stuff, which isn't accurate, different to what was promised and those in charge are taking no responsibility and we look to be stuck with it.

Not a documentary, but all journos, pundits etc were invited to a walk through and taken to Stockly Park last year

[Zapater]

I don't know if anyone else is watching Roma vs Milan (I doubt it) but the standard of officiating is ridiculously poor. Referee giving penalties, throwing yellow cards around etc. What is the point of having VAR if someone doesn't whisper 'you're being a **** and got every decision in the second half wrong' in his ear?

I really fear for the future of football if the last month or so around the world is anything to go by.