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    Paletta's Problem (BBC)

    Interesting article from their South American Correspondent:



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    Gabriel Paletta's problems at Liverpool should come as no surprise - and should serve as a warning to young South Americans in similar situations.

    Last year this column argued that the Argentine centre back's move from Banfield to Anfield was a case of too much, too soon.

    There is a general rule when a player steps us a level, whether it be from juniors to reserves, from the reserves to the first team or from club to international football.

    Usually he will be OK if he can reproduce the quality of performance he was producing in the lower level.

    The problem in Paletta's case is that this does not apply. He has to learn to defend in a different way.

    Banfield are a traditional but relatively minor Argentine club, who play in tight, cramped stadium.

    They are not under the same pressure to attack as one of the big teams.

    It means that back at home Paletta was defending much closer to his own goal.

    If the ball was played behind him, it was the keeper's. A pair of holding midfielders swept up the danger in front of him.

    However, at Liverpool the defensive line is higher up the field.


    His feeble efforts against Arsenal have prompted speculation over a loan deal to Spanish side Gimnastic

    In a type of football much faster than anything he has seen before he is taking up an unaccustomed position - one which all the while threatens to expose his lack of mobility.

    It is no wonder he has had problems. He has taken a leap which represents a dangerous risk at this stage in his career.

    There was a half way house between Banfield and top-class European football.

    Before Liverpool came in for him, Buenos Aires giants River Plate were very keen on Paletta.

    They were so close to signing him that he was even named in their squad for last year's Copa Libertadores.

    Joining River would have been the perfect move.

    While staying in his own culture he would have learnt much more about how to defend in an attacking team. Make a success of that, and the doors to Europe are open.

    Paletta skipped a stage, and is paying the price.

    It happens with so many South American careers and it is not hard to understand why such mistakes are made.

    From the player's point of view, when the Europeans come knocking it is difficult to refuse, even if the move is premature.

    Football is by its very nature an insecure profession. He might break a leg next month, and the chance may never come again.

    And there are plenty of other forces pushing him across the Atlantic.

    His agent may well be slobbering over a cut of the deal. Or his club might need the revenue to pay last month¿s wage bill. Or his registration could belong to an investment consortium anxious for a quick return.

    Promising young South American players can find themselves surrounded with an excess of financial interests, and a deficiency of good career advice.
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    #2
    I can see no problem apart from the journo.

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      #3
      Originally posted by fredo View Post
      I can see no problem apart from the journo.
      Bang on.
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        #4
        While it's an attack on Paletta, it does raise the question of whether he has come to England too soon?

        Maybe River Plate would have been a better stage for his talents for one so young?
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          #5
          In no way is this an over-reaction after about two games from Palletta. I honestly can't see why people are criticising Paletta so much, he looks like he has communication issues but he has only been here 5 minutes. He is young and inexperienced and even top players need a period of time to adapt.

          Not really sure what the problem is even if we send him on loan. He is a young defender and would benefit from any first team experience. the important think is that he is under the care of a top manager with great experience at bringing through young players and that we own a top young prospect.
          "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
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            #6
            loan deal in spain would be the perfect move, to play every week in top flight is what he needs to adjust...
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              #7
              Originally posted by Cacodemon View Post
              While it's an attack on Paletta, it does raise the question of whether he has come to England too soon?

              Maybe River Plate would have been a better stage for his talents for one so young?
              And why pinpoint on Paletta and not on one of Wenger's kids ?

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                #8
                Originally posted by Cacodemon View Post
                While it's an attack on Paletta, it does raise the question of whether he has come to England too soon?

                Maybe River Plate would have been a better stage for his talents for one so young?
                I think so too.
                Maybe if we had signed him and then loaned him out. I remember them commenting at the time about this, and thining they were right. I guess the same question can now be levelled at our two new young Argentines too.
                Bill shankly to Tommy Smith after he'd turned up for training with a bandaged knee:
                'Take that poof bandage off, and what do you mean YOUR knee, it's LIVERPOOL'S knee !'

                "Sorry, boss, I should have kept my legs together," said Lawrence. "No, Tommy, your mother should have kept her legs together!," replied Shankly.

                * After Tommy Lawrence had let in a fluke goal between his legs

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                  #9
                  Fair point. However, for a journalist Paletta is an easy target.
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by dww View Post
                    In no way is this an over-reaction after about two games from Palletta. I honestly can't see why people are criticising Paletta so much, he looks like he has communication issues but he has only been here 5 minutes. He is young and inexperienced and even top players need a period of time to adapt.

                    Not really sure what the problem is even if we send him on loan. He is a young defender and would benefit from any first team experience. the important think is that he is under the care of a top manager with great experience at bringing through young players and that we own a top young prospect.
                    Im not criticising him at all, I just think some more regular first team experience elsewhere would have been in his best interests. Especially in a role that really cant afford any mistakes because they get punished much worse than elsewhere on the pitch.
                    Bill shankly to Tommy Smith after he'd turned up for training with a bandaged knee:
                    'Take that poof bandage off, and what do you mean YOUR knee, it's LIVERPOOL'S knee !'

                    "Sorry, boss, I should have kept my legs together," said Lawrence. "No, Tommy, your mother should have kept her legs together!," replied Shankly.

                    * After Tommy Lawrence had let in a fluke goal between his legs

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                      #11
                      lets not forget he got no help from either goalie or defenders that night.

                      communication in that back 5 would of been no existant.

                      too young - doubt it as he needs to learn
                      Its times like these we learn to live again FF

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                        #12
                        I'd prefer to make a jugdement on Paletta if/when he plays in a settled back line with first choice players around him.

                        In the way he moves around the pitch he reminds me of Henchoz to a certain degree.
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                          #13
                          He's been here 6 months, not a long time but there seems to have been no improvement from his pre season games, where he made exactly the same mistakes as he did the other night.

                          Its all positioning with Paletta, and his is poor, he cannot seem to read the game.

                          Maybe this will improve, but I just wonder what he's being shown at the moment, as I said, 6 months down the line and no improvement.

                          "If Gerrard continues to play up front, leaving this lack of creativity and intelligence in Midfield, the season WILL be over by Xmas."

                          I still don't think we'll finish in the top 4 this season."

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by bazza76 View Post
                            Im not criticising him at all, I just think some more regular first team experience elsewhere would have been in his best interests. Especially in a role that really cant afford any mistakes because they get punished much worse than elsewhere on the pitch.
                            I can see your point and my comment wasn't really aimed at people replying in this thread. I agree he could do with more experience and I think a loan might be a good move. However I don't think that buying him and bringing him here was necissarily a bad move. If he is ever to play for our team he has to learn English and will have to adapt to the style of defence Rafa wants. The best place to start this learning process is with us.
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by dww View Post
                              In no way is this an over-reaction after about two games from Palletta. I honestly can't see why people are criticising Paletta so much, he looks like he has communication issues but he has only been here 5 minutes. He is young and inexperienced and even top players need a period of time to adapt.

                              Not really sure what the problem is even if we send him on loan. He is a young defender and would benefit from any first team experience. the important think is that he is under the care of a top manager with great experience at bringing through young players and that we own a top young prospect.

                              He is still very young, may not speak English all that well and is one for the future. I hope in a year or so we will see his quality. From what I have seen of him there have been some glimpses of hope/talent along with some shockingly bad moments.


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