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    #46
    Originally posted by friedk View Post
    If we replaced Spurs strikeforce (Defoe, Keane & Berbatov) with ours (Kuyt, Bellers & Crouch), do you think we would be closer to challenging for the title?
    Interesting question. Answer is no. Fairly close in comparison but the Crouch-factor swings it our way.
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      #47
      Originally posted by rhys1989 View Post
      you are classing poor opposition as anyone outside the top four and whats the point of that.
      his 11 league goals have been against

      sheffield, wigan, (2) boro, charlton(3), newcastle, arsenal, fulham (2), everton, west ham.

      comapare that with ronaldo, drogba etc and it wouldnt be much different good players score against the lower teams its what they are supposed to do isnt it??

      The only teams in the top half of the table out of all them are Arsenal and Everton and most of the rest are either relegated or involved in the battle. I would say the majority of goals ARE against poor opposition.

      As I went on to say, it's not neccessarily a bad thing, and the other things he brings to the Spurs team are obviously positive too. But to say he's the most complete striker is going a little too far, to say the least.

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        #48
        Originally posted by Ritchi3 View Post
        The only teams in the top half of the table out of all them are Arsenal and Everton and most of the rest are either relegated or involved in the battle. I would say the majority of goals ARE against poor opposition.

        As I went on to say, it's not neccessarily a bad thing, and the other things he brings to the Spurs team are obviously positive too. But to say he's the most complete striker is going a little too far, to say the least.
        i agree
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          #49
          And he didn't even score against Arsenal in the league. He got two against Boro. Keane and Jenas scored in the league against Arsenal.

          Berbatov has only scored against one team in the top half of the table in league matches - Everton. 7 of his 11 goals have come against bottom five teams.

          As for the claim about chances/goals ratio, from the Premiership stats Kuyt is ahead of Berbatov -

          Kuyt - 12 goals from 44 shots in 2619 minutes
          Berbatov - 11 goals from 45 shots in 2697 minutes

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            #50
            Originally posted by Hollowman View Post
            And he didn't even score against Arsenal in the league. He got two against Boro. Keane and Jenas scored in the league against Arsenal.

            Berbatov has only scored against one team in the top half of the table in league matches - Everton. 7 of his 11 goals have come against bottom five teams.

            As for the claim about chances/goals ratio, from the Premiership stats Kuyt is ahead of Berbatov -

            Kuyt - 12 goals from 44 shots in 2619 minutes
            Berbatov - 11 goals from 45 shots in 2697 minutes




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              #51
              Originally posted by Hollowman View Post
              And he didn't even score against Arsenal in the league. He got two against Boro. Keane and Jenas scored in the league against Arsenal.

              Berbatov has only scored against one team in the top half of the table in league matches - Everton. 7 of his 11 goals have come against bottom five teams.

              As for the claim about chances/goals ratio, from the Premiership stats Kuyt is ahead of Berbatov -

              Kuyt - 12 goals from 44 shots in 2619 minutes
              Berbatov - 11 goals from 45 shots in 2697 minutes



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                #52
                Originally posted by Hollowman View Post
                And he didn't even score against Arsenal in the league. He got two against Boro. Keane and Jenas scored in the league against Arsenal.

                Berbatov has only scored against one team in the top half of the table in league matches - Everton. 7 of his 11 goals have come against bottom five teams.

                As for the claim about chances/goals ratio, from the Premiership stats Kuyt is ahead of Berbatov -

                Kuyt - 12 goals from 44 shots in 2619 minutes
                Berbatov - 11 goals from 45 shots in 2697 minutes

                Nothing like the facts is there?


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                  #53
                  Originally posted by Maestro View Post



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                  Usually I can refrain from sticking my head in this cesspit of swirling turdery, but something about everyone turning into a complete fellater of Berbatov rubs me the wrong way. Nice player and that, but carried away much?

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                    #54
                    Originally posted by Hollowman View Post
                    And he didn't even score against Arsenal in the league. He got two against Boro. Keane and Jenas scored in the league against Arsenal.

                    Berbatov has only scored against one team in the top half of the table in league matches - Everton. 7 of his 11 goals have come against bottom five teams.

                    As for the claim about chances/goals ratio, from the Premiership stats Kuyt is ahead of Berbatov -

                    Kuyt - 12 goals from 44 shots in 2619 minutes
                    Berbatov - 11 goals from 45 shots in 2697 minutes
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                      #55
                      Originally posted by DJS View Post
                      Yeah, and if he was a prolific goalscorer, it'd be great. Sadly he isnt.

                      And dont give me '22 goals this season', the UFAILED Cup doesnt count for much...
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                        #56
                        Originally posted by CAD View Post
                        "Is Dimitar Berbatove currently the most complet striker in the world?"

                        And Jesus said.....what??!?!????

                        Do you even understand the question?

                        I'm guessing no. Your sort don't belong on this forum.

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                          #57
                          Originally posted by Nic83 View Post
                          Is Dimitar Berbatove currently the most complet striker in the world?

                          Is there an offensive attribute he doesn't have?

                          He is brilliant. Strength, pace, touch, vision, passing ability, heading and most importantly - a wide array of finishing, of the highest order.

                          He can create extra time on the ball with his brilliant touch and he has the calmess and ability to pick out a man if the chance isn't there to take it on himself.

                          He is tops.

                          Imagine a strikeforce of Berbatov and Torres with Dirk and Crouchy waiting in the wings
                          Hes nowhere near Eto's class IMO
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                            #58
                            Originally posted by rhys1989 View Post
                            i agree

                            Name another striker that has ALL Berbatovs attributes and to as high a standard as Berbatovs?

                            I can't.

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                              #59
                              Originally posted by Hollowman View Post
                              And he didn't even score against Arsenal in the league. He got two against Boro. Keane and Jenas scored in the league against Arsenal.

                              Berbatov has only scored against one team in the top half of the table in league matches - Everton. 7 of his 11 goals have come against bottom five teams.

                              As for the claim about chances/goals ratio, from the Premiership stats Kuyt is ahead of Berbatov -

                              Kuyt - 12 goals from 44 shots in 2619 minutes
                              Berbatov - 11 goals from 45 shots in 2697 minutes

                              I said chances, not shots.
                              Last edited by Nic83; 08-05-07, 03:04 PM.

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                                #60
                                I would say that Tevez is the most complete striker in the World.

                                Quick, exellent skill, tough, good in the air, excellent finisher and work his socks off in every game.
                                Just believe and you never know what will happen.

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