Is Benitez about to be found out…?

[dww]

A team made up of United/Chelsea/Arsenal/Liverpool would look like this

----------------------------------Cech---------------------------------

Neville------------Carhvalo(Spelling)---------Ferdinand--------------Evra



Gerrard------------Scholes-------------Cesc-------------------Ronaldo



------------------Drogba-------------------Henry----------------------


And even then your leaving out the likes of Essien, Terry, Lampard, Cole Rooney and Robben.

I refuse to accept that Fabregas would be a better choice in that team than Essian, Alonso or Masher. I honestly think that the CMs you would pick from the teams would be down to the style you want to play and that ours compare well with any of th eother teams players.

I think Neville and Finnan are of comparable quality.

Centrebacks should only really be looked at in terms of a pairing and our defensive record suggests ours are pretty good. Without Vidic in the last few seasons Ferdinand has looked below average.

I would agree with the assessment that in terms of attacking creative players and style that Man United and Chelsea are a long way ahead of us. However I think that they both rely on two or three players for that edge. I think with the right purchases we can close the gap as the basic framework of our team and our tactics are very strong.

[dww]

This thread had better stay civil (ish). DB isn't a wum, he's just wrong

I genuinely think both Fergie and Maureen would take Carragher in an instant. Carra and Terry would be the best pairing in the league.

I think they would be a great pairing but you would have to have pacy and defensively aware fullbacks to form a defence better than any of those on offer from the top 4 already. I think Vidic - Carra would be a better combination.

I agree thought that both Jose and Fergie would love to have Carra in their squad and that he would give their current players a real battle for places.

[Rashid]

Rafa is a pragmatic manager, a rich mans Houllier - there is no going away from that fact. The jury is still out on his league form, and he knows it. I also doubt some of the attacking buys he has made, his teams don't seem to score many goals either.

He needs to address those issues asap, that doesn't mean I don't think he is a great manager because he is.

[Rashid]

That team has a soft centre. Of all the players available there is no way id start with that midfield pairing. Cesc wouldnt be near the team for me, not experienced enough. Alonso, Essien, Makelelle, Lampard and MAscherano would all make it in ahead of him.

Team of Arsenal, Chelsea, Man United and Liverpool:

__________Cech________
__Finnan Carvalho Terry Cole_____
___Gerrard Mascherano Essian____
__Ronaldo_________ Rooney_____
_________Drogba______________

[bazza76]

Team of Arsenal, Chelsea, Man United and Liverpool:

__________Cech________
__Finnan Carvalho Terry Cole_____
___Gerrard Mascherano Essian____
__Ronaldo_________ Rooney_____
_________Drogba______________

solid looking team that.
I think id prefer Reina in goal, you just incase it came to penno's

[redblood]

How many of our 1st 11 would make it into United's Chelsea's or arsenal's 1st 11.

Very very few.

In fact you could say Gerrard would be the only definate in the United or Chelsea team.

Finnan Carra Agger Reina.
Alonso Mascherano
Kuyt and as you mentioned Gerrard.
I didn't say we were a complete team and I did say we had imporved our squad
Which we have done, no Smicer, Biscan, Diouf, Diao, Cheyrou etc.
Also we have not had the same funding available to us to build an 11 as strong the others or the length of time.
But what we have acheived with that team is immense and will only get better, the bar has been raised by Chelski and Scum in the last few seasons but we will catch them.

[redblood]

Rafa has set up a team that is very hard to break down away from home, plays with 11 men behind the ball and doesn't concede many on the road.

This style perfectly suits cup comps(hence our success) but comes apart when you have to be more attackminded away from home. As this is where we have really fallen behind in the league. Can Rafa change his ways? Time will tell I guess.

We have alot more than one top class player in our squad but they are not as good as United's or Chelsea's.

Right so Beating Barca 2-1 away and PSV 3-0, doesn't say anything of course, the superbly attack minded Arsenal couldn't beat either of those sides.
Also if you look at the games at the start of the season again you will see attack minded play, of the defeats we had away from home we were way the better side in 80-90% of them but didn't take our chances.

The Manc game we didn't deserve to win and the Derby it could be argued we were unlucky in, but maybe derserved to lose. The rest we played well enough and created more than enough to win each game.

Not taking our chances is down to striking options and we know this is going to be changed this year, as Rafa didn't get all his first choice options last time out.

[DannyMan2006]

I think we could have won the league if we had three strikers as good as those from the treble winning season.

Owen at his peak, Fowler was still lethal and Heskey also produced the goods and was at his bulldozing best. Nicky Barmby on the left or a fit Kewell would have helped too.

Players who come close to their ability are Eto'o and Villa who Rafa tried to sign when he first came to LFC, so he does recognise a top striker.

For all those slating Rafa, who would you like to replace him with. I can't see any better alternatives even if I was crazy and wanted rid of Rafa.

[Morph]

A team made up of United/Chelsea/Arsenal/Liverpool would look like this

----------------------------------Cech---------------------------------

Neville------------Carhvalo(Spelling)---------Ferdinand--------------Evra



Gerrard------------Scholes-------------Cesc-------------------Ronaldo



------------------Drogba-------------------Henry----------------------


And even then your leaving out the likes of Essien, Terry, Lampard, Cole Rooney and Robben.

what the **** is this pile of **** all about

[Red_Polo]

what the **** is this pile of **** all about

Proper cracked me up that

I think people forget when they compile these teams, that they are looking at it in a narrow perspective. Who out of their teams would displace our first choice players? Let's not forget we're talking about 3 top class teams, even on the narrow rationale of number of players picked for the fantasy team on purely individual basis mattering, you'd expect if they were all about the same level we'd only end up with a quarter of our players in the line up. (Sorry for the poor wording, hopefully you know what I'm on about here folks )

In reality it's not like that though, it's a question of what players we have that are good enough for the vision we have for us, for our team. Add 2/3 really quality attacking players and I think we're at the level where nobody could look through the team and say 'not good enough to win the league'. We'd have the personnel for it given those 2/3 players and it would be then down to how we function as a team.

[REDSCOUSER]

I cant be arsed reading the whole 5 pages..i stopped after 1 page..
the original poster is either a manc/chav no matter how hard he is trying to disguise it by using the "We".
Even the most pessimistic ardent RED fan would not put his club down as the WUM did. Listen lad, debate is all good & dandy but dont come here PRETENDING to be one of us when in reality you are a WUM.
Just to humour you and join in the debate, Rafa is one of the best managers in the world. Master tactician that only a few can rival.
Slur dimento alex needed 7 years to win the league. I bet you Rafa will win it next year or the year after. He did make mistakes like any other manager but trust you me he will learn. Away form has to improve & beating the other "big" clubs more often is a must as well. The man admits to all that.
Maureen the **** won it thanks to having a billionare owner, if he was at Newcastle or Citeh he would have finished top 10 no better.
Feed your bull**** somewhere else not here lad or at least admit you are not a LFC supporter this way you will have more respect from us.

[Red_Polo]

I guess 10 days time will tell us everything we need to know.

So if we win you were wrong all along and if we lose you're spot on? Oooookaaayyy

[nbryan1764]

I think he probably is about to be found out








































Found out to be one of the best managers we have ever had

[einar]

Two things.

You cant say his attacking signings have not been good enough and not name players he could have bought instead. We dont know if what he did was the best that could have been done.

And second.

............Reina
Finnan.Carra.Terry.Evra
Ronaldo.Essien.Gerrard.Giggs
..........Henry...Drogba

[badpiggy]

I cant be arsed reading the whole 5 pages..i stopped after 1 page..
the original poster is either a manc/chav no matter how hard he is trying to disguise it by using the "We".
Even the most pessimistic ardent RED fan would not put his club down as the WUM did. Listen lad, debate is all good & dandy but dont come here PRETENDING to be one of us when in reality you are a WUM.
Just to humour you and join in the debate, Rafa is one of the best managers in the world. Master tactician that only a few can rival.
Slur dimento alex needed 7 years to win the league. I bet you Rafa will win it next year or the year after. He did make mistakes like any other manager but trust you me he will learn. Away form has to improve & beating the other "big" clubs more often is a must as well. The man admits to all that.
Maureen the **** won it thanks to having a billionare owner, if he was at Newcastle or Citeh he would have finished top 10 no better.
Feed your bull**** somewhere else not here lad or at least admit you are not a LFC supporter this way you will have more respect from us.

ahh - the voice of reason...