oh dear....

[RedJedi]

5 pages, cant be arsed reading them all but if its true that we have no money then Parry is a liar. Last week he was asked straight out did we have money to buy Rafa's first choices. He said yes.

Im not going to kick off just yet but if this turns out to be true i will be very very pissed off.

[Morten_nogamst_Pedersen]

Nicked this of .no's forum:

Anfieldroad.com

Reports tonight suggest that Liverpool boss Rafael Benítez has been given details of his budget by the club's new owners - and it doesn't make pleasant reading. Rafa lost his cool the morning after the Champions League final when he complained about a lack of urgency from the new owners and the chief executive over both signing new players and getting his core players to commit to new contracts.

He's now going to lose his cool again after being told by the new owners that they are refusing to add any extra funds of their own to the transfer kitty. Rafa's budget will be made up of money from selling players, prize money from the Champions League, money from ticket sales and so on. The same budget as every summer.

Last week we saw Carragher, Gerrard, Alonso and Reina all sign new four and five year deals, and all four spoke of their excitement that the club was moving forward. But Rafael Benítez has been confiding to some about his unhappiness in relation to the way he's being spoken to. Promises of support are all well and good, but Rafa wanted actions not words. He started to get the impression that the likes of Samuel Eto'o and Carlos Tevez were out of reach, and started to get a list together of players costing between £15m and £18m.

Eto'o and Tevez, at their quoted fees, are now definitely out of reach. But even the players in the £15m category seem to be out of reach.I t seems Rafa will have to sell before he can buy. There's no indication of where the extra TV money has gone, nor any explanation as to why the owners are now going against all their hints of supporting the manager in his plans by supplying him with extra money.

The new owners are claiming privately that Rafa is happy with the news he has no money to spend after all. That's quite untrue, Rafa is said to be fuming to put it bluntly. Keep in mind that last summer's purchase of Dirk Kuyt was made possible by David Moores lending the club the money to pay the transfer fee. In effect Liverpool will have less money than last summer, unless the new TV money is handed to Rafa.

These stories are leaking from various directions, all is not well inside Anfield. What hasn't yet been revealed is the excuse that the new owners will use for going back on all they said.

Meanwhile, back across the Atlantic, George Gillett has been speaking to the Montreal Gazette about Liverpool FC. He talks about spending money on the club, but not in the way he was talking about it earlier in the year: "As far back as February, Rafa laid out a program for us," says Gillett. "Each one of our sports businesses has a core concept. You can't just flop around looking at opportunities here and there, go left, go right. It has to be part of an integrated plan. We have one at Liverpool, as we have with the Canadiens, one we understand 100 per cent, believe in and support. The plan involves us spending money, but it will be part of a plan, not just spending like a drunken sailor."

Hang on - we didn't expect money to be spent "like a drunken sailor". We expected Rafa to be supported in his plans - the way we were told he would be during all those high-profile interviews with the US pair. Whatever plans Rafa had, they included buying more players to strengthen the weaker areas of the squad. That costs money, but now the tone is changing. Gillett says: "Hockey and soccer are all about teamwork, and Rafa believes in that very strongly. It's the same in almost all of life - it's about partnership, teamwork and communication. It's not all about money."

From all the leaked reports, "communication" from the US has been nothing short of pathetic. Rafa's patience has been tried repeatedly due to an unwillingness from those above him to communicate. And the statement, "It's not all about money," is indeed true, but for Liverpool fans success is all-important. We've grown used to it ever since Bill Shankly shook the club up in the sixties. The modern game is unfortunately pretty much ruled by money. If it wasn't George and Tom wouldn't be here - they'd not have the same interest to start with, but there wouldn't have been the same need to go looking for investment. We expected investment to include a plan where Rafa, or whoever was managing the club, would be able to invest in his squad every transfer window to ensure we were always at least on a par with our rivals. To get on a par with our rivals though we needed a boost, some extra money to gets us a few steps closer to those ahead of us. Money, plus Rafa's expertise, could bring us the league title we so desperately want. It now seems that the new owners have lied about the money. And if there's one thing Liverpool fans do not like it's being lied to or lied about. Rafa Benítez is much the same.

Liverpool fans were delighted to see the club reach the Champions League final in Athens, but other than the Charity Shield won last August, and the FA Youth Cup won by the youngsters, it's been a trophyless season. Gillett considers it was a successful season: "In all candour, the Gillett and Hicks families have to say we've been pretty lucky to arrive on the scene and enjoy this first-season success," he said. "It's heady and a lot of fun, but it sure would be a mistake for us to try to act like we had anything to do with it. This is the work of David Moores and Rick Parry and Rafa and the players. We were the fortunate beneficiaries of circumstance."

If the stories turn out to be true and the new owners have mislead fans over the amounts of funds Rafa would be given, they might find themselves beneficiaries of something they wouldn't class as fortunate. As they saw in the semi-final of the Champions League at Chelsea, you don't want to get on the wrong side of Liverpool fans.

Perhaps Tom and George would be so good to have a re-think on their plans, or to at least have the decency to tell their new club's supporters the truth. No carefully-chosen words, just honesty.

[friedk]

Here's a crazy thought, I know it's out there and isn't anywhere near as rational of the sightings of Henry all over Liverpool or the fact that our new owners have conned the fans, the manager, the former shareholders and all the players, but bear with me for a second.

Maybe it is not in Liverpool's best interest to make public what money is available to spend.

I know, I know, it's weird and knee jerk, we should splash our budget on every paper and website, Liverpool are ****ed, our new owners are money grabbing thieves, Rafa is leaving and we aren't going to sign anyone ever again, but at least let me dream.

[Dalglish]

Oh for ****'s sake.

Wake me up in August once all this "QUICK! WE HAV TO SPENNND MILLYONS ON BIG NAMES OR WE ARNT WINNIN THE EPL THIS YEAR OR EVA! SACK PARRY!" pish is done.

[Snigger]

Maybe rafa thought "I'm going to have a pretty meaty kitty, so why not lash millions on a young Brazillian who we wouldn't appear to need".

If that's the case, last one at Anfield turn the lights out. If a club can sanction spending 9mil and the manager doesn't know his budget then we may as well all go home, no club is run that badly and Rafa is not going to spend money on players with out doing his home work he's too meticulous for that.

Rafa knows his budget, I doubt it's as much as everyone hopes it will be but I have my doubts over this count - he doesn't appear too confident in his story - for H&G to wave the cash and announce to the world that they have spoken to Rafa, know his plans and are prepared to back them and in fact say there is more available than Rafa has requested would be complete stupidity and stupid is not something I associate with G&H. With Bascombe on the no money bandwagon you have to wonder if this is just a shrews smokescreen by the club. There's wai too much internet ****e flying about and too many people believing it all.

[Reece]

Why isn't this in the speculation forum?

[Dalglish]

It doesnt even fir in there.

Isnt there a forum for "Mindless bleating about things that no-one actually knows about"?

[Resu]

Spending the ladt 25 min reading this thread really made me feel good.
Onwards and upwards.

[Guest]

Reading some of you moaning about such threads is as much as depressing as reading the shower of shiiite being posted by knee jerkers.

[Rashid]

Would that be the same Liverpool fan who is now looking at getting a piece of Arsenal?

Not the same person, the guy buying into Arsenal was part of the DIC consortium but not the main guy at all.

[Dalglish]

Reading some of you moaning about such threads is as much as depressing as reading the shower of shiiite being posted by knee jerkers.

Should try readin your moaning about us moaning posts. They are the worst by far

[Maestro]

Wtf Is This "cheese Cheese Cheese" ****e???

[Guest]

Should try readin your moaning about us moaning posts. They are the worst by far

So don't read the shiiite mate, simple, and don't comment on it because it will be cascading into another shower of ....

[Dalglish]

Some automatic word internet black magic that replaces Smokescree n

[Dalglish]

So don't read the shiiite mate, simple, and don't comment on it because it will be cascading into another shower of ....

And then there's THAT type of post...