Post hillsborough?

[Dave Benson Phillips]

After Hillsborough how bad was the fixture congestion?

Trying to settle an argument with a gooner mate..

I always thought that after Hillsborough Liverpool had to endure a massive fixture pileup which combined with the trauma of the event and the funerals etc meant the players were physically and mentally exhausted

[steveheighwayrobbery]

After Hillsborough how bad was the fixture congestion?

Trying to settle an argument with a gooner mate..

I always thought that after Hillsborough Liverpool had to endure a massive fixture pileup which combined with the trauma of the event and the funerals etc meant the players were physically and mentally exhausted

Welcome by the way but you should not be entering into this debate. Speculation on what might have been tends to disrespect the memory of those who died. I am sure you don't mean it that way but that's how it kind of comes across

[swishtz]

Yes correct i went to every one of those games, league, fa cup semi, fa cup final and i think the run in had a game almost every 2-3 days. Would have to dig out my programmes for exact dates, i remember Forest at Old Traffod, West Ham, Cup Final, Aresnal i think over couple week period at the very least

[mersey86]

I think we played QPR (won 5-1?) the Tuesday before Arsenal on the Friday. The players probably were tired and mentally exhausted. It was a hard way to lose it. But the Kop having the class to applaud Arsenal after the game will always stick with me. The Kop always did have class, but I'd think by then they knew there were worse things in life than losing the league title.

[nbryan1764]

I think we played QPR (won 5-1?) the Tuesday before Arsenal on the Friday. The players probably were tired and mentally exhausted. It was a hard way to lose it. But the Kop having the class to applaud Arsenal after the game will always stick with me. The Kop always did have class, but I'd think by then they knew there were worse things in life than losing the league title.

we beat west ham 5-1 the tuesday after we won the cup. It was a bit manic but I think given what had happened most people assiciated with us wanted us to win the cup. It would have been superhuman to win the double but it wasnt to be. Ironically if we hdnt given away a consolation against west ham in a dominant performance then we would have won the league too!

[Red_Al_77]

Welcome by the way but you should not be entering into this debate. Speculation on what might have been tends to disrespect the memory of those who died. I am sure you don't mean it that way but that's how it kind of comes across

It doesn't come across like that at all IMO. Total overreaction. Can't see how he is disrespecting those that died in any way. He is asking a football related question, nothing more nothing less. He is not speculating as to the causes.

There is a tendency to shy away from anything related to Hillsborough as if it's a taboo subject. Perhaps if it was discussed in greater detail over the years then we wouldn't have the situation that exists where many Liverpool fans are ignorant of the subject.

[steveheighwayrobbery]

It doesn't come across like that at all IMO. Total overreaction. Can't see how he is disrespecting those that died in any way. He is asking a football related question, nothing more nothing less. He is not speculating as to the causes.

There is a tendency to shy away from anything related to Hillsborough as if it's a taboo subject. Perhaps if it was discussed in greater detail over the years then we wouldn't have the situation that exists where many Liverpool fans are ignorant of the subject.

Fair enough Al if that is your take. As you imply the subject of Hillsborough is an emotive subject. Frankly I don't have any desire to discuss the fact that as a consequence of 96 people losing thier lives we lost the league. That level of detail is irrelevant when you way it up against the human consequence of the tragedy. However if others do our country provides such freedom and I would not seek to change that. In this respect I am not flaming the messanger, just the message.

[Helios Creed]

After Hillsborough how bad was the fixture congestion?

Trying to settle an argument with a gooner mate..

I always thought that after Hillsborough Liverpool had to endure a massive fixture pileup which combined with the trauma of the event and the funerals etc meant the players were physically and mentally exhausted

something like 7 games in 20 days wasn't it? I've been trying to explain to Gooners for years that their celebrations were akin to a boxer celebrating a victory over an opponent whose father had died the day before the fight and that the amount of games that we had to play were a travesty, but they don't seem to understand the cruelty of it on top of what had already happened that season.

[swishtz]

That season they won it fair and square, end of...

[Neil Young]

we beat west ham 5-1 the tuesday after we won the cup. It was a bit manic but I think given what had happened most people assiciated with us wanted us to win the cup. It would have been superhuman to win the double but it wasnt to be. Ironically if we hdnt given away a consolation against west ham in a dominant performance then we would have won the league too!

I remember thinking at the time that giving away that goal could cause problems. Of course it was just one goal out of many but it seemed so unnecessary.

[JRC]

Leroy Rosenior, if I'm not mistaken; the man whose goal won Arsenal the title.

I don't mindthe question, and there is a legitimate football story about that whole end of season - but it does irritate me when the Thomas goal/Arsenal win/our defeat is celebrated (Fever Pitch, Bitter Blues etc) without being put in the whoe post-Hillsborough context. I can honestly say I've never been rprouder of my team in defeat, nor less traumatised by losing so dramatically - how could you see a scrappy late goal as a tragedy barely 6 weeks after seeing people die?

The football story - we hunted Arsenal down post-Christmas from several points behind, and went into that game ahead in the league for about the first time. Whilst we had played a 2-hour emotionally-charged final in extreme temperatures on the notoriously draining Wembley pitch on the Saturday, then battered West Ham on the Tuesday, I believe Arsenal had not played for 2 weeks - although famously, they had earlier postponed a couple of games because of Hillsborough emotions; coincidentally at a time when leading scorer Alan Smith was struggling with an injury.

By the time Thomas scored - and it was a marvelously disciplined performance from Arsenal, no mistake - we were out on our feet. That we ran it so close was a magnificent effort. That Graham won Manager of the Year (5 minutes away from winnig nothing) instead of Dalglish (5 minutes away from the most remarkable Double, despite, as we were to find out, breaking himself in supporting the victims families) was a ludicrous decision.

[Abdul Alhazred]

By the time Thomas scored - and it was a marvelously disciplined performance from Arsenal, no mistake - we were out on our feet. That we ran it so close was a magnificent effort. That Graham won Manager of the Year (5 minutes away from winnig nothing) instead of Dalglish (5 minutes away from the most remarkable Double, despite, as we were to find out, breaking himself in supporting the victims families) was a ludicrous decision.

[livvy145]

Here are the fixtures after Hillsborough.

[magicalbarnes]

It doesn't come across like that at all IMO. Total overreaction. Can't see how he is disrespecting those that died in any way. He is asking a football related question, nothing more nothing less. He is not speculating as to the causes.

There is a tendency to shy away from anything related to Hillsborough as if it's a taboo subject. Perhaps if it was discussed in greater detail over the years then we wouldn't have the situation that exists where many Liverpool fans are ignorant of the subject.