the digler

[Shaggy]

No way Shaggy, Crouch is much weaker then Adebayor and a lot slower too and he worse in the air...anyway it looks like the no1 partnership for the gooners will be Van Perise ( i think he's going to have a brilliant season) and Da Silva followed closely by Bendtner and then Adebayor

Regardless of all that, Crouch is much better than Adebayor.

[JPK]

[QUOTE=ShaggyAlonso;605446]I'm not joking.

In case it had escaped your attention, Crouch works best in a "crisp attacking team", rather than having long punts aimed in his direction. Adebayor is about 6' 5", a similar 'sort' to Crouch.[/QUOTE

[Shaggy]

[QUOTE=PostmanPat;605450]

I'm not joking.

In case it had escaped your attention, Crouch works best in a "crisp attacking team", rather than having long punts aimed in his direction. Adebayor is about 6' 5", a similar 'sort' to Crouch.[/QUOTE

I bet you were pissing your pants when Crouch scored that hat-trick against Arsenal.

[Pablo]

Its all kicking off this morning isnt it!

[Imy]

Its all kicking off this morning isnt it!

It makes Monday morning go quicker so i'm with that.

[JPK]

[QUOTE=ShaggyAlonso;605452]

I bet you were pissing your pants when Crouch scored that hat-trick against Arsenal.

It was the perfect hat trick for sure but him and "crisp attacking football" hardly go hand in hand.If Crouch played to a level near that(i'm not saying weekly hat tricks) weekly then he would be a very good player.He does'nt though.Baptista scored 4 at Anfield this year.Does'nt mean he is the worlds best.

[Neil Young]

The problem isn't down to individuals but more on how Rafa has in mind as to how we should play away from home. That team last night was too cagey, conventional to succeed in the premiership. It surely will be good enough for an away European tie but certainly not in the premiership. We would have been ****ted if we were facing Villa instead of Feyenoord last night, just my opinion.

We should stop picking on individuals as we have the players to really challenge. The sticking point is how Rafa see them playing as a unit. Playing Torres on the right wing, with Kuyt behind Voronin and running like a headless chicken isn't a solution. Football should not be Rocket science FFS.

So let's not pick on individuals, let's pick on Rafa.

Who knows why he put Torres on the wing? Maybe he was experimenting. It was a pre-season friendly after all.

[carheex]

Simply put - he doesn't score enough.

I'm willing to give him more time though. Hopefully he will blossom alongside Torres.

As you say you cannot fault his workrate.

He's the new Heskey!

[Shaggy]

[QUOTE=PostmanPat;605459]

It was the perfect hat trick for sure but him and "crisp attacking football" hardly go hand in hand.If Crouch played to a level near that(i'm not saying weekly hat tricks) weekly then he would be a very good player.He does'nt though.Baptista scored 4 at Anfield this year.Does'nt mean he is the worlds best.

Crouch IS a very good player.

Baptista didn't score 18 goals for his club last season and he didn't score about half a dozen for his country. He also wasn't the 2nd top scorer in the Champions League.

[Pablo]

It makes Monday morning go quicker so i'm with that.

It does mate, the last hour has flown by so its all good for me, not sure my boss is too impressed with my productivity though

[Neil Young]

[QUOTE=ShaggyAlonso;605462]

Crouch IS a very good player.

Baptista didn't score 18 goals for his club last season and he didn't score about half a dozen for his country. He also wasn't the 2nd top scorer in the Champions League.

But they both move like robots.

[MrMichael]

Mr M, carra is a centre back where skill is not the main attribute needed, its hard work, game intelligence and balls (Carra has two groins!)

Up front hard work is needed but nowadays pace, trickery, skill, guile are also needed which (so far) Kuyt has not shown too much off.

I'd have thought that was obvious.

One is a striker and the other is a centre-back.

Hang on, "we all dream of a team of Carraghers" remember?

Seriously, I don't think its a simple as that. Obviously the different positions require different attributes, and they blatantly have different attributes, but the character of a top-level footballer is, for me, as important as their skill, and it is because of his character that I believe his already not inconsiderable footballing ability will continue to improve, and improve the side

The comparisson made earlier in this thread between Kuyt and Mark Hughes could be a very astute one. I think Kuyt and Torres could form one hell of a partnership given faith, and decent supply.

[carheex]

It was his first season so an improvement may well come (same goes for Berbatov).

Or he could be like Alonso and go desperately downhill after his first season to an extent that he doesn't even warrant a place on the bench.

[JPK]

[QUOTE=ShaggyAlonso;605462]

Crouch IS a very good player.

Baptista didn't score 18 goals for his club last season and he didn't score about half a dozen for his country. He also wasn't the 2nd top scorer in the Champions League.

Crouch is NOT BAD.

[tomasjj]

Disagree mate. Hard work doesn't win you games. Hard work won't score you goals. Hard work should be a given and I expect it from everyone.

Oh, if you only knew how wrong you were.



Rafa would shaft you and send you to the ressies along with LeTallec for that statement.