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    I don’t think Owen will return because of one major issue - Rafa's rotation policy.

    Everyone knows Owen needs about 4 or 5 games after returning from injury to find his scoring boots and considering Rafa never usually plays the same strikers for 2 consecutive games its could be a major problem.

    Whilst I admit Owen is a good striker I cannot see him returning whilst Rafa is in charge.
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      Originally posted by DeeGame View Post
      I don’t think Owen will return because of one major issue - Rafa's rotation policy.

      Everyone knows Owen needs about 4 or 5 games after returning from injury to find his scoring boots and considering Rafa never usually plays the same strikers for 2 consecutive games its could be a major problem.

      Whilst I admit Owen is a good striker I cannot see him returning whilst Rafa is in charge.
      yup, rotation would be a nightmare for Owen.


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        Originally posted by DeeGame View Post
        I don’t think Owen will return because of one major issue - Rafa's rotation policy.

        Everyone knows Owen needs about 4 or 5 games after returning from injury to find his scoring boots and considering Rafa never usually plays the same strikers for 2 consecutive games its could be a major problem.

        Whilst I admit Owen is a good striker I cannot see him returning whilst Rafa is in charge.
        The Newcastle experience isn't quite like that though - as soon as he gets playing he scores fairly regularly. I think there is a slight myth here - I suspect Owen scores fine after injuries but the rest of his play suffers badly.

        I think that rotation would probably help prolong Owens career and, as we have seen with Torres, Rafa is quite willing to rotate a favoured striker less if they are successful. The questions for me would be a/does Rafa feel he can get a good number of games out of him a season, in which he contributes what Rafa wants to the team and b/ would Owen accept the rotation policy.

        I think depending on wages for £6m he could very well be worth a gamble.
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          he was rotated at Madrid and still scored 16 goals or so. Not sure that would be an issue

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            I heard a little insight into his career and his priorities while watching the Estonia game..............in the past year (dont hold me to the time scale it might have been 2 years) Owen has played for England 16 times

            For Newcastle during the same time frame he has played....................16 times


            I am not saying this is a good or a bad thing but it gives you an idea where Owen's priorities lie
            Lawrenson:"Well thats 3 good chances they have had in the first 3 minutes of this half"

            Motson:"" Yes Mark, you could almost say that they have had 3 chances in as many minutes"

            Lawrenson: Errr I thought I just did say that, John"

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              Anyone who says we shouldn't be after Owen at £6m is living in a dream world. He's clearly worth at least twice that.
              He's in a different class to Voronin, Kuyt and Crouch and is a better finisher than Torres. We are still short of pace upfront when Torres doesn't play and we should bang a bid in for him asap.
              As for his injuries, most of his recent ones have been pure bad luck. Players like Owen are always going to be a bit injury prone but that would be lessened at LFC due to Rafa;s rotation policy.

              Its time for Michael to come home.
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                Originally posted by Sir Bob View Post
                Anyone who says we shouldn't be after Owen at £6m is living in a dream world. He's clearly worth at least twice that.
                He's in a different class to Voronin, Kuyt and Crouch and is a better finisher than Torres. We are still short of pace upfront when Torres doesn't play and we should bang a bid in for him asap.
                As for his injuries, most of his recent ones have been pure bad luck. Players like Owen are always going to be a bit injury prone but that would be lessened at LFC due to Rafa;s rotation policy.

                Its time for Michael to come home.
                I don't think anyone doubts Owen's credentials but there is no getting away from the fact that he is even more injury prone than when he was a Liverpool player. If we are to believe that he has a buyout clause of £6 mil then we would be stupid not at least consider a move but I would be very dubious as to whether Owen could hack the pace of a full season banging goals in for us.

                I don't think we should look back only forward so IMO I would look at different options to Owen.
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                  Originally posted by DeeGame View Post
                  I don’t think Owen will return because of one major issue - Rafa's rotation policy.

                  Everyone knows Owen needs about 4 or 5 games after returning from injury to find his scoring boots and considering Rafa never usually plays the same strikers for 2 consecutive games its could be a major problem.

                  Whilst I admit Owen is a good striker I cannot see him returning whilst Rafa is in charge.
                  IMHO Rotation is the only way Owen will get a reasonable return on the rest of his career. If nothing else his time at Madrid proved this, where scored more goals per minutes than any other player that season, and didn't get a single injury.

                  If he has any sense he will adapt to rotation. Whether Rafa actually wants him or not is another question entirely. I'd have him for £6m and rotate him with Torres as I don't see them playing particularly well together, but Rafa may know differently...
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                    Originally posted by DeeGame View Post
                    I don’t think Owen will return because of one major issue - Rafa's rotation policy.

                    Everyone knows Owen needs about 4 or 5 games after returning from injury to find his scoring boots and considering Rafa never usually plays the same strikers for 2 consecutive games its could be a major problem.

                    Whilst I admit Owen is a good striker I cannot see him returning whilst Rafa is in charge.
                    don't buy the owen needs 4 or 5 games following an injury - lets not forget he was probably played too early with Ged as we had no one else and no other game plan.

                    Owen was relied to chase balls over the top of defenders whereas at Madrid and barcodes he's scored trhe poacher type goals.
                    For his size how many headers has he scored say compared to Crouch

                    And without people knowing what went on all this judas stuff is ****e.

                    Likewise the england stuff every player want to play for thier country end off, read Fowler auto biog and you'll see how important it is to him.

                    Owen would provide us with the goals we need end off.

                    Lets not forget Owen and Stevie have looked very good for England


                    No brainer - 6m is nothing for a player who can score

                    also the injuries - RvN was out for a year. There is every likley that Owen could be injury free from now on and especially in a team where he'll be rotated.
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                      Originally posted by redlancer View Post
                      don't buy the owen needs 4 or 5 games following an injury - lets not forget he was probably played too early with Ged as we had no one else and no other game plan.

                      Owen was relied to chase balls over the top of defenders whereas at Madrid and barcodes he's scored trhe poacher type goals.
                      For his size how many headers has he scored say compared to Crouch

                      And without people knowing what went on all this judas stuff is ****e.

                      Likewise the england stuff every player want to play for thier country end off, read Fowler auto biog and you'll see how important it is to him.

                      Owen would provide us with the goals we need end off.

                      Lets not forget Owen and Stevie have looked very good for England


                      No brainer - 6m is nothing for a player who can score

                      also the injuries - RvN was out for a year. There is every likley that Owen could be injury free from now on and especially in a team where he'll be rotated.
                      Spot on.

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                        interesting to see nobody has sugested going after him in january......

                        7.5 million wold buy him then imo

                        wouldnt be cuptied for europe would he???????????????
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                          Originally posted by Parm View Post
                          umm yes! why on earth would you waste money on a player who is injured all the time?
                          Until recently I was absolutely against re-signing Owen.

                          If you look beyond the loyalty issues, Owen would have cost £9 million in the summer. Considering we sold him for £8 million, that would be bad business to start with. On top of that, it would be negligent to risk £9 million on a player with his injury record. £9 million should buy you a first-team regular to start most games. Owen doesn't start most games.

                          If the speculation is true that his contract is worth £6 million next summer, this makes the prospect a lot more tempting. Nowadays £6 million is not an unreasonable amount for a top club to spend on a squad player. It would suit him because he wouldn't face the physical demands of a first-choice player and he could still play an important role coming off the bench. It would suit us because we get a top-class goalscorer who we don't have to depend on.
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                            Lots of pros and cons but at £6m you will not spend better money

                            As for him not accepting rotation, I think he'd accept rotation at West Ham to get out of Newcastle so this wouldn't be an issue - I think not being the sole focal point of our team and being rested regularly would help prolong his career & I think it would give him a lift to be back at Anfield

                            All it will take for the harshest critics to jump on the bandwagon is a winner against the Scum, Chavs or Arsenal and everyone would be delighted he's come "home"

                            Hypothetically of course
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                              Yep, I'm all for Owen returning, and £6m would be a bargain.

                              Not so sure Rafa would bother though, but if Crouch is to leave wanting regular first team action, and we get a good price for him, then yeah, let's get him back.

                              If he can prove his fitness this season then he'd be a great addition. He'd have to be happy with the rotation policy of Rafa's, mind! Would probably get the best out of him too if he was rested every now and then!

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                                Originally posted by redlancer View Post
                                also the injuries - RvN was out for a year. There is every likley that Owen could be injury free from now on and especially in a team where he'll be rotated.
                                Van Nistelrooij had 1 big injuy which he recovered from, and has been pretty much injury free ever since. Owen has had injury after injury after injury - there is a massive difference.

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