The bottom line

[Rocket]

A Torres instead of a Kuyt for example.

a kuyt and a bellamy almost make a Torres.

it's all about choices

[Revo]

a kuyt and a bellamy almost make a Torres.

it's all about choices

one went and the other wont be far behind him. until that happens, kuyt needs backing

[red g]

a kuyt and a bellamy almost make a Torres.

it's all about choices

but if we only bought 1 player instead of 2 whatabout if said 1 player got injured?

[Dhav]

a kuyt and a bellamy almost make a Torres.

it's all about choices

Fair enough, we can always argue the quantity v quality point but unfortunately when you see the absolute dross he was left with, and the fact he had to basically rebuild the whole squad save for 6-7 players, on a limited budget to boot, if he went out and only bought the quality players without the squad filler of a Kuyt or a Pennant, I think he could have run the risk of having a threadbare squad, where one or two injuries could have seriously ****ed us up.

[Rocket]

but if we only bought 1 player instead of 2 whatabout if said 1 player got injured?

i know that fella, but for the past 5-10 years, we've been guilty of buying too many squad players,and not enough first choice starters.

[red g]

i know that fella, but for the past 5-10 years, we've been guilty of buying too many squad players,and not enough first choice starters.

whilst i fully agree......but what can you do? we cant afford first teamers....or the gambles have not paid off!!

santacruz, mccarthy, laursen even players like jay jay would and could have been a success for next to nothin

i think the money has just not been spent wisely.

[red g]

i know that fella, but for the past 5-10 years, we've been guilty of buying too many squad players,and not enough first choice starters.

also another point......We are a Top 4 team, hence we will play a lot more games than many others. so we need a bigger squad which obviously means we cant afford as many first teamers.

[Rocket]

also another point......We are a Top 4 team, hence we will play a lot more games than many others. so we need a bigger squad which obviously means we cant afford as many first teamers.

i know fella, i don't think it's always been intentional, i think it just boils down to some poor transfers

i'm not sure the answer, but for example, what is more likely to help us win the league

Yossi + Pennant = approx 12 million

12 million midfielder + keep Smicer

That is a total hypothetical example, because i couldn't think of another midfielder we've let go.

[Jazzmaster]

i know fella, i don't think it's always been intentional, i think it just boils down to some poor transfers

i'm not sure the answer, but for example, what is more likely to help us win the league

Yossi + Pennant = approx 12 million

12 million midfielder + keep Smicer

That is a total hypothetical example, because i couldn't think of another midfielder we've let go.

good point

[red g]

i know fella, i don't think it's always been intentional, i think it just boils down to some poor transfers

i'm not sure the answer, but for example, what is more likely to help us win the league

Yossi + Pennant = approx 12 million

12 million midfielder + keep Smicer

That is a total hypothetical example, because i couldn't think of another midfielder we've let go.

fair point and iun hindsight i would agree that we would have been better buying big and keeping a stronger first 11 like Scum, chelsea and the arse

after all they were good enough to win us a champs league!

[alunevans]

Irrespective of the owners, if Rafa can't deliver he has to go.

How can it be irrespective of owners? That's just daft.

Surely you have to compare Rafa with the replacement.

What if the owners had a shortlist of Ian Dowie, Neil Warnock and Sam Allardyce?

Would you still say Rafa out.

And if you think that's far fetched well every one of them has more managerial experience than the guy we nearly ended up with.

Rafa must stay, unless you think he's so bad that you'll have ANYONE but him. And you can't think he's THAT bad.

Do you really trust these two to select a world class manager. Or a yes man.

[alunevans]

And you'd trust these pair of clowns to appoint the right replacement? ffs they wanted Klinsmann!

[Monty]

Great post Al, 100% agree. We need to get behind 'our own' at times like this and show him our support.

[alunevans]

Great post Al, 100% agree. We need to get behind 'our own' at times like this and show him our support.

I've been vocal in my critique of tic tacs and selections, but as you say we need to get behind our own, and Rafa has earned my loyalty while them pair of ****s have fed us nothing but lies.

These are special circumstances for Liverpool Football Club, and for me any thought of Rafa moving on while they are in situ is out of bounds now.

There is a wider battle to be played out.

[AFII]

i know that fella, but for the past 5-10 years, we've been guilty of buying too many squad players,and not enough first choice starters.

We have built more to be sure of a CL place than to gamble and sign three quality players that may have made us title challengers. It was a good choice if you consider that we needed the CL money to be able to afford any players at all.

It's now Rafa can change that policy and he has done that, Torres and Babel are two good examples of that, if the owners allows him to do that.

It will be quality over quantity from now on IMO.