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    Martin Samuel

    From The Times
    January 16, 2008
    Hope in your heart? Not when axe falls on Rafael Benitez
    Martin Samuel

    As revolutions go, the one conducted by Captain Valentine Strasser in Sierra Leone in 1992 was pretty damn funky. After he seized control from the 23-year dictatorship of the All People Congress led by Major General Joseph Momoh, Strasser intended to make the disco classic Ain’t No Stopping Us Now by McFadden and Whitehead the new national anthem.

    You do that sort of thing when you are 25 and the youngest head of state in the world. It’s a bit like getting your best mate to be your deputy, which Strasser did, too. The regime lasted about four years. Strasser’s party, the National Provisional Ruling Council, proved no more adept at dealing with guerrillas from the Revolutionary United Front than the previous government and large swaths of the country, including the crucial diamond reserves, fell into enemy hands.

    Strasser also developed a penchant for executing opponents – 26 of them after trial – and even though he was deposed more than a decade ago, many, including Amnesty International, want him brought to justice for alleged crimes ranging from torture to arbitrary killing. He is relatively harmless now and has more recently been found living back home with his mum. He recently claimed to have been beaten up outside a London Tube station in a racially motivated attack.

    What unfolded at Liverpool these past three years has not, of course, been a revolution but a Rafalution, yet has followed much the same path. It was launched to a trumpet blast of unshakeable optimism, looked at first to have swept away the canker of a failing old regime and is surely destined to end in chaos, with blood up the walls.

    Liverpool’s lurch from champions of Europe to Hicksville, USA, is another chapter in the book called “How Not to Run a Football Club”, which started off as a slender paperback but must now stretch to the size of a full set of Encyclopaedia Britannica. It contains volumes on Leicester City, Coventry City, both Sheffield clubs, large stretches of Wales, East Anglia, South London, Kent and the South Coast, plus dear old Newcastle United, Leeds United and what remains of Luton Town. Liverpool is a tentative addition, but under the present ownership it will surely one day get a sizeable entry of its own.

    The departure of Rafael BenÍtez appears no longer a matter of if, but when, his only hope of survival being that the owners, Tom Hicks and George Gillett Jr, beat him to the door. And if BenÍtez goes, the club goes with him. Not the name or the history; there will still be a Liverpool Football Club and they will still play in red at Anfield, in the short term at least. But the philosophy that has defined the past four seasons, the way the club has been managed, the squad that has been constructed, the methods on which a fifth European Cup win, and almost a sixth, were built, would all have to be redesigned.

    Liverpool are showing what can happen if the Arsène Wenger battle plan is allowed to go off at halfcock. It is a mess and it could set the club back years.

    The board at Arsenal has had two brilliant ideas in the past 12 years. The first was to appoint Wenger, the second to empower him for far longer than the average managerial lifespan. If a man is being allowed to restructure a club from the foundations up, it’s always sensible to bow to his vision, otherwise what is the point?

    The key to success at Arsenal was that, having given Wenger a form of executive power that far exceeded his status as an employee, the directors did not fear that he would abuse his freedom. Wenger tore down what Arsenal was and created something new based on his philosophies. Had he been blocked at any turn it could have been disastrous. At the height of his revolution when his captain was French and all his best players were French, Manchester Untied remained in the ascendancy and there were occasional rumours that Englishmen at Arsenal felt neglected or ostracised, there must have been a small temptation to reclaim some control. There would surely have been whispers in the boardroom, fledgeling conspiracies to curtail his transfer policy, his vision of a cosmopolitan academy, to return Arsenal to its preFrancophile traditions.

    If there was, it was never realised. To oppose Wenger would be to risk losing him and the directors sensibly accepted that this could precipitate a departure of half the first-team squad and the destruction of all the club had become. So the board continued to back the manager as he restructured the training ground and even allowed him a measure of control over the new stadium, although he met them halfway by agreeing to it in the first place.

    And now the vision nears completion. The first team at Arsenal is still a melting pot of nationalities, but the next generation of Arsenal youth players are exciting and largely home-grown. It has taken more than a decade and even when Wenger leaves, his values will endure. It will be expected that Arsenal retain a level of creative flair; players who possess that talent will be appreciated there. He has changed the culture of a football club; more importantly, he was encouraged to do so.

    A catastrophe is brewing at Liverpool because the club, having given BenÍtez his head for the best part of four seasons, is about to switch riders midway through the race. If BenÍtez is forced out now, he takes modern Liverpool with him and leaves a crumbling shell. He is the glue that keeps the club together and, without him, it will have to be rebuilt.

    He has been permitted to turn Liverpool into a Spanish colony that without him will not make sense. Just as Arsenal’s squad owed its shape and character to Wenger, so a number of significant players at Liverpool would be lost without BenÍtez. Take Javier Mascherano. Does anybody seriously believe that after the laughable way he was treated at West Ham United, he would have remained a second longer in Premier League football had it not been for a coach who could communicate in his mother tongue?

    A natural parting of the ways is looming and it begins the moment BenÍtez hits the road. The biggest clubs in Spain would certainly make Fernando Torres a target as well as just about any of BenÍtez’s imports from his homeland, not least Xabi Alonso, Jos� Manuel Reina and �lvaro Arbeloa. The nucleus of Liverpool’s first team would be under threat because BenÍtez had been allowed to exercise his personality so thoroughly.

    Hicks and Gillett have to appreciate what is at stake. It could be argued that the equally mesmeric Jos� Mourinho left Chelsea and the ship sailed on, but Mourinho’s personnel were not as plainly rooted in national identity. He imported two defenders from Portugal, Paulo Ferreira and Ricardo Carvalho, one of whom was not always in his best team. His backroom staff were loyalists, but his assistant coach was a longstanding club servant, Steve Clarke.

    Mourinho’s greatest influence was on the pitch, with his pattern of play. For all his pride in his native land, the red and green of Portugal never flew over Stamford Bridge. BenÍtez is different. He has placed Liverpool under Spanish influence, the way Wenger made Arsenal a French club according to players such as Tony Adams, and that is increasingly the modern way.

    It is not just the first team at Liverpool that has been overhauled by BenÍtez. His head of scouting, Eduardo Macia, has worked hard at attracting 20 or so of the best young players from abroad to Liverpool’s academy, a mid-range investment that it was hoped would insulate the club against stagnation while the new ground was developed.

    What will happen to that plan if its mastermind departs? Indeed, what was going to happen had Hicks got his man in J�rgen Klinsmann? Liverpool were still unbeaten in the Premier League when Liverpool’s owner made contact, yet would he have let the Germans take over this Spanish resort, just as an Iberian culture under BenÍtez had replaced the French influence of G�rard Houllier (in his first season, much of the dead wood removed by BenÍtez consisted of French or French-speaking players introduced by Houllier but barely used), each change beginning with the wholesale rejection of the last.

    Every managerial alteration brings upheaval – Roy Hodgson at Fulham is struggling to get to grips with the weaknesses caused by the transfer policies of Lawrie Sanchez – but to lose the vital presence in a revolution as substantial as that taking place at Anfield is to risk a directionless mess.

    With clubs such as Manchester City and Aston Villa at last finding their feet under capable managers in Sven-G�ran Eriksson and Martin O’Neill, to have their club’s rationale inviting comparison with the military juntas of Sierra Leone is something that Liverpool’s owners can ill-afford.

    #2
    Oliver Kay

    From The Times
    January 16, 2008
    Liverpool could pay heavy price for Tom Hicks shooting from the hip
    Oliver Kay

    There has been a sense of dismay at Anfield since Tom Hicks, the Liverpool co-owner, said that he tried to line up J�rgen Klinsmann as manager, a slip of the tongue that may have financial repercussions for the club if, or more likely, when the time comes to part company with Rafael BenÍtez and to negotiate a settlement on his contract.

    The Spaniard intends to fight on as manager, but with his position at the club weakened by Hicks’s remarkably frank admission about the unsuccessful move for Klinsmann, leading sports lawyers suggested yesterday that BenÍtez would be entitled to resign and pursue a claim for constructive or wrongful dismissal if he wished. While he has no intention of dragging the club through the courts at present – and has not abandoned hope of staying in the job – BenÍtez is understood to be aware that he would have a strong case if Hicks and George Gillett Jr, the other co-owner, refused to pay at least £5 million in accordance with a compensation clause in his contract, which runs until June 2010.

    “This is classic constructive dismissal,” Peter Coyle, senior partner of Coyle White Devine, a firm of solicitors specialising in sport and dispute litigation, said. “If you effectively advertise someone’s position while they are still in it, that undermines the mutual trust that underpins any employment contract. I am certain things go on behind the scenes at football clubs all the time, but the fact that it has been made public makes it a different scenario because it undermines the manager.”

    Hicks defended the approach to Klinsmann, who has chosen to take charge of Bayern Munich next season, by saying that it was merely “an insurance policy” in case BenÍtez left the club, but that argument would not be guaranteed to stand up in court.

    “That doesn’t work for me,” Coyle said. “You insure yourself against things that aren’t within your control. Yes, there were reasons why he [BenÍtez] could have chosen to leave, but why would he do that? Whether he stays or goes is ultimately at the whim of the two owners of the club.”

    Richard Linskell, an employment partner with Dawsons Solicitors, said: “Certainly I would say he [Hicks] was not well-advised. He may well, of course, have an American approach to employment law; in America they have what is called employment-at-will and they can say what they like and dismiss people without any repercussions. He may be coming from a legal system where he can say that sort of thing without fear of legal consequences. I couldn’t really say whether he has even thought about the issue or whether he has just shot from the hip, as people in that sort of position often do.”

    The word from Anfield before last night’s FA Cup third-round replay at home to Luton Town was that Hicks had not intended to undermine BenÍtez, at a time when relations and communication had appeared to be improving, but there is a feeling from some within the club that the Texan’s comments have undermined the manager in the eyes of his players.

    Whatever the long-term impact of Hicks’s comments, they have prompted an angry backlash from Liverpool supporters and from one of the club’s most eminent former players. Kenny Dalglish, who excelled for Liverpool as player and manager, said: “It certainly does no one any favours whatsoever. It affects the players, because they are looking for confidence. It affects the manager, because he’s looking for confidence. He doesn’t need the added pressure of this. There are always problems in your workplace, but if there’s a problem you sort it out behind closed doors, not publicly.”

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      #3
      The fundamental difference is that Wenger delivered almost instant domestic success which, as a club starved of it for so long, is what we desire more than anything else. More than any number of trips to the grandest stadiums of Europe, fingers on both hands or memorable evenings at Anfield when we become more than just a football team.

      You can argue over the merits and comparisons to Wenger but the fact remains that Wenger has a clear vision of how he wants his team to play. Rafa does not, his approach seems always to be focused on how to stop the opponent playing. Quite how that is the basis for long-term success, a footballing institution, is something I remain unconvinced about.

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        #4
        They have made such and god all mighty mess of things since coming on board. It really could not be any worse
        Anybody who criticizes Klopp ever is a James Blunt. Nov 2015
        #****CITY

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          #5
          Originally posted by bigfooty View Post
          The fundamental difference is that Wenger delivered almost instant domestic success which, as a club starved of it for so long, is what we desire more than anything else. More than any number of trips to the grandest stadiums of Europe, fingers on both hands or memorable evenings at Anfield when we become more than just a football team.

          You can argue over the merits and comparisons to Wenger but the fact remains that Wenger has a clear vision of how he wants his team to play. Rafa does not, his approach seems always to be focused on how to stop the opponent playing. Quite how that is the basis for long-term success, a footballing institution, is something I remain unconvinced about.
          That's your opinion but I think it's unfair. Wenger didn't win the league because he had the midas touch. He won it probably because the side he inherited didn't need to be overhauled significantly. And he won in his second season.

          Rafa has his ideas about how he should play the game. We should leave him do that. It's a blueprint, a long term commitment about how to come back to our glory years. He's the most astute tactician around, and just saying that his idea is just to 'stop opponents player' is flawed.

          We've started to develop our game and we're playing better attacking football this season. Wenger's teams play the way they do because they've been nurtured into it since the beginning, i.e a 12 year work and still ongoing.

          We can't sack every manager around with some poor results or based on judgments of some fans.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Nicey View Post
            They have made such and god all mighty mess of things since coming on board. It really could not be any worse
            I am fairly certain that these classless and clueless ****wits would find a way to further mess things up. I shudder at the prospect.

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              #7
              Originally posted by fredo View Post
              Rafa has his ideas about how he should play the game. We should leave him do that. It's a blueprint, a long term commitment about how to come back to our glory years. He's the most astute tactician around, and just saying that his idea is just to 'stop opponents player' is flawed.
              Meh, it's where we'll have to agree to disagree. It's become my belief under Rafa that the vast majority of games we setup with the position to stop teams first with the view to beating them because we have the players who can do that on their day.

              Gerrard has been our saviour so often under Rafa but I don't think that is down to any stroke of tactical genius, more the natural ability of the player.

              King Luis was not a force for good in our style of play as such, not one built on keeping hold of the ball, but he invariably was capable of producing moments of match-deciding skill.

              Now we have Torres who can almost assure you of a goal a game but how many of his goals have been sweeping team moves and how many of them have been down to his individual skill such as his pace to beat a man or his quality finishing. Just thinking the goals over in my head I'd say the majority fall into the latter category, but I've not sat down and analysed it.

              This is where I think Crouch is almost key to us. I think we try, or least used to try, to play more as a team with Crouch in the side because he is not very effective having balls hoofed up to him from 50 yards away. He needs to be involved with play with his smart distribution and he needs crosses coming into the box from moves that see the ball being worked down the flanks. The same is true of Kuyt and Voronin, the latter of who had his best outing against Besiktas when we scored a number of good TEAM goals.

              But these days to Rafa Crouch is a tool that he'll use when the opponent dictates or his fitness stats advocate it. Not part of any particular long-term strategy or style of play.

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                #8
                I would like to add I'm in no way supporting what the current owners have done. If the DIC bid is at all viable they should sell up and take Parry with them.

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                  #9
                  i have to say that martin samuel's piece is probably the best I have ever read by him.
                  "At a football club, there's a holy trinity - the players, the manager and the supporters. Directors don't come into it. They are only there to sign the cheques"

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                    #10
                    He's a fat cunt who thinks we're not a big club.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Tom View Post
                      He's a fat cunt who thinks we're not a big club.

                      that i'd also agree with. He seems to have got a handle on whats at stake if rafa leaves however
                      "At a football club, there's a holy trinity - the players, the manager and the supporters. Directors don't come into it. They are only there to sign the cheques"

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by bigfooty View Post
                        The fundamental difference is that Wenger delivered almost instant domestic success which, as a club starved of it for so long, is what we desire more than anything else. More than any number of trips to the grandest stadiums of Europe, fingers on both hands or memorable evenings at Anfield when we become more than just a football team.

                        You can argue over the merits and comparisons to Wenger but the fact remains that Wenger has a clear vision of how he wants his team to play. Rafa does not, his approach seems always to be focused on how to stop the opponent playing. Quite how that is the basis for long-term success, a footballing institution, is something I remain unconvinced about.
                        Surely Rafa being focused on stopping the opposition shows a clear vision?? to me a clear vision is consistently the same approach to the same situations, i.e. keeping things tight in the Prem then expanding later on to try to win the game or in the Champions League home games in the knock out stages we fly at teams for the first 20 minutes.
                        Just because we may not agree with it doesn't not make it a clear vision - it's just not your clear vision to how you think we should play which is fair enough.
                        I know we have drawn too many games this year but we have also dished out some of the most comprehensive performances I can remember during the bulk of my time as a supporter (I'm 32 by the way so realisticly 20 odd years)
                        I know we drew with Chelsea but that's as good a performance against one of the other 'big 3' as I can remember, Newcastle away, Derby at home, Besiktas etc etc. I know we could all list games we've underachieved but I'm a glass half full type of guy.
                        I honestly don't think we're far away, another striker or babel used up front more, width from wingers or full backs and we'll be right in the mix, that's the sad part of the Yanks ****ing it all up is that we are really close in my opinion.
                        The King was back for a short while. Long live The King.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by The Birdman View Post
                          Surely Rafa being focused on stopping the opposition shows a clear vision?? to me a clear vision is consistently the same approach to the same situations, i.e. keeping things tight in the Prem then expanding later on to try to win the game or in the Champions League home games in the knock out stages we fly at teams for the first 20 minutes.
                          Just because we may not agree with it doesn't not make it a clear vision - it's just not your clear vision to how you think we should play which is fair enough.
                          I know we have drawn too many games this year but we have also dished out some of the most comprehensive performances I can remember during the bulk of my time as a supporter (I'm 32 by the way so realisticly 20 odd years)
                          I know we drew with Chelsea but that's as good a performance against one of the other 'big 3' as I can remember, Newcastle away, Derby at home, Besiktas etc etc. I know we could all list games we've underachieved but I'm a glass half full type of guy.
                          I honestly don't think we're far away, another striker or babel used up front more, width from wingers or full backs and we'll be right in the mix, that's the sad part of the Yanks ****ing it all up is that we are really close in my opinion.

                          When exactly? Derby? Besiktas? Pompey? - All teams that were very poor on the day and didnt really show up to give us a game. I dont think there has been many comprehensive performances against decent opposition this season.

                          I agree that we are not far away from being a top side but i still have my doubts that rafa can lead us to a proper title challenge. I would certainly allow him another season though.
                          Fernando Torres

                          I dont just love him, I'm IN love with him

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Jazzmaster View Post
                            When exactly? Derby? Besiktas? Pompey? - All teams that were very poor on the day and didnt really show up to give us a game. I dont think there has been many comprehensive performances against decent opposition this season.

                            I agree that we are not far away from being a top side but i still have my doubts that rafa can lead us to a proper title challenge. I would certainly allow him another season though.
                            So all of our good performances are because the opposition were rubbish??
                            You could argue they 'didn't show up' because of how Rafa sets out the team and because of how well we played.
                            IMO you have to give Rafa until the end of his contract, then he would have had fair opportunity to mould his squad and to have the first few youngsters breaking in to the first team so everything will be more obvious as to where we are in relation to challenging for the league and in our youth development.
                            The King was back for a short while. Long live The King.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by bigfooty View Post
                              The fundamental difference is that Wenger delivered almost instant domestic success which, as a club starved of it for so long, is what we desire more than anything else. .
                              the 14 years prior to rafa's reign are not his fault and yet he has to shoulder the burden never the less- Arsenal had won the league in 91 and still had many of that team to call on when wenger arrived. rafa had a team that had limped to 4th in the league and had 1 genuine world class player to call on.

                              and all that aside, i bet arsenal's fans wouldn't mind a taste of our european glory.

                              i'd agree that sometimes/often rafa looks to not lose rather than go all out for the win, but generally speaking, with more players of the quality of gerrard and torres, that tactic would probably see us win more games.

                              don't forget that this approach has earned us our highest ever premier league points tally -plsu CL 2nd stage and FA Cup Final all in one season- so I would suggest there is some method to rafa's decisions.

                              of course, to get players of that quality either takes money or a lot of time for the talent to develop. sadly, time and money seem to be 2 commodities that rafa hasn't got much of
                              "At a football club, there's a holy trinity - the players, the manager and the supporters. Directors don't come into it. They are only there to sign the cheques"

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