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    Rtk - Yankees Go Home

    Taken form The Liverpool Way,

    The events of the past few days have proved what, deep down, we've known for a long time. These two jerry builders are not fit to be associated with our club. Whatever we might have thought about their motives, their personas, their politics, we allowed ourselves to believe that they had a gut sense of Liverpool's special ness, and a good sense of what is the minimum acceptable requirement here in terms of honour and tradition. In short, they gave a good impression of understanding, and cherishing The Liverpool Way.

    They said they would build a stadium fit for the world's most legendary football club.

    They said they would never contemplate securitising their loans against the club.

    They said they'd back our manager.

    They lied.

    We know this now

    We know it for an absolute fact.

    Our club is in the hands of disreputable men, men who, if they want success for Liverpool, want it solely in order to fatten up the calf for sale.

    The current situation is unworkable. Rafael Benitez, with his ingrained sense of honour, dignity and morality, has been publicly humiliated by Hicks and Gillett (and while Hicks is far and away the baddie of the piece, let's not underestimate the smiling, twinkling George's complicity in all this any more than he has underestimated our intelligence, our nous, and our own ingrained ability to rat out a wrong 'un when they wheedle their way in.) Rafa would have walked away by now but for one small thing the Americans will never 'get'. He loves it here. He loves the club, loves the fans, loves the city, and loves The Liverpool Way. More than anybody at the club, he is desperate to deliver for us that which we long for so badly.

    They will sack him in the summer. They have left themselves with no other option. If Hicks had come out on Sunday and said:

    "Fair do's Rafa, we were itchy on the trigger, you weren't conforming to the chart flow on our business plan, we wanted you out... but we realise now we got it wrong. Go buy Drenthe, Daniel Alves and Sergio Aguero, and while you're at it, tie up Mascherano long term and here's a new 5 year contract..."

    You'd possibly have given them a stay of execution. But he didn't. He gave the manager (and thus the fans, the club, the players) a vote of no confidence in front of, and to the delight of, the world's slavering media. He'll have to sack Rafa in the summer, just to keep face. Unless...

    Unless he's not there. And he's not too far from doing one, you know. This whole madcap scheme that George has dragged him into is far, far madder, far more expensive, and far less fun than he'd thought it'd be. He thought it was going to be like planting money seeds and picking dollar bills off the tree in a few years time. He thought Liverpool fans were going to be like Dallas Cowboys supporters, if a little louder - but nonetheless grateful for his patronage, and a little bit cowed by his enormous wealth. What he's found here is that it's difficult, it's cold, it's expensive - and the fans care a little too much about their team. They care so much that they answer back to the owners.

    That's what we have to do, comrades - answer back, loud and clear. We know the arguments, we know we're not Geordies, we know there's something very un-Liverpool about all this marching and protesting. But there's something very, very Scouse about the refusal to lie down and toe the party line, the refusal to swallow corporate ****e and the willingness to strike and fight back if we need to right a wrong.

    Our immediate target needs to be Foster Gillett. In the way that these flinty oligarchs always send their disappointing offspring away to the furthest, most hostile outposts of their empire to try and toughen them up, Foster has drawn the Liverpool straw. He's only pretending to live here. He spends his time in London, comes up for the Monday meeting, pads around Melwood then vapourises. He doesn't really want to be here. A sustained period of invective targeted at Foster on Monday night will unsettle him further. He'll be straight on the phone to his Dad saying:

    "Look what that idiot partner of yours has subjected me to. I'm out of here."

    No matter how rich the magnates or how close their partnership, filial loyalty and the need for a father to protect his offspring will come ahead of everything. The splinters we're hearing about in Hicks and Gillett's relationship will become a chasm, with the effect of accelerating their exit strategy.

    Be under no illusions. If DIC come in, they'll want to run it as a business, too. Whoever comes in next - and we could be bracing ourselves for a future where ownership changes hands every 5 or 10 years - will never have Liverpool's traditions running through them like we do. But there's a minimum acceptable standard in ownership too, and Hicks and Gillett have fallen badly short. It gives me no joy to recommend it, but we have to drive them out - starting with Foster on Monday night.

    These are critical times for Liverpool F.C. If Hicks stays, Rafa goes - it's that simple. And if Rafa goes, the empire he's building crumbles - no-one would even bet against Carra and Stevie Gerrard walking out on the shell that used to be LFC. All and any other reservations and complaints we've got about ticket allocations, ground moves, and horrid purple ties have to be put to one side. Any feeling about Rafa's rotation and tactics. All to one side. This is Us against Them. The Liverpool Way against The American Way. We've got run the *******s, end of story. Monday night, let them know. Yankees, Yankees **** off home..."

    THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT RAFA
    THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT FANS
    LIVERPOOL FOOTBALL CLUB
    IS IN THE WRONG HANDS

    Please use this thread for ideas for next Monday night. Catchy ditties that can be aired by all. Get the message acoss vocally to young Foster in the stands and his guardians back across the Atlantic. Post anything you've got below – and we'll sweep through the best of them over the weekend and get them back up, ready for everyone to air on Monday night. Tuesday night against Luton was just the start. We need to flush this cancer out of our club. We can all play out part. Fighting for The Liverpool Way. We want our club back.

    We'll fight for the boys in red,
    We'll fight the fight for Liverpool,
    The team that Shankly bred….

    #2
    Not sure this is "The Liverpool way" either.

    It was noticeable that the RTK efforts to get "the club's in the wrong hands" song going wasn't widely taken up by the rest of the Kop, whereas all efforts to sing Rafa's name was.

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      #3
      Originally posted by le2red View Post
      Not sure this is "The Liverpool way" either.
      ****ing sick of hearing this to be honest. Lets get taken for a ride because it's not the "Liverpool Way" to protest. It's a load of ****e.

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        #4
        There are various ways to protest though, I don't think followoing the Newcastle/Spurs route is the way to go personally. Also find it a bit hypocritical for RTK (or whoever) to want to protest about the Americans not doing things "The Liverpool way" by using methods which are also not "The Liverpool way".

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          #5
          Originally posted by Chris View Post
          ****ing sick of hearing this to be honest. Lets get taken for a ride because it's not the "Liverpool Way" to protest. It's a load of ****e.

          I agree.

          It's time to turn up the heat on these **** wits and if it means hurling abuse at the likes of Foster then so be it.

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            #6
            Originally posted by le2red View Post
            There are various ways to protest though, I don't think followoing the Newcastle/Spurs route is the way to go personally. Also find it a bit hypocritical for RTK (or whoever) to want to protest about the Americans not doing things "The Liverpool way" by using methods which are also not "The Liverpool way".
            Needs must, at least they're willing to get off their arses and try to help the club rather than whinging about whats the "Liverpool Way" on an internet forum

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              #7
              "Yankee's Go Home"

              Racists!

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                #8
                Originally posted by le2red View Post
                There are various ways to protest though, I don't think followoing the Newcastle/Spurs route is the way to go personally. Also find it a bit hypocritical for RTK (or whoever) to want to protest about the Americans not doing things "The Liverpool way" by using methods which are also not "The Liverpool way".
                They've quite clearly explained why they feel the need to do this, and accept it's not the normal 'Liverpool Way'.

                Be interested to know what the various 'other was to protest are'. As far as I'm concerned this is EXACTLY the type of thing the RTK should be encouraging - more power to them!!

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Chris View Post
                  Needs must, at least they're willing to get off their arses and try to help the club rather than whinging about whats the "Liverpool Way" on an internet forum
                  :whatever:

                  the "political" wing of the RTK is juvenile nonsense.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by le2red View Post
                    :whatever:

                    the "political" wing of the RTK is juvenile nonsense.
                    At least they care

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                      #11
                      Of course they do, and of course I don't.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by le2red View Post
                        Of course they do, and of course I don't.
                        Maybe you do but they're the ones willing to stand up for the club and attempt to do something, you're the one who's going to be whinging on an internet forum about us looking like Geordies. What do you think could be more productive?

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                          #13
                          It's quite easy to make a protest and remain dignified whilst doing so. For example the support at the ground for Rafa is quite clear in the message it sends to Hicks etc.

                          As has been mentioned in another thread, the fans thoughts on who owns the club will not have a great bearing on the power struggle being played out at the the moment. It's all about money and not much else. If Hicks thinks he can make a quick and healthy profit by selling up he will do. If he thinks he can make even more medium term he'll do that, even if he gets a bit of agg off the fan base. As we have seen at Utd the outrage over the Glazers evaporated when they coughed up some money for players and Utd won the league.

                          The only thing people really seem to be moaning about on here is that Rafa hasn't had a larger amount of money to spend in the transfer market, it's got fcuk all to do with who owns the club. If Hicks trurned round tomorrow and said here you go Rafa here's £50m to go and buy Kaka and there's another £50m to spend in the summer, all would be forgotten very quickly.

                          The problem is it doesn't look like Hicks has the money required to help us compete at the top table. Everyone is getting excited about DIC, not really because they will run Liverpool the way we used to be run, but because they have very deep pockets. All the criticism being levelled at them last year and their 7 year exit strategy seems to have been forgotten in the stampede to get Hicks out of Liverpool.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by le2red View Post
                            It's quite easy to make a protest and remain dignified whilst doing so. For example the support at the ground for Rafa is quite clear in the message it sends to Hicks etc.

                            As has been mentioned in another thread, the fans thoughts on who owns the club will not have a great bearing on the power struggle being played out at the the moment. It's all about money and not much else. If Hicks thinks he can make a quick and healthy profit by selling up he will do. If he thinks he can make even more medium term he'll do that, even if he gets a bit of agg off the fan base. As we have seen at Utd the outrage over the Glazers evaporated when they coughed up some money for players and Utd won the league.

                            The only thing people really seem to be moaning about on here is that Rafa hasn't had a larger amount of money to spend in the transfer market, it's got fcuk all to do with who owns the club. If Hicks trurned round tomorrow and said here you go Rafa here's £50m to go and buy Kaka and there's another £50m to spend in the summer, all would be forgotten very quickly.

                            The problem is it doesn't look like Hicks has the money required to help us compete at the top table. Everyone is getting excited about DIC, not really because they will run Liverpool the way we used to be run, but because they have very deep pockets. All the criticism being levelled at them last year and their 7 year exit strategy seems to have been forgotten in the stampede to get Hicks out of Liverpool.
                            Sensible post
                            Fernando Torres

                            I dont just love him, I'm IN love with him

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                              #15
                              This is also in RAWK, if you are interested in doing something that doesn't take too much effort, please see my positive action post

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