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    #61
    Originally posted by bigfooty View Post
    I guess you grew up in the 90s because it seems like being the 4th or 5th best team in England is acceptable to you?
    it was a crazy thread to start

    you lot this and you lot that while he is great

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      #62
      Originally posted by R.P.McMurphy View Post
      I blame the American posters,oh and Parry,definitely Parry.
      I'm playing all the right notes. Not necessarily in the right order. I'll give you that, sunshine.

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        #63
        Originally posted by fredo View Post
        Kuyt had a good first half and created Yossi's goal. Had a poor second half but kept running and trying.
        i would never doubt that he keeps running and trying. that's why it's so hard for me to point out what i feel is a fairly obvious judgement on the lad as a player.

        the thing is, take any young lad out of the kop and get him as fit as a butcher's dog and he'd keep running and trying too. we need more than that.

        i can't recall much that he won, and most things he gave away, and he had a great chance in front of goal that, with his first touch, he turned into a half chance, and then wildly slashed at it to send it skying high and wide.

        crouch comes on for ten minutes and scores.

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          #64
          Originally posted by alunevans View Post
          Sorry mate I don't see it. I'm not being deliberately unkind. I thought he was appalling again. He works hard but I'd love to sit Rafa down in a closed discreet room and discover why the lad keeps getting selected. I don't think I'm alone.

          When I went to the toilet afterwards all anyone was talking about was Dirk Kuyt and how he can possibly be in the team ahead of Crouch or Babel.

          I'm told that Aldo went into a similar rant once Crouch had equalised too.

          I don't like pointing out that a hard working player is poor, but sadly he is, and he was poor tonight too. It may be that we have to agree to disagree on this as views on players can't really be changed via debate.
          Don't get me wrong, I thought he was poor post 30mins, but before that a combination of some decent touches and not being as awful as usual made him seem better than he was.

          How Babel doesn't get a start up front or failing that come on the second we need a goal is beyond me however.

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            #65
            Originally posted by alunevans View Post
            i would never doubt that he keeps running and trying. that's why it's so hard for me to point out what i feel is a fairly obvious judgement on the lad as a player.

            the thing is, take any young lad out of the kop and get him as fit as a butcher's dog and he'd keep running and trying too. we need more than that.

            i can't recall much that he won, and most things he gave away, and he had a great chance in front of goal that, with his first touch, he turned into a half chance, and then wildly slashed at it to send it skying high and wide.

            crouch comes on for ten minutes and scores.
            He had excellent touches in the first half and it was as if his confidence had come back. He was setting up moves and linking up with Torres and Yossi. The team petered out after 25 mins in the second half and Kuyt followed the trend.

            Sure we need better, but who would pay for a world class player as things stand ? Hicks ?

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              #66
              Originally posted by fredo View Post
              Kuyt had a good first half and created Yossi's goal. Had a poor second half but kept running and trying.
              As a huge Kuyt critic, I agree with Fredo. He was one of our better players in the 1st half but poor in the 2nd. I genuinely felt sorry for him when he miscontrolled the Stevie pass in the 2nd half and then spunked the shot high and wide.

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                #67
                Kuyt was good in the first half, he didn't really look like scoring himself but in a game where Nando struggled against a bruising defensive line Kuyt did work hard and created some chances, including the goal.

                The second half he went downhill and it culminated in his wasting of arguably our best chance but he was by no means the worst player on the pitch tonight.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by desertscouser View Post
                  As a huge Kuyt critic, I agree with Fredo. He was one of our better players in the 1st half but poor in the 2nd. I genuinely felt sorry for him when he miscontrolled the Stevie pass in the 2nd half and then spunked the shot high and wide.
                  Did you see Stevie's reaction?

                  Really doesn't rate him I reckon.
                  I hate Polanski

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by CharlieMansonsSquint View Post
                    Did you see Stevie's reaction?

                    Really doesn't rate him I reckon.
                    No I didn't see anything. I think Stevie was frustrated, a bit like when he was going for the top corner in injury time instead of crossing the ball in the penalty area.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Nicey View Post
                      Just had a pleasure of keeping up with things in the matchday thread as I have done in one shape or form for 5 years .... I can honestly say a large section of you make me sick ...

                      From Excellent play to sack everybody this is a joke was instantaneous, no taking into account how the goal came about, were we playing well no just everybody is ****, suddeny the yanks were not the problem it was Rafa... Kuyt who was outstanding first half suddenly was a donkey once again.

                      You lot are a joke ... have a word with yourselfs ... actually its probally too late .. same ****s who wrote us off in 2 european finals I bet Shocking ..

                      I'll take that draw, ok so we are out of the race .. we need to concentrate on europe, staying in the top 4 and the fa cup. Get some stability back in the club and bring in the final pieces of the puzzle

                      God that was shocking form you lot
                      Not me mate. I posted at half time and said we were ****e and got slagged off for it. It's about time the Rafa groupies all pulled their heads out of their arses and faced the truth. Kuyt is ****!!. End of. Aurelio is ****!!. End of. Voronin is ****!! End of. Benayoun isn't good enough. Pennant : 1 goal in 70 odd ****ing games. Kewell doesn't give a ****!! Crouch treated like ****. Two amateurish challenges which gave away two goals. Gerrard saying the off the field stuff is affecting their play. Bull****. Were our defenders thinking about the possible takeover as the crosses came in? Don't make me ****ing laugh.
                      Last edited by wavydavy; 22-01-08, 12:19 AM.
                      I have one word to offer - honesty. I couldn't be devious if I tried. Joe Fagan.

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                        #71
                        Originally posted by CharlieMansonsSquint View Post
                        Did you see Stevie's reaction?

                        Really doesn't rate him I reckon.
                        Yeah I saw it and honestly for the first time I felt sorry for Kuyt. Never have before. I think he's a very poor footballer but I just had an overwhelming feeling of sadness for the lad. I suppose it's been an emotional few days for us all.

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                          #72
                          Originally posted by fredo View Post
                          No I didn't see anything. I think Stevie was frustrated, a bit like when he was going for the top corner in injury time instead of crossing the ball in the penalty area.
                          I saw his reaction. It was similar to Hyppia's reaction a couple of weeks ago. If I was a betting man, Kuyt would be the last man picked in a 5 a side game. I really want him to be sold because things aren't going to get better for him and it would be best to revive his career elsewhere. He's clearly an amazing professional, somone who gives his all every game but we need better at LFC. Harsh but true.

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                            #73
                            Originally posted by bigfooty View Post
                            Kuyt was good in the first half, he didn't really look like scoring himself but in a game where Nando struggled against a bruising defensive line Kuyt did work hard and created some chances, including the goal.

                            The second half he went downhill and it culminated in his wasting of arguably our best chance but he was by no means the worst player on the pitch tonight.
                            An accurate assessment imo.

                            Originally posted by wavydavy View Post
                            Not me mate. I posted at half time and said we were ****e and got slagged off for it. It's aout time the Rafa groupies all pulled their heads out of their arses and favced the truth. Kuyt is ****!!. End of. Aurelio is ****!!. End of. Voronin is ****!! End of.
                            At half time? We played pretty well in the first half.

                            And no, its not end of. This is a discussion forum. Its highly constructive posts like that which end up with people just calling each other dickheads.
                            I could not dig, I dared not rob:
                            Therefore I lied to please the mob.
                            Now all my lies are proved untrue
                            And I must face the men I slew.
                            What tale shall serve me here among
                            Mine angry and defrauded young?

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                              #74
                              Originally posted by MrMichael View Post
                              An accurate assessment imo.



                              At half time? We played pretty well in the first half.

                              And no, its not end of. This is a discussion forum. Its highly constructive posts like that which end up with people just calling each other dickheads.
                              So who's gonna disagree?
                              I have one word to offer - honesty. I couldn't be devious if I tried. Joe Fagan.

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                                #75
                                Originally posted by MrMichael View Post
                                An accurate assessment imo.



                                At half time? We played pretty well in the first half.

                                And no, its not end of. This is a discussion forum. Its highly constructive posts like that which end up with people just calling each other dickheads.
                                Originally posted by wavydavy View Post
                                Not me mate. I posted at half time and said we were ****e and got slagged off for it. It's about time the Rafa groupies all pulled their heads out of their arses and faced the truth. Kuyt is ****!!. End of. Aurelio is ****!!. End of. Voronin is ****!! End of. Benayoun isn't good enough. Pennant : 1 goal in 70 odd ****ing games. Kewell doesn't give a ****!! Crouch treated like ****. Two amateurish challenges which gave away two goals. Gerrard saying the off the field stuff is affecting their play. Bull****. Were our defenders thinking about the possible takeover as the crosses came in? Don't make me ****ing laugh.

                                yeah, dickhead
                                Thomas Hicks Senior

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