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    #31
    Originally posted by Red Chilli View Post
    Behave AFII FFS



    Agger is better than Carra. Garay is also better than him IMO.
    Just believe and you never know what will happen.

    According to Benitez it's important not simply to go out to win but to go out prepared to win, which means players have to put in the same level of work on a daily basis. Anything else is unacceptable.

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      #32
      Context here.

      Its down to how you compare carragher stylewise.

      If you compare Carragher to Alan Hansen then he is overrated. If you compare Carragher to Ron Yeats then he is underrated.

      He is a defender. Full Stop. And one of the best ive ever seen at it. Add to his defensive skills the spirit, attitude and heart he plays with and there is nobody better.

      AFII Agger is not in a million years a better defender than Carragher, he is however much better on the ball. A perfect foil for carra.

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        #33
        I'm bemused as to why we went for Skrtl if Garay is (as he supposedly is) available for 10mil

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          #34
          Originally posted by AFII View Post


          Agger is better than Carra. Garay is also better than him IMO.
          Your opinion is distorted
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          (1995)
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            #35
            Originally posted by AFII View Post
            Carragher is an excellent defender but Agger is better than him BOLLOCKS. If we sign Garay then I wouldn't be surprised if Carra would be third choice but that would only because Garay is one of the best in the world In what way has he proven this you mad scando cunt??.

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              #36
              Originally posted by paulcooper4 View Post

              AFII Agger is not in a million years a better defender than Carragher, he is however much better on the ball. A perfect foil for carra.




              I don't think there are many better in the world than carra if ou're talking out and out defending

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                #37
                Originally posted by JohnDoe View Post
                Read the whole post before replying "**** off"

                Controversial thread of the day.

                Awesome all out defender, fantastic tackler and man marker. Plays out of skin and totally committed to this club. Should be first choice CB like he has been for a good few years and will continue to do so for many years more.

                However:

                The fact that he's vocal on the pitch doesn't make him the leader of our defence. He has been bellow par since Agger has been out. I'll go as far as saying that he is bellow par when Agger is out. Hyypia has been outshining him on a consistent basis.

                He's the worst CB out of the "top 4" clubs in terms of his passing and distribution, I'll go as far as saying that he's clueless at it. It causes us to lose possession more than we should and offering the opposition more chances to attack us. It's similar to the case of have the ability to make a great last ditch tackle but being positionally incompetent so it forces you to make too many of these tackles. Carragher is a great defender when we're under pressure, but he causes us to fall under pressure more often.

                Agger is our best CB by far. He's a great defender but he's also the exact opposite of Carragher in terms of his 'attacking' capabilities. He's comfortable on the ball and takes off a lot of pressure from our CM's, offering them the chance to start attacks further forward on the pitch and cutting the gap between the midfield and the front line. When Agger is on the pitch we enjoy longer periods of possession.
                Carragher makes the CM drop deeper to "help" him when he's got the ball. Without Agger and when facing a side who sit deep and put 10 men behind the ball, Carragher is a liability to our attacking game.

                The reason why Carragher hasn't featured in the England national team as often as he would have liked, is because there are CB's out there who are simply better.

                Go on and have a proper go at me now for spouting nonsense and blasphemy



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                Now **** Off








                Very Quickly









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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Nic83 View Post
                  I'm bemused as to why we went for Skrtl if Garay is (as he supposedly is) available for 10mil
                  The rumour is that Rafa still want Garay. Maybe he will play him on the right or use three central defenders if we sign him, who knows.
                  Just believe and you never know what will happen.

                  According to Benitez it's important not simply to go out to win but to go out prepared to win, which means players have to put in the same level of work on a daily basis. Anything else is unacceptable.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by AFII View Post
                    The rumour is that Rafa still want Garay. Maybe he will play him on the right or use three central defenders if we sign him, who knows.

                    Yeah but I meant with our lack of funds. And the fact we need a striker too.

                    No way we can sign 3

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Nic83 View Post
                      I'm bemused as to why we went for Skrtl if Garay is (as he supposedly is) available for 10mil
                      Could be cos rafa rates skittles as a better defender. Could be cos we couldnt afford the 10 mill. Could be cos Rafa thinks garay is ****. Could be cos we are in the process of signing garay also. Could be cos Garay didnt want to come. Could be cos his club said **** off.

                      Either way, who gives a ****, id rather concentrate on our players than other clubs.

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                        #41
                        you know what i never understand about carra and the hoof is that he's oringinally a Centre Midfielder. The lad knows how to pick out a pass and can do so under pressure no worries.

                        why the hoof jamie lad?

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by JohnDoe View Post
                          Read the whole post before replying "**** off"

                          Controversial thread of the day.

                          Awesome all out defender, fantastic tackler and man marker. Plays out of skin and totally committed to this club. Should be first choice CB like he has been for a good few years and will continue to do so for many years more.

                          However:

                          The fact that he's vocal on the pitch doesn't make him the leader of our defence. He has been bellow par since Agger has been out. I'll go as far as saying that he is bellow par when Agger is out. Hyypia has been outshining him on a consistent basis.

                          He's the worst CB out of the "top 4" clubs in terms of his passing and distribution, I'll go as far as saying that he's clueless at it. It causes us to lose possession more than we should and offering the opposition more chances to attack us. It's similar to the case of have the ability to make a great last ditch tackle but being positionally incompetent so it forces you to make too many of these tackles. Carragher is a great defender when we're under pressure, but he causes us to fall under pressure more often.

                          Agger is our best CB by far. He's a great defender but he's also the exact opposite of Carragher in terms of his 'attacking' capabilities. He's comfortable on the ball and takes off a lot of pressure from our CM's, offering them the chance to start attacks further forward on the pitch and cutting the gap between the midfield and the front line. When Agger is on the pitch we enjoy longer periods of possession.
                          Carragher makes the CM drop deeper to "help" him when he's got the ball. Without Agger and when facing a side who sit deep and put 10 men behind the ball, Carragher is a liability to our attacking game.

                          The reason why Carragher hasn't featured in the England national team as often as he would have liked, is because there are CB's out there who are simply better.

                          Go on and have a proper go at me now for spouting nonsense and blasphemy



                          I think you're going too far, especially with your comments about his positioning. Yes, he's not perfect and some other players might be better than him. He's pretty damned good though.

                          I look forward to reading your thread about Robbie Fowler - "Although everyone calls him God he isn't really a deity".

                          Originally posted by Red Chilli View Post
                          He's not over rated, no-one rates him on the ball.

                          As a pure defender he is UNDER RATED by some opposition fans.


                          Originally posted by barnes10 View Post
                          you know what i never understand about carra and the hoof is that he's oringinally a Centre Midfielder. The lad knows how to pick out a pass and can do so under pressure no worries.

                          why the hoof jamie lad?
                          I always thought he was poor in central midfield.
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                          Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



                          May the Lord bless this post.

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                            #43
                            So it's come to this... Having a go at Carragher...500 solid reliable heroic games

                            And you question his ability to play football.

                            Sad day.

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by JohnDoe View Post
                              Read the whole post before replying "**** off"

                              Controversial thread of the day.

                              Awesome all out defender, fantastic tackler and man marker. Plays out of skin and totally committed to this club. Should be first choice CB like he has been for a good few years and will continue to do so for many years more.

                              However:

                              The fact that he's vocal on the pitch doesn't make him the leader of our defence. He has been bellow par since Agger has been out. I'll go as far as saying that he is bellow par when Agger is out. Hyypia has been outshining him on a consistent basis.

                              He's the worst CB out of the "top 4" clubs in terms of his passing and distribution, I'll go as far as saying that he's clueless at it. It causes us to lose possession more than we should and offering the opposition more chances to attack us. It's similar to the case of have the ability to make a great last ditch tackle but being positionally incompetent so it forces you to make too many of these tackles. Carragher is a great defender when we're under pressure, but he causes us to fall under pressure more often.

                              Agger is our best CB by far. He's a great defender but he's also the exact opposite of Carragher in terms of his 'attacking' capabilities. He's comfortable on the ball and takes off a lot of pressure from our CM's, offering them the chance to start attacks further forward on the pitch and cutting the gap between the midfield and the front line. When Agger is on the pitch we enjoy longer periods of possession.
                              Carragher makes the CM drop deeper to "help" him when he's got the ball. Without Agger and when facing a side who sit deep and put 10 men behind the ball, Carragher is a liability to our attacking game.

                              The reason why Carragher hasn't featured in the England national team as often as he would have liked, is because there are CB's out there who are simply better.

                              Go on and have a proper go at me now for spouting nonsense and blasphemy




                              You're 100% right!

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
                                I look forward to reading your thread about Robbie Fowler - "Although everyone calls him God he isn't really a deity".
                                "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
                                -- William Blake

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