McManaman on Setanta - Stop Protesting!

[desertscouser]

No.

Do you mean protest in private?

[Guest]

Do you mean protest in private?

It could be done differently. Am not keen into washing our dirty linen in public, it's detrimental to the club.

[desertscouser]

It could be done differently. Am not keen into washing our dirty linen in public, it's detrimental to the club.

I'm not keen on it either but what's more detrimental to the club, the Yanks remaining as owners or protesting in public in the hope of heaping pressure on them to leave?

The situation as a whole is far from ideal and to be honest, this time last year I never imagined it to turn out as bad as it has done.

[CAD]

Private silent protest at Fredo's house... yes...quite...cya all there...

[cullinp]

Private silent protest at Fredo's house... yes...quite...cya all there...

Whilst I agree as do many other supporters that the current action were taking isn't the Liverpool way, the current situation we find ourselves in forces our hand. We have to take as higher profile public protest as we can and keep us on the front pages rather than the back until this cunt gets the picture we won't quit until he sells.

Once we've won then we again must return to the core values that make our club so special, and never again let the proud name of Liverpool Football Club be dragged through the sewer as it is at the present time.

I think that while not all fans agree to protesting, RTK & SOS have adhered to fellow supporters requests to not protest throughout the match and instead concentrate on supporting the team. They've done this, they now need the rest of you lot with you head in the sand to stand together and do whatever we can, no matter how small or insignificant, it's better and more productive that sittin at home waiting for the club to die!

[dom9]

No.

If you are going to protest about anything, you don't do it in private. You make your views known by disruptiing things, and generally being a pain in the arse.

[Fan65]

Does anyone else apart from me think that Macca is a cunt?

As the lads were protesting he's shelled them saying they shouldn't be protesting!

He said that the Yanks had took on the debt and put money on for the new ground? They've put £60 million to start the stadium that they've borrowed.

Prick.

No, he has a right to his own opinion without being verbally abused.

[Alex]

We should get on with the football. Leave all the politics aside FFS and let the players and manager get on with their job at hand. All of this is a serious distraction.

100% agree mate, i made the same point here a few weeks ago and was destroyed for it. Fed up with the politics. I had a conversation with an arsenal fan ;ast night about actual football. was brilliant npt talking to a brick wall. which is what it seems on here sometimes

[Lecter]

well if it isn't then why bother to protest? I think we should be very careful, all this abuse aimed their way will probably harden their resolve to do things their way or if they get so pissed off they could decide to teach us all a yankie lesson and sell off our few decent players almost out of spite.

Americans don't like to be made to look stupid (they do this well enough all by themselves), but in all honestly I doubt they are even aware we had a game today.

More than anything Americans like their reputations and public face to be untarnished

The demonstrations are hurting their public image, already they are fighting back with articles stateside to counteract any damage the demonstrations and negative publicity is causing

Heres one for a start

Star-Telegram.com: | 02/03/2008 | In defense of Hicks, as a soccer owner, he is not that bad

In defense of Hicks, as a soccer owner, he is not that bad
By JENNIFER FLOYD ENGEL
Star-Telegram staff writer

The Liverpool Reds won Saturday, convincingly actually, and fans still staged an angry and -- just guessing here -- probably drunken protest afterward.

They despise local whipping boy Thomas O. Hicks and, yes, since you are wondering, way more than angry Stars and Rangers fans. And they want him to sell, fly his butt back to Texas and exclusively screw with his local teams.

Nor is his co-owner, George Gillett, exactly Mr. Popular in spite of his best efforts to position himself as Glenda the Good Yank Owner.

Liverpool fans hate both of them with a passion equal to that of 15 angry Stars and Rangers fans. They are not simply mad as hell; they really are not going to take it any more.

What started as message-board rants about "money-grabbing Bush lovers" who they believe "promised their U.S. fans cash from Liverpool FC" has morphed into a campaign to have fans buy the team. They even have a Web site at Share Liverpool FC.

Just a quick point of interest: Anybody who actually believes Liverpool cash is being pumped into the Stars or Rangers needs to check the starting rotation and the Stars' scoring wings to be disabused of that theory.

They are not exactly listening. Nor does anybody here seem to be listening.

Of course, in local precincts, this cross-pond hatred of Hicks is somewhat predictably being spun forward as proof he is indeed the worst owner in the free world and needs to sell. And why exactly is everybody listening to a bunch of bloody idiots?

Because the truth is Hicks is not a bad soccer owner, not by a long shot, despite what is being circulated at home and abroad.

Did you know that Liverpool finished ahead of Arsenal last season, outspent it this off-season and is currently way behind it in the standings? Or that he is helping build Liverpool a new stadium?

It sounds like the Reds have a coach problem and possibly a player problem, with greedy owners coming in a distant third. If the Liverpool fans want to see a team where frugality is a problem, there are plenty of good seats available at The Ballpark in Arlington.

I say we buy them tickets.

They, by the way, have a name. They call themselves the Sons of Shankly. Bill Shankly is Liverpool's Tom Landry, from what I can tell, and they are rallying in his name.

They have this crazy idea that they are entitled to a winner. They are sick of -- and write this down, Coach Wade -- being told how good their team played in a loss. They are of the belief that a team with its history is judged by wins and losses, period. And they do not want to hear money talk from rich owners.

And if this is not enough to convince everybody a Texas branch is needed, the Sons of Shankly hold their meetings in bars. No, seriously, 300 people showed up to a local watering hole in Anfield this week to gripe about what was wrong and plan protests and figure out how to oust the Yanks.

And they did not have to put up with John Hart as GM, The Ho as an ace, or Ladislav Nagy as a scorer.

If anybody should be getting together at a bar, calling themselves the Sons of Gainey and Daughters of Fergie, it is the Stars' and Rangers' faithful.

But they won't, even though they have a right to be mad. The Liverpool fans will, and I'm not so sure they have the right. So all in favor of the Daughters of Fergie telling those Liverpool fans to get in line, say aye.

Aye.
[email protected]
Jennifer Floyd Engel, 817-390-7760


The more they are in the papers being rubbished / criticised the more it hurts them, it might be a flight of fantasy on my behalf but I think a lot of companies will now think twice about selling to Mr Hicks after this

[Alpha]

Liverpool Reds

*cringes*

[sonsofthedesert]

Lec it would be nice if any of that article was researched before written. That is a piss poor article and the person who wrote it should be ashamed.

[Kev_81]

I just emailed that bird a link about hicks involvement with corinthians, someone didn't do their research, he helped destroy them, but according to her he is a good 'soccer owner'

[Ron_Mexico]

Lec it would be nice if any of that article was researched before written. That is a piss poor article and the person who wrote it should be ashamed.

one of the worst articles i've ever read

she thinks she can write whatever she wants about liverpool because her readership don't know any better

nice opening comment about guessing the protest was drunken :whatever:

appalling piece of work from start to finish

[cullinp]

Disagree

No, he has a right to his own opinion without being verbally abused.

And you have your opinion to which are also entitled.

I feel strongly though is that he's a backstabbing ******* that deserves to be verbally abused for a number of things, not least his comments on Setanta yesterday. On here and RAWK there would seem to be an awful lot of people who agree with that line of thought.

Your not one of them? I respect your opinion.

[Assassin]

I just emailed that bird a link about hicks involvement with corinthians, someone didn't do their research, he helped destroy them, but according to her he is a good 'soccer owner'

I emailed he as well with some Hicks/Corinthians stuff. If she replies I post it on here