Question for those who dont want rafa gone...

[Sarb]

I think the Pako situation was something that Rafa could do nothing about. Based on Rafa's interview on LiverpoolTranslateds site, he was given no option.

Unlike everyone else I've always been able to see the sense in Rafa's substitutions. None of the ones on saturday suprised me I could see the rationale. I would agree however that he is not aggressive enough and that sometimes he should make changes at half time for example.

Tactics, I think he is almost always spot on, I don't think there is another manager in the world that gets more out of a team by selecting the best tactics.

I would disagree with the tactics bit and the way he sends his team out sometimes, but thats just an opinion

[El Jefecito]

Swap Carra with Reina then im happy

Good point, I agree with that. I forgot about Pepe.

[Sarb]

Swap Carra with Reina then im happy

Why not Carra? From what I've seen he's been trying to cover **** loads in defence. Can't blame him for being shattered towards the end of the games and making mistakes

[El Jefecito]

Why not Carra? From what I've seen he's been trying to cover **** loads in defence. Can't blame him for being shattered towards the end of the games and making mistakes

His distribution has been so poor that he is always giving the ball to the opposition and that has caused us to come under much more pressure than when we have Agger distributing.

He's also given away too many penalties.

[Craig_H]

Do you really think Mourinho would come to Liverpool and work under the yanks? Do you think any top manager would come to Liverpool and put his reputation on the line and work under owners who in the past have broken their word to their manager and tried to undermine him?Will a top manager want to work with meagre transfer funds? Not a chance in hell.

The yanks days are numbered, so that's academic IMO mate.

But in any case, that isnt yours (or other people's) only objection to Mourinho.

[the rev leeroy brown]

Why not Carra? From what I've seen he's been trying to cover **** loads in defence. Can't blame him for being shattered towards the end of the games and making mistakes

but you can blame him for just hoofing every ball into no man land up front. his distribution has been terrible this year. with sami beside him (another who likes to hoof long balls forward) our play from the back of the pitch has been ****e (except reina). we have badly missed agger...he likes to play his way through midfield. hopefully skrtel will have the same ideas on distribution as agger.

[El Jefecito]

The yanks days are numbered, so that's academic IMO mate.

But in any case, that isnt yours (or other people's) only objection to Mourinho.

List out those other objections and let's see if they are reasonable.

[stevie_gerrard_8]

Why not Carra? From what I've seen he's been trying to cover **** loads in defence. Can't blame him for being shattered towards the end of the games and making mistakes

Disagree with that. Recently its been Sami covering up Carra's mistakes

[Craig_H]

List out those other objections and let's see if they are reasonable.

I'm sure people are aware of their own objections to JM.

[El Jefecito]

I'm sure people are aware of their own objections to JM.

Maybe they are individually, but as a group I don't think we are. You seem to have the insight so list them out and lets determine which are valid and which aren't.

That's not asking a great deal is it?

[El Jefecito]

HOLY **** SOMETHING SENSIBLE'S BEEN WRITTEN!!!!!!

Thanks to you and sonofthedesert for the kind words, I can assure you though that this is the exception rather than the rule

[Craig_H]

Maybe they are individually, but as a group I don't think we are. You seem to have the insight so list them out and lets determine which are valid and which aren't.

That's not asking a great deal is it?

i'm not sure what the point is, as the common objections are no secret...but if you insist.

People have a problem with his attitude/personality - i can see why, but my POV is that he's employed to make the team successful, not to be my friend attending dinner at my house.

People have a problem with what they perceive to be a dull type of football - i think there's a misconception between dull football, and simply 'shutting up shop' once leading 2-0.


People think he only won stuff because of money - i can see the reason for that and it's partially true. But i also saw his ability to deeply instill enormous confidence, belief and team spirit into his players. They played for each other and for him, they displayed incredible unity and his drive and supreme confidence transmits itself into his players. They have the confidence to be the best and it brings out the best in their ability.

People question his tactical nous - the strongest objection, for me. And yes, it's a concern. People rightly point to Rafa outsmarting him in the CL. My answer to this though is two-fold. Firstly, when it came to league games, he came out on top against Rafa. So he's obviously able to compete in that department. Second, he wouldnt often be coming up against tacticians of that calibre, when it comes to the weekly trials of the PL.


I think they're the most obvious ones which spring to mind and i've offered my honest response to each one.

[El Jefecito]

i'm not sure what the point is, as the common objections are no secret...but if you insist.

People have a problem with his attitude/personality.

People have a problem with what they perceive to be a dull type of football.

People think he only won stuff because of money.

People question his tactical nous.

I think they're the most obvious ones which spring to mind.

I think all of those are true. The real question then is would you accept all of those in order to win the EPL. Personally, I would. Especially, on the last, we know that Rafa is far superior in that regard, but maybe JM would trump that by being able to get more out of the players.

Is that where you are coming from?

[Craig_H]

I think all of those are true. The real question then is would you accept all of those in order to win the EPL. Personally, I would. Especially, on the last, we know that Rafa is far superior in that regard, but maybe JM would trump that by being able to get more out of the players.

Is that where you are coming from?

Sorry mate, i made my original post and then realised it'd make sense to put my own responses to each point, so i've edited.

In answer to your first question, i'd happily accept all of those to win the title.

Just to add, i think the stuff about him being a 'cnut' is exaggerated. I dont think he's about to win the Nobel Peace prize, dont get me wrong. But virtually every single person working within football, who has commented on Mourinho after having direct contact with him, has had nothing but praise for him, many describing him and respectful, a gentleman and someone they admired.

I think the 'special one' arrogant nonsense is part of the game he plays with the press. He doesnt trust the press (cant blame him) and therefore doesnt like to reveal his true self to them. Again, i dont blame him for this.

[El Jefecito]

Sorry mate, i made my original post and then realised it'd make sense to put my own responses to each point, so i've edited.

And I still agree The question still stands, for a wider audience than you and I, are you willing to accept those shortcomings if it will win us the EPL?