I sense....

[Craig_H]

Our first 12 games interspersed with games like the Inter game with the possibility that Hicks will have 65% and DIC 35%(They will finance transfers-----rumour)Plus the spending of the Yanks in the 1st yr.........Torres,Babel,Lucas,Benny,numourous kids(Dalle Valle being the most important one).The yanks took us forward more in one yr than Morres ever did.(Rafa takes some credit in that)

Nope. Still cloud cuckoo land.

[Johnny]

Nope. Still cloud cuckoo land.

like anybody smart enough not sucked into your rehtoric.
Better than "THE END IS Nigh LAND",i`ll still be able to continue my life as normal

[badpiggy]

I believe it.

If the fans don't belive we'll we win the league then the players and manager defnietly won't.
If we can beat teams like Inter, Juventus and AC then why can't we beat Utd, Chelsea and Arsenal in the league.

It's a mental barrier we as club need to get through. Not just the players but all the fans aswell.

aside from totally disagreeing in principle, chelsea proved that this wasn't the case - they won 2 in a row in a stadium half-filled with old nazis, KGB agents and local property developers. don't think "the shed" played much part in it.

[Gazmo1]

Year in, year out...

I bet you felt it after we spanked derby 6-0 too.

Tried that one for nearly 20 years mate.

Cant see why that's anything more than wishful thinking mate. We'd have said the same 10 years ago. And at other points since 1990.

Problem is slinky, it's not a choice thing. Belief isnt something you can choose. You can tell yourself you believe we'll win the title but if you dont actually believe it, it cant be helped

Because i've seen nothing to suggest it will be 'our year'.

I want to help you DJS. Take all of thew knives out of the drawer and throw them out of the window. Then step back from the window and tell me about a time when you were happy. It might be a family occasion or a sporting event that brought happiness to you....... and then relax, sleep.

Nope. Still cloud cuckoo land.

[bobbyfallon]

i think DJS is being fairly realistic to be fair. we are not playing very exciting football at times are a long way off the top. fair enuf saying IF we can turn the draws into wins we would have more points bla bla bla - if my auntie had a cock she'd be my uncle.

much as i would love to take the title home nxt year there are massive changes needed, a serious investment also needed on 3-4 top class players.

without this we can forget about winning it. i would settle for being still in the mix by march and in two years go for it.

rafa in charge?? lets give him another year anyways with money for his first choice targets and decide then.

[Vermilion]

i think DJS is being fairly realistic to be fair. we are not playing very exciting football at times are a long way off the top. fair enuf saying IF we can turn the draws into wins we would have more points bla bla bla - if my auntie had a cock she'd be my uncle.

much as i would love to take the title home nxt year there are massive changes needed, a serious investment also needed on 3-4 top class players.

without this we can forget about winning it. i would settle for being still in the mix by march and in two years go for it.

rafa in charge?? lets give him another year anyways with money for his first choice targets and decide then.

Aunty with a cock your uncle, i don't think, Surely she would still be your Aunty, just an Aunty with a cock.

[nbryan1764]

Because i've seen nothing to suggest it will be 'our year'.

do you think Arsenal fans did this time last year?

[Van Halen]

that the good times are just around the corner. I think next year will be our year. We'll be playing some beautiful football and the big Red machine will be destroying everything in it's path, home and away with Rafa in charge!

No harm in being an optimist it certainly makes life easier! I agree as long as we have a clearout: The following need to go:

1. Riise
2. Kewell
3. Kuyt
4. Intandje

Replace them with quality and you may be right!

[Gazmo1]

I believe, Rafa made Jimmy Traore a champions league winner.

Nobody saw that coming!

[Craig_H]

i think DJS is being fairly realistic to be fair. we are not playing very exciting football at times are a long way off the top. fair enuf saying IF we can turn the draws into wins we would have more points bla bla bla - if my auntie had a cock she'd be my uncle.

much as i would love to take the title home nxt year there are massive changes needed, a serious investment also needed on 3-4 top class players.

without this we can forget about winning it. i would settle for being still in the mix by march and in two years go for it.

rafa in charge?? lets give him another year anyways with money for his first choice targets and decide then.

Thank you. People seem to think i dont WANT to believe that we'll win the title, but it's not about what you want. Without a total overhaul and a spend of about £60m, i just cant see us turning around what's gonna be a 25-30 point gap. It's unrealistic.

And gizmo, i'm perfectly happy thanks, i just have a sense of reality.

[Craig_H]

do you think Arsenal fans did this time last year?

Probably not no. That doesnt automatically change reality though and suddenly make it our year. The arsenal thing will be the exception rather than the rule. Check how many times a side has won the title the season after finishing 4th...

[Craig_H]

No harm in being an optimist it certainly makes life easier! I agree as long as we have a clearout: The following need to go:

1. Riise
2. Kewell
3. Kuyt
4. Intandje

Replace them with quality and you may be right!

This is where i disagree. Being optimistic merely sets you up for major disappointment.

[Craig_H]

http://offlinehbpl.hbpl.co.uk/news/MAC/MarsBelieve.jpg

I believe, Rafa made Jimmy Traore a champions league winner.

Nobody saw that coming!

Who's Jimmy Traore?

[nbryan1764]

Probably not no. That doesnt automatically change reality though and suddenly make it our year. The arsenal thing will be the exception rather than the rule. Check how many times a side has won the title the season after finishing 4th...

nevertheless it proves that a team that finishes 4th CAN challenge the season after whether its unusual or not

[anfieldanfield]

that the good times are just around the corner. I think next year will be our year. We'll be playing some beautiful football and the big Red machine will be destroying everything in it's path, home and away with Rafa in charge!

If I had a penny....