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Paul.S
If you don’t have assets to generate income (not many do) then you’re going to have to rely on skills and hard work. Except the “problem” with globalisation is that you’ve now got to compete with billions of people in China, India, Eastern Europe and elsewhere.
Many of whom - let’s be honest - have been taking the whole “skills and hard work” thing WAY more seriously that lot of people in the UK have been, for quite a long time now.
People in the UK want rich country life styles, infrastructure and public services. But the UK isn’t really a rich country anymore. It’s becoming a middle income country attached to one VERY rich city - London.
We should be taxing value added, whether that be from capital or work. Taxing wealth is a bit of a red herring as you can only do that once at 100% for instance.
The real ******* in the litter is inheritance. Ban it and within a couple of generations things look a little more equal.
We also have to get over the attitude that 'governments are inefficient and 'I don't want to give my money when I know half of it will be wasted'.
Governments are inefficient, but so is any organisation charged with collecting and spending vast amounts of money - including Tesla and almost all charities.
Many rich people who object to tax prefer to give to charity (like they know what is best for society..) because they want to know which cause it is going to (i.e. not feckless working class people).
Charity is a moral good, but paying taxes is a moral obligation and whether it is wasted or spent on your favourite charity is beyond the point. Paying taxes is about moral & societal cohesion as much as it is about keeping the wheels turning. Everyone needs to be on the wheel.
It really pisses me off when I see millionaire business people say they are leaving the UK because the tax on their profits and wealth are too high.
They forget that paying for the education of the workforce, the welfare system that stops people from revolting, the military, the roads, the legal system, the fresh water system, the electricity complex, local government etc (and I could go on) are all things that allow people to be 'entrepeneurs' in this country long before they think of the taxes on their profits. Try doing the same thing in - I dunno - the DRC - (not that I particularly want to pick on them). I mean, try doing it in Italy, where legally it is almost impossible to sack people, or Germany where the unions are much more powerful or France where the unions are the government, or the US where the basic things listed above are often missing. etc..
TBH - Labour should have reversed the drop in NIC's from the Tories - Even back to 10% which would raise £10-12B and ring fence that just to repay debt which is one of the biggest drags on the public purse - nearly 5%
Rhian Brewster signs for Derby on a free after 9 goals in 119 games for Sheffield United in 5 years
The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.
We sold him for something like 23.5m and put in a 40m quid buy back option. Ahhh those buy back options were genius at the time......brad smith and Jordan ibe had one of them too ha ha
We sold him for something like 23.5m and put in a 40m quid buy back option. Ahhh those buy back options were genius at the time......brad smith and Jordan ibe had one of them too ha ha
Negotiation.
Club offer 10m.
We want 50m.
Club offer 12m.
We say he's worth 50m, if you can't afford him we'll take 30m if there is a buy back clause.
Club thinks if we want him back, he must be good. Deal!
Muahhh hahaha hahahaha.
If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?
Club offer 10m.
We want 50m.
Club offer 12m.
We say he's worth 50m, if you can't afford him we'll take 30m if there is a buy back clause.
Club thinks if we want him back, he must be good. Deal!
Muahhh hahaha hahahaha.
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