Rafa - I'm here to stay

[Craig_H]

err, where could they have gone to follow Mourihno then? His Portugese boudoir? Can't say that he has managed any more than keeping his wife happy since he left these shores so unless its Portugese orgy time nobody could have followed him

Follow him out of the club.

[Shaggy]

Ok, so if the current squad is much better, then the fact that it's struggling to finish 4th (when the squad he inherited finished 4th with 4 points to spare) seems to therefore suggest that rafa is getting it wrong.

Thank you.

Mate you seem to be totally ignoring the fact that we are chasing moving targets.

Our squad now would've challenged for the title 4 or 5 years ago. The obvious fact is all of our rivals are continually strengthening.

Our squad is a million miles better now than it was under Houllier. Surely you can see that?

[Craig_H]

Mate you seem to be totally ignoring the fact that we are chasing moving targets.

Our squad now would've challenged for the title 4 or 5 years ago. The obvious fact is all of our rivals are continually strengthening.

Our squad is a million miles better now than it was under Houllier. Surely you can see that?

Yes of course i see that. But it's achieving less. Somehow, that's not Rafa's fault - this is the bit i dont understand.

[Shaggy]

Of course the buck stops with Rafa but I don't understand why you're asking people if today's squad is any better than Houllier's? It obviously is. Miles and miles better.

[Shaggy]

Also how is it "achieving less"?

[Gazmo1]

@ this thread

[MrMichael]

OK. I'll say it again.

This "thread" is a great example of what is wrong with this forum at the moment.

Do you have any idea how off-putting this is to read.

Can we all try to post more than one line responses, and learn to use multiquote please, this isn't a chatbox, and some of us might like to hear a variety of opinions once in a while.

[Mattshark]

Also how is it "achieving less"?

I was wondering that.

[pezzzer]

I just want an answer - is the current squad much better than the one he inherited...just a yes or no will do.

err, yes

are best line up under houllier was maybe

Dudek

finnan
carra
hypia
riise

smicer
gerrard
hamman
kewell

heskey
owen

subs- biscan,cherou,henchoz,letallec,diouf

or

reina

finnan
carra
agger
aurelio

alonso
mascherano
gerrard
babbell

crouch
torres

subs-skrtal,hypia,benayoun,kyut,lucas

i think an obvious win for rafa there.

[Craig_H]

Also how is it "achieving less"?

Well it's turning 4th place into a fecking struggle.

[Craig_H]

err, yes

are best line up under houllier was maybe

Dudek

finnan
carra
hypia
riise

smicer
gerrard
hamman
kewell

heskey
owen

subs- biscan,cherou,henchoz,letallec,diouf

or

reina

finnan
carra
agger
aurelio

alonso
mascherano
gerrard
babbell

crouch
torres

subs-skrtal,hypia,benayoun,kyut,lucas

i think an obvious win for rafa there.

Hehe...yeah, an obvious win...he's doing less with a much better team...let's engrave the medal

[Craig_H]

OK. I'll say it again.

Is there a rule saying how much we have to include in a post now??

[Shaggy]

Well it's turning 4th place into a fecking struggle.

At this precise time of the season under Houllier, it was also a struggle.

[Craig_H]

At this precise time of the season under Houllier, it was also a struggle.

Cant remember whether that's true, but put it this way, i cant see us getting 4th place with 4 points to spare.

[Mattshark]

At this precise time of the season under Houllier, it was also a struggle.

A lot more of a struggle in a less competitive league. We can also realistically take 3rd, we are not exactly miles behind Chelsea.