Rafa - I'm here to stay

[Sarb]

Untrue....you and Bascombe are a couple of closet Mancs and you both want Rafa out

Would you say anyone who wants Rafa out is not a Liverpool fan?

[Shaggy]

The point is, we're no longer better than everton, city and villa. Why is this acceptable?

Who says? You?

[Sarb]

But we are not crap in the league, if we were, we would have lost more than 3 games.

15 points off top spot though

[Shaggy]

Ok

But you're the one that's not seeing the bigger picture really. If you look at the bigger picture you shouldn't just say we're good in the European Cup so it's ok. We're crap in the league and out of the other three competitions. Looking at the bigger picture we're not doing too well are we?

Doing well in the European Cup just masks the other problems

You say we're "crap" in the league. Three defeats says otherwise. I'd use a different word - certainly not crap but not great, granted - and that's the crux of the matter. *shrugs*

[Mattshark]

15 points off top spot though

Yes, but not because we are crap, but because we draw to often.

[Assassin]

Would you say anyone who wants Rafa out is not a Liverpool fan?

Not at all.

[Sarb]

Why is Bascombe a Manc?

[pezzzer]

Ok

But you're the one that's not seeing the bigger picture really. If you look at the bigger picture you shouldn't just say we're good in the European Cup so it's ok. We're crap in the league and out of the other three competitions. Looking at the bigger picture we're not doing too well are we?

Doing well in the European Cup just masks the other problems

dont you think though that the off the field debarcle is having just a teensy weensey effect on our performance on the pitch too

i bet its been fun in that dressing room with all that klinsman/owners stuff going on, great for team spirit and morale

[Mattshark]

Why is Bascombe a Manc?

Well he went and joined NOTW, thats pretty much as bad.

[Sarb]

Yes, but not because we are crap, but because we draw to often.

Because we havent been good enough to beat the likes of Bham, Spurs, Reading, West Ham etc

[Shaggy]

dont you think though that the off the field debarcle is having just a teensy weensey effect on our performance on the pitch too

i bet its been fun in that dressing room with all that klinsman/owners stuff going on, great for team spirit and morale

These sort of factors won't be considered - everything is black and white here, with no extenuating circumstances worthy of consideration. It's a waste of time.

[Sarb]

dont you think though that the off the field debarcle is having just a teensy weensey effect on our performance on the pitch too

i bet its been fun in that dressing room with all that klinsman/owners stuff going on, great for team spirit and morale

It most likely is.

But a lot of dropped points are due to stuff earlier in the season when the owner issues had not even kicked off

[Craig_H]

The irony is, current performance probably wont be enough to get us INTO the CL soon, so i wonder where the shining light will come from...

"Oh but we're good in the UEFA Cup"...

[pezzzer]

Who's saying anything disregarding them? The point is, we're no longer better than everton, city and villa. Why is this acceptable?

We can harp on about our precious CL all we like, if things dont improve majorly, we wont even be playing in it for future seasons...then what?

so on that basis then youd happily swap our squad for any of theres yes?

alonso/gerra/carragher/torres/masch/agger/babbel would walk in to any top team in the europe, please be serious.

[Shaggy]

The irony is, current performance probably wont be enough to get us INTO the CL soon, so i wonder where the shining light will come from...

"Oh but we're good in the UEFA Cup"...

This "irony" is based on nothing other than a load of ifs, buts and probablys.

We'll be in the CL next season.