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    #16
    Quaresma has 21 goals in 103 games for Porto.

    Joaquim has 8 in 57 for Valencia.

    Certainly not prolific, but then neither was Torres. Anyhow they would create more than they would score, plus Rafa would improve them 20%.
    "Its not about the long ball or the short ball, its about the right ball." Bob Paisley

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      #17
      Originally posted by Howard_lfc View Post
      We need another striker.
      I agree. We cannot say we will challenge for the EPL if we sh!t our pants every time Torres goes down after a tackle. Crouch, Kuyt and Voronin are NOT EPL-winning back-ups.

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        #18
        Originally posted by looprevil View Post
        Quaresma has 21 goals in 103 games for Porto.

        Joaquim has 8 in 57 for Valencia.

        Certainly not prolific, but then neither was Torres. Anyhow they would create more than they would score, plus Rafa would improve them 20%.
        not sure joaquim has the required energy levels for the premiership
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          #19
          Originally posted by Elvis View Post
          I agree. We cannot say we will challenge for the EPL if we sh!t our pants every time Torres goes down after a tackle. Crouch, Kuyt and Voronin are NOT EPL-winning back-ups.
          This was my origional point of the thread, plus the fact as we are only playing one central striker we need a backup who can play elsewhere in the team, like how rooney can play as a winger, as someone has already mentioned we have babel but I think we need one other whom is more proven if we intend to will the league next year.

          Do you think Totti would ever consider leaving Roma..... or is he their Carra?

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            #20
            Originally posted by Dirk07 View Post
            This was my origional point of the thread, plus the fact as we are only playing one central striker we need a backup who can play elsewhere in the team, like how rooney can play as a winger, as someone has already mentioned we have babel but I think we need one other whom is more proven if we intend to will the league next year.

            Do you think Totti would ever consider leaving Roma..... or is he their Carra?
            You are thinking of an Agbonglahor type?
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              #21
              [QUOTE=Dirk07;988975]kuyt and Gerrard in particular are exceptional for attacking players, QUOTE]

              Kuyt is not exceptional in this role, not even above average. When a quality attacking player takes his place in this formation there will be no looking back.

              "If Gerrard continues to play up front, leaving this lack of creativity and intelligence in Midfield, the season WILL be over by Xmas."

              I still don't think we'll finish in the top 4 this season."

              FatTony 24/08/09

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                #22
                People id be looking at are;

                Diego
                Mancini
                Lennon
                Iniesta (If Alonso went)
                Rafinha
                Johnson (City)
                Pandev
                Silva
                Wright Phillips

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by red g View Post
                  Players that are quite simply World Class

                  Reina
                  Agger
                  Masher
                  Gerrard
                  Torres

                  Players to win the premiership, quite simply brilliant the following....


                  Carra
                  Alonso
                  Babel ( he will be next year )


                  Squad players to win the premiership

                  skrtel ( early days signs are good though )
                  Aurelio
                  Arleboa
                  Hyppia
                  Benayoun
                  Lucas


                  Players who need to be at villa or newcastle

                  Kuyt
                  Riise
                  Crouch
                  Kewell
                  Pennant
                  Finnan ( age more than anything)

                  and a few youngsters coming through......
                  I agree with all of that, except Finnan. Squad player definitley.

                  "If Gerrard continues to play up front, leaving this lack of creativity and intelligence in Midfield, the season WILL be over by Xmas."

                  I still don't think we'll finish in the top 4 this season."

                  FatTony 24/08/09

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by SpeedyG View Post
                    You are thinking of an Agbonglahor type?
                    Thats a good call, certainly future wise. I would prefer someone more proven and adept at taking players on though.

                    We do though have 2 players already whom could fill this role, but they already have central positions (although gerard couldnt play upfront if required)

                    The ideal player for us would maybe be someone like Drogba and move Torres to a babel position on the right?

                    Torres and Gerard would absolutely love playing off someone like that (ability wise)

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                      #25
                      [QUOTE=FatTony;989198]
                      Originally posted by Dirk07 View Post
                      kuyt and Gerrard in particular are exceptional for attacking players, QUOTE]

                      Kuyt is not exceptional in this role, not even above average. When a quality attacking player takes his place in this formation there will be no looking back.
                      That was not my point, he is exceptional at closing down for an attacking player

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                        #26
                        [QUOTE=Dirk07;989210]
                        Originally posted by FatTony View Post

                        That was not my point, he is exceptional at closing down for an attacking player
                        Oh right, see what you mean now I've re-read it

                        "If Gerrard continues to play up front, leaving this lack of creativity and intelligence in Midfield, the season WILL be over by Xmas."

                        I still don't think we'll finish in the top 4 this season."

                        FatTony 24/08/09

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                          #27
                          [QUOTE=FatTony;989218]
                          Originally posted by Dirk07 View Post

                          Oh right, see what you mean now I've re-read it

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by SpeedyG View Post
                            We only have 3CMs for 2 positions now that we are playing 4231. We may need to bring in another or hope someone like Plessis can make the step up. It's quite ironic as 6 months ago we were overloaded in CM.


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                              #29
                              Originally posted by looprevil View Post
                              New full backs and a world class RW is all we need IMO.

                              Agreed

                              And a new striker...
                              No small toffees for feast tonight
                              Kopites party with tyrkish delight
                              José, Sir Alex... London press
                              All choking on sweet success
                              Money, not love, is your drive
                              But tell us...
                              Can you count to five?

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                                #30
                                ..............Reina.................
                                Arbeloa..carra.....Agger......?
                                ........Masha....Alonso.........
                                ?..........Gerrard..........Babel
                                .............Torres................

                                Im hoping we deffo get a Right attacking midfielder, a left back and a striker.
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