Who says it was Hicks who leaked the letter?
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From what people have posted on the DIC thread, it seems SSN were bigging this up as an announcement at 4pm.
That to me sounds official, although there are no quotes from anyone to back this up.
I'm with Parry on this one. He knows he has ****ed up. He knows he will have to fall on his sword at some point too. But I think if he goes, Hicks will have free reign, so he's making it his mission to to Hicks off first.Oh I don't know.
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Originally posted by Darkon View PostAnd that question could have been asked a dozen of times since december - why did hicks make it public? What to gain?Originally posted by -V- View PostI dont think Hicks intended for this to go public but somebody from within Liverpool clearly leaked it. The letters arrived at the club this morning and were leaked by the afternoonOriginally posted by StevieJ View PostWho says it was Hicks who leaked the letter?
I said I appreciate that Hick's DIDN'T make it public but he was bound to know that it would have made it to the public domain as everything else has done
At a football club there's a holy trinity- the players the manager and the supporters, Directors dont come into it, they are only there to sign the cheques " - Bill Shankly
If only
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What if Hicks goes means Rafa goes?Originally posted by dom9 View PostFrom what people have posted on the DIC thread, it seems SSN were bigging this up as an announcement at 4pm.
That to me sounds official, although there are no quotes from anyone to back this up.
I'm with Parry on this one. He knows he has ****ed up. He knows he will have to fall on his sword at some point too. But I think if he goes, Hicks will have free reign, so he's making it his mission to to Hicks off first.
Thats hard for me, if I am honest.Nah. He won't win the Prem. You can quote me on that. - Sarb24
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Well, I guess most fans have been unhappy with our commercial performance. And with Parry generally.Originally posted by -V- View PostTom Hicks has sent letters to Parry and other members of the board. The Letters have been leaked.
He states that he is unhappy with our commercial performance
SSN saying that their sources say that Benitez is also unhappy with Parry
Interesting that Rafa and Hicks now appear to be on the same side.
Not going to be a popular view perhaps, but maybe, just maybe, you might have something there.Originally posted by Philosophia View PostWith the risk of incurring a major firestorm, isn't this a pretty good development? Many of us have wanted this for some time (basically anybody who has tried to buy something on-line from the club store). Which leads me to...
Torres
Babel
Mascherano
Skertel
Several reserve/youth players
All bought in the past year. Is Hicks really that bad? He and Benitez played hardball with each other and now seem to be on the same page.
Although this latest power struggle is not 'the Liverpool way,' it's pretty clear that the Liverpool way has seen us fall behind over the past fifteen years. Maybe we are simply witnessing the birth pangs of a new era of success.
Originally posted by -V- View PostI dont think Hicks intended for this to go public but somebody from within Liverpool clearly leaked it. The letters arrived at the club this morning and were leaked by the afternoon
I could not dig, I dared not rob:
Therefore I lied to please the mob.
Now all my lies are proved untrue
And I must face the men I slew.
What tale shall serve me here among
Mine angry and defrauded young?
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I do.Originally posted by StevieJ View PostWho says it was Hicks who leaked the letter?
It's well known that Hicks has been in contact via E-Mail with fans of the club. No doubt some of them moaned on about the way Parry has dealt with things. A quick tour of any Liverpool website would reveal the thoughts of Liverpool fans on Parry. Something along the lines of:
Takes to long on transfers
Let the club slip behind Man Utd on a commercial sense
Problems with the club on-line store
These problems are all addressed in the club letter. And we all knew that Rafa was not happy with Parry. It was one of the reasons that Rafa nearly got replaced with Klinsmann. Parry took to long on deals, so Rafa negotiated deals and was then told to concentrate on trainng and coaching his team.
Hicks also refers to this in the letter, but of course fails to mention he tried to get rid of Rafa along with Gillet.
Hicks saw this as a two way gain. Gets rid of a vote on the board and brings in his own man - Ian Ayre. Also gets the fans on his side by doing what they have all asked for.
At the end of the day I want Parry gone. But I want Hicks gone first.
KEEP PARRY!Forwards.......
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Hicks and Rafa all the way. I'm sorry but this joint-ownership thing has been a joke from day one. Hicks has done an extremely poor job of his PR, especially in the autumn, but what has Gilette done? Anything? He was nowhere to be seen or heard from at any point. I have extreme doubts as to whether him selling out to DIC would improve the situation in the slightest. So what if Hicks forces Parry, and Gilette out, takes 100% control and gives Rafa a new contract. For Rafa to be in what appears to be his corner on this, he must have had assurances about (a) his future, and (b) spending on players. Perhaps after the "misunderstanding" a few months back the communication between the 2 has improved significantly.Originally posted by Skillz View PostWhat if Hicks goes means Rafa goes?
Thats hard for me, if I am honest.
Hicks can then sell to DIC in his own time, and in the meantime we get a bit of needed stability and single leadership. At least we'd know what we were dealing with then.I could not dig, I dared not rob:
Therefore I lied to please the mob.
Now all my lies are proved untrue
And I must face the men I slew.
What tale shall serve me here among
Mine angry and defrauded young?
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How are you so sure about what is in the letter mate - not disagreeing with anything you say here but curious as to how you know the exact contents of the metterOriginally posted by DannyMan2006 View PostI do.
It's well known that Hicks has been in contact via E-Mail with fans of the club. No doubt some of them moaned on about the way Parry has dealt with things. A quick tour of any Liverpool website would reveal the thoughts of Liverpool fans on Parry. Something along the lines of:
Takes to long on transfers
Let the club slip behind Man Utd on a commercial sense
Problems with the club on-line store
These problems are all addressed in the club letter. And we all knew that Rafa was not happy with Parry. It was one of the reasons that Rafa nearly got replaced with Klinsmann. Parry took to long on deals, so Rafa negotiated deals and was then told to concentrate on trainng and coaching his team.
Hicks also refers to this in the letter, but of course fails to mention he tried to get rid of Rafa along with Gillet.
Hicks saw this as a two way gain. Gets rid of a vote on the board and brings in his own man - Ian Ayre. Also gets the fans on his side by doing what they have all asked for.
At the end of the day I want Parry gone. But I want Hicks gone first.
KEEP PARRY!
At a football club there's a holy trinity- the players the manager and the supporters, Directors dont come into it, they are only there to sign the cheques " - Bill Shankly
If only
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Originally posted by MrMichael View PostHicks and Rafa all the way. I'm sorry but this joint-ownership thing has been a joke from day one. Hicks has done an extremely poor job of his PR, especially in the autumn, but what has Gilette done? Anything? He was nowhere to be seen or heard from at any point. I have extreme doubts as to whether him selling out to DIC would improve the situation in the slightest. So what if Hicks forces Parry, and Gilette out, takes 100% control and gives Rafa a new contract. For Rafa to be in what appears to be his corner on this, he must have had assurances about (a) his future, and (b) spending on players. Perhaps after the "misunderstanding" a few months back the communication between the 2 has improved significantly.
Hicks can then sell to DIC in his own time, and in the meantime we get a bit of needed stability and single leadership. At least we'd know what we were dealing with then.
Me too but only because I trust Rafa to walk through the storm. He is the master of our destiny at the moment IMO, because he is focused on long term success for LFC.
Everyone else is trying to line their pockets.
Nah. He won't win the Prem. You can quote me on that. - Sarb24
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That's what Dan Rowan on Sky Sports News said was in it.Originally posted by homer1 View PostHow are you so sure about what is in the letter mate - not disagreeing with anything you say here but curious as to how you know the exact contents of the metter
Now I'm not normally one to believe everything on Sky, but it seems pretty obvious that he has either seen it or had the contents relayed to him.Forwards.......
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Sky claims to have been told what was in it, namely:Originally posted by homer1 View PostHow are you so sure about what is in the letter mate - not disagreeing with anything you say here but curious as to how you know the exact contents of the metter
- commercial ****ness
- Rafa thinks Parry is ****
- Poor treatment of fans
Not that those points are designed to appeal to the fans in a totally self serving and duplicitous way...
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So aren't you basically saying in that a large amount of the issues that have developed between the fans and Hicks are Parry's fault? If it wasn't for Parry's role in that nonsense, would all that have happened?Originally posted by DannyMan2006 View PostThese problems are all addressed in the club letter. And we all knew that Rafa was not happy with Parry. It was one of the reasons that Rafa nearly got replaced with Klinsmann. Parry took to long on deals, so Rafa negotiated deals and was then told to concentrate on trainng and coaching his team.
I'd rather have a club united under Hicks and Rafa than one in complete limbo with 2 owners who can't get on and a CEO whom the manager and one owner hate. Sounds like a disaster waiting to happen to me.I could not dig, I dared not rob:
Therefore I lied to please the mob.
Now all my lies are proved untrue
And I must face the men I slew.
What tale shall serve me here among
Mine angry and defrauded young?
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