Gerrard "is a diver"

[akjs123]

I think it would be easier for you to understand what I am saying if you watch this.

http://www.zshare.net/video/1060335843021512/

The thing is everybody has focussed on his right leg while they dont see the standing leg. From this angle, you can actually see that he is trying to lift his right leg up and he actually starts going down when Friedel goes through his standing leg

[Diego]

I think it would be easier for you to understand what I am saying if you watch this.

http://www.zshare.net/video/1060335843021512/

The thing is everybody has focussed on his right leg while they dont see the standing leg. From this angle, you can actually see that he is trying to lift his right leg up and he actually starts going down when Friedel goes through his standing leg

no mate after viewing that again and again i am confident in my position, he starts to go down before there is contact, just look at his body in the second befor the contact he is already gone down. and also look at the left lef specifically when contact is made and see how ready it is for the contact, he hardly stands in it and you can clearly see that he has lost all his powein in his leg when contact is made so it does not trigger the downfall imo...

but thats just my opinion man

[Nicey]

Sorry but I have to say, that is bollocks. He dives! end of.

Yeah ok I know he does but I wont say it out loud

[Diego]

if you look at both of those pictures which are about the time friedel caught his second leg he can clearly see imo that gerrard has already gone down, his boy posturing indicates that...

[akjs123]

if you look at both of those pictures which are about the time friedel caught his second leg he can clearly see imo that gerrard has already gone down, his boy posturing indicates that...

Actually mate, judging from that posturing is wrong. I have uploaded another highlight from a different angle. If you look at it, you will see that Gerrard's right foot is going forward until it hits Friedel's knee after which instead of going forward it starts going right and hits him in the stomach. The end product is a frame which shows Gerrard in a diving posture. If his leg hadnt hit Friedel's knee and gone forward, Gerrard wouldnt look in a diving posture but would still be brought down when his other leg was taken out.

http://www.zshare.net/video/1060662558980d60/

You might argue that the position of his standing leg indicates he is diving. But if you look at the way he runs in both the highlights, almost immediately after landing his foot, it becomes like that. The only difference is that the other foot's direction was changed by Friedel.

[Resu]

Have to say I`M with Diego on this one. He clearly tried to get a penalty, but failed. Friedel pulled out of the challenge as much as he could, but SG had decided to go for the penalty.

[akjs123]

Have to say I`M with Diego on this one. He clearly tried to get a penalty, but failed. Friedel pulled out of the challenge as much as he could, but SG had decided to go for the penalty.

That is incorrect mate. Friedel went through Gerrard and ended up about a couple of meters on the other side from the point of contact. Whether Gerrard wanted or not, he was going to be brought down by Friedel in any case.

The "trailing leg" is a myth. What I want to know is how can a running man have a trailing leg. Gerrard was running so he has to take is right leg forward doesnt he.

[fred_plasticine]

That is incorrect mate. Friedel went through Gerrard and ended up about a couple of meters on the other side from the point of contact. Whether Gerrard wanted or not, he was going to be brought down by Friedel in any case.

The "trailing leg" is a myth. What I want to know is how can a running man have a trailing leg. Gerrard was running so he has to take is right leg forward doesnt he.

that's clutching at straws really.
if it wasn't gerrard but say drogba you'd be on his back... it's pathetic really that people defend his actions because they're not acceptable.

[Shaggy]

He threw his right leg out to ensure contact. It was and is obvious.

[akjs123]

that's clutching at straws really.
if it wasn't gerrard but say drogba you'd be on his back... it's pathetic really that people defend his actions because they're not acceptable.

Mate, I am not denying that Gerrard has a habit of going down easily in the box. But I dont think it was in this case.

[akjs123]

He threw his right leg out to ensure contact. It was and is obvious.

Sorry mate but that is wrong. Have a look. How far is his right leg from his standing leg. Is he supposed to stop his run just because Friedel is in the way. And as I have said previously, he didnt need to do that to "ensure" contact. Because the speed at which Friedel was coming, there is no doubt that Gerrard would have been brought down, contact with right leg or not.





See where Friedel is when Gerrard hits the ground.

[Shaggy]

Sorry mate but that is wrong. Have a look. How far is his right leg from his standing leg. Is he supposed to stop his run just because Friedel is in the way. And as I have said previously, he didnt need to do that to "ensure" contact. Because the speed at which Friedel was coming, there is no doubt that Gerrard would have been brought down, contact with right leg or not.

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/4527/gerrardfw9.jpg

I think that picture is somewhat misleading, as stills tend to be as far as football is concerned.

The only fair way to judge it, IMO, is to watch the incident in full and in its proper context, rather than just one split second image – and Gerrard clearly throws his leg out to ensure contact.

Still…I’m not that arsed. I just wish he’d stop bringing all this negative attention on himself.

[akjs123]

I think that picture is somewhat misleading, as stills tend to be as far as football is concerned.

The only fair way to judge it, IMO, is to watch the incident in full and in its proper context, rather than just one split second image – and Gerrard clearly throws his leg out to ensure contact.

Still…I’m not that arsed. I just wish he’d stop bringing all this negative attention on himself.

I was debating this with Diego on the previous page of the thread and I posted this video http://www.zshare.net/video/1060662558980d60/ .
This shows what happened from the angle from which the photo was taken.
But I doubt you are that arsed

[Zapater]

Sorry mate but that is wrong. Have a look. How far is his right leg from his standing leg. Is he supposed to stop his run just because Friedel is in the way. And as I have said previously, he didnt need to do that to "ensure" contact. Because the speed at which Friedel was coming, there is no doubt that Gerrard would have been brought down, contact with right leg or not.

Seriously with that kind of excuse you're starting to sound like what Man U fans sound like when they defend Ronaldo

[The Birdman]

What a surprise, I thought we had gone too long without another thread bashing our skipper.
**** me, more to the point name me 1 player, that's all 1 player who doesn't go down when they feel contact, 1 player who stays on his feet 100% of the time even when it's to the detriment of his team.













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