Originally posted by spy
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I think others got off their backsides too to be fair, but took a back seat to allow this one to be in effect one voice.
But how do you contact them? There's no option on their website. And the postal application form isn't even working on there now.
It needs to be made a priority that they allow others to join, otherwise perhaps it would be better if, as you suggest, another fans group was set up. But why? All it needs is for them to find a way to allow others to join, and a way of allowing others to vote. If they can't do that, then that's no problem, but they then need to describe themselves for what they are.
If they can't take money, they need to open membership up as something that is free of charge for an interim period. How many people on here have actually joined?
At the moment, do they have a majority of members who are season ticket holders? Are there any overseas fans? Are there any overseas fans who get to occasional games but haven't been able to join? What about supporters who don't use forums? How many people on here wanted to join but couldn't?
What can I do to make them aware of any concerns? Their website has no facility.
Who do they represent? When was the last time they actually checked? When was the last time they allowed someone to speak out in a slightly different way?
It sounds like I don't like them and that's not the case. But my worry at the start would be they could turn into something akin to Arthur Scargill against Margaret Thatcher, SOS against Hicks, and they have. If Hicks takes over they've no way of getting anything out of him with their current attitude. When he was busy with his Sky offensive they should have been arranging a meeting with him, on the same terms as they've had with DIC.
And now they're all cosy with DIC, getting all kinds of secret little sweeteners to keep them on side. And I don't mean personal sweeteners I mean promises about what DIC will do if they win.
The promises DIC are making to them don't need to be kept. Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but DIC would under current circumstances be able to discredit SOS when they got in and instead help another version, a more inclusive but less militant version, get into power in their place. One that allows anyone to join, doesn't favour only locals, doesn't allow the feelings of a few to be automatically considered the feelings of all.
They need to start going back to their thoughts from back at the start, otherwise they'll be another RTK and that would be a disaster, because I can't see a union that does represent us all getting a chance to take off so easily.
I can't think of an excuse now as to why they've not opened their membership up to all fans.
But how do you contact them? There's no option on their website. And the postal application form isn't even working on there now.
It needs to be made a priority that they allow others to join, otherwise perhaps it would be better if, as you suggest, another fans group was set up. But why? All it needs is for them to find a way to allow others to join, and a way of allowing others to vote. If they can't do that, then that's no problem, but they then need to describe themselves for what they are.
If they can't take money, they need to open membership up as something that is free of charge for an interim period. How many people on here have actually joined?
At the moment, do they have a majority of members who are season ticket holders? Are there any overseas fans? Are there any overseas fans who get to occasional games but haven't been able to join? What about supporters who don't use forums? How many people on here wanted to join but couldn't?
What can I do to make them aware of any concerns? Their website has no facility.
Who do they represent? When was the last time they actually checked? When was the last time they allowed someone to speak out in a slightly different way?
It sounds like I don't like them and that's not the case. But my worry at the start would be they could turn into something akin to Arthur Scargill against Margaret Thatcher, SOS against Hicks, and they have. If Hicks takes over they've no way of getting anything out of him with their current attitude. When he was busy with his Sky offensive they should have been arranging a meeting with him, on the same terms as they've had with DIC.
And now they're all cosy with DIC, getting all kinds of secret little sweeteners to keep them on side. And I don't mean personal sweeteners I mean promises about what DIC will do if they win.
The promises DIC are making to them don't need to be kept. Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but DIC would under current circumstances be able to discredit SOS when they got in and instead help another version, a more inclusive but less militant version, get into power in their place. One that allows anyone to join, doesn't favour only locals, doesn't allow the feelings of a few to be automatically considered the feelings of all.
They need to start going back to their thoughts from back at the start, otherwise they'll be another RTK and that would be a disaster, because I can't see a union that does represent us all getting a chance to take off so easily.
I can't think of an excuse now as to why they've not opened their membership up to all fans.
i second that. some very good points.
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